reply to post by Surfrat
The DHS and police forces of today would by the founding fathers have been considered a standing army* and who are they Standing against? Look in the
mirror if you are not in their uniform or a gov worker then you are their enemy.
The Constitution prohibits a standing army- even though the government changes it's name to "Police, DHS, ATF. etc, etc.."
“No State shall, without the Consent of Congress … keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace…” The modern idea that armed(Tanks Guns,
tazers, pepper spray and an unlimited amount of backup- think these guys aren't spoiling for a fight?), armored, cops stalk among a disarmed or, at
best, minimally armed populace would have sickened the Founders. If they had imagined it they would have immediately abolish both police forces and
the laws stripping citizens of their right to defend themselves, or, as the State puts it, to “resist arrest.” and that can be as slight as
looking them in the eye.
The Founding Fathers feared a standing army. Police forces as we know them did not curse the world until after the civil war but the FF would have
seen it for what it had the potential to become, The FF dealt with British Army units patrolled such restless cities as Boston in the late 1760’s.
Among their duties were two that remain pillars of policing today 1- stealing for the State (the Redcoats infesting Boston sniffed out smuggled –
ie, untaxed – goods, just as cops today issue traffic tickets and other citations) and quelling resistance by arresting troublemakers and if you are
informed enough to know your rights or even worse inform others of what their rights are. then you are just such a troublemaker.
Remember this oath? You have heard it enough even if you haven't taken it yourself.
"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and
DOMESTIC; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders
of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."
The police force (Standing army) is a domestic enemy and as a threat to public safety they far, far, far exceed the likes of Tim McVey, the
Unibomber, batman killer, sandy hook etc.
You know why the police force doesn't keep or publish the number of people wounded or killed by interactions with the police? Because the numbers
are so damned high!
Here is what others had to say about standing armies.
When a government wishes to deprive its citizens of freedom, and reduce them to slavery, it generally makes use of a standing army." – Luther
"The objections which have been brought against a standing army, ... may also at last be brought against a standing government. The standing army is
only an arm of the standing government. The government itself, which is only the mode which the people have chosen to execute their will, is equally
liable to be abused and perverted before the people can act through it."H.D. Thoreau
To hammer my point home if the police were not patterned after an army then why do they adopt military rank? Sargent Lieutenant, Captain, Trooper?