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why keep it a secret if it's really going on ?
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The right engine burnt a fuel with very high sulfur content S of 5500 ppm. Higher than the specificaion limit of 3000 ppm, about 10 times larger than the average value of 420 ppm, and 32 times larger than the left engine (170) ppm.
6) a slight reduction in optical thickness of contrails after the first kilometer and earlier contrail evaporation
4.2.4 Thrust Augmentation via Sulfuric Acid Injection
In the case of the present system, a significant quantity of sulfuric acid will be stored on the aircraft and ejected into the atmosphere during flight. This liquid could be injected into the engine to provide additional thrust at high altitudes to combat thrust lapse. As discussed in the previous section elevated sulfur content is detrimental to engine component life, and consequently traditional liquid injection techniques (compressor inlet injection) would not be appropriate for this system. However, some thrust augmentation may be realizable by injecting the sulfuric acid downstream of the turbine, in a manner similar to a modern afterburner. By this approach, to achieve thrust increases the turbine exhaust gases must be hot enough to vaporize the sulfuric acid
Because moisture in the air is absorbed better by certain substances than others. Particularly substances like sulfur dioxide.
Oh, so you added that to the list. A typical "chemtrail" crowd tactic, move the goal posts.
I've seen you edit your posts when you were called out and corrected on the crap you post.
But that's not my fault you try to swallow more than you can chew and have too much on your plate.
Originally posted by MagicWand67
reply to post by Chadwickus
Then they constantly says
"Go fly a plane and collect a sample"
As if, , it were so simple. Knowing full well it's completely impossible to arrange a flight with the equipment needed on such short notice.
The numerous lies about predicting contrails when it is clearly an imperfect science that has so many flaws even NASA needs school kids to be spotters for them.
Any system to predict things that were wrong as often as the Appleman chart is would normally be rejected by science. Yet the persistent contrail crowd tries to treat it as the holy grail of weather anomalies.
I could go on and on about the tactics of lies and disinformation used by chemtrail deniers.
Pick any tactic on the disinformation checklist and they use them all.
Originally posted by Painfulhead
My introduction to the whole topic of Chemtrails came from watching “Don’t talk about the Weather”. I must say I thought it was crazy talk, yet that same day I myself noticed for the first time the same sky as was talked about in the film (You tube video). That night I called my brother, he is the sane voice I often turn to and he told me about ATS and prompted me to sign up. That date was February 24 2011.
I was feeling sick from the whole idea of the films premise. I was a very excited new member of ATS and jumped right on to a Chem thread and made a comment. In hind sight I wish I would have read a few of the older threads to better prepare myself for what was to come. Any member that has read these threads knows with out me saying that these are some of the hottest threads on ATS. I was totally overwhelmed by this experience and never imagined the kind and way that members would respond. The whole grabbing of little chunks of members post and responding with a cut and paste collage of nit picking was new to me. Spelling grammar and anything else used to instigate and flame members. I am a crap speller and a slow ass on the keyboard. So all of this threw me off and flew over my head. Embarrassed and kind of pissed I stopped posting for the most part right then. I never stopped visiting ATS daily and have read a good portion of most Chem treads since. I have heard both sides and digested the info as best I could.
All that being said there are still things about this topic that leave me swaying on the most uncomfortable of fence posts. Most of these thing I cant argue because there is little to no actual facts to back up these oddities. Most skeptics wont facts and this I totally understand.
Things that strike me as odd
I find that websites that debunk chemtrails have much more expensive looking web pages. Why is this odd? I don’t know for sure. Seems right that the people that would want to keep something like this quite would have more money at their disposal. Also seems right that grass roots whistle blowers wouldn’t have as much capital.
This might bring the heat but wouldn’t it be smart to head off any interest in the topic before people start to dig. My own story shows how effective this would be.
If the powers that be know something we don’t then keeping every thing running till the last second would be desirable. I have always felt that more important then money is knowledge, and who would have first bibs on knowledge? The rich. These crazies don’t think short term they think long term. If I was one I ,while no one was looking, would build underground bases for my bloodline, build an ark of all the seeds and animals. I would even store some seamen and eggs so a hundred years from now I could go back to a purer blood line from days gone by. (I know crazy talk)
Ever since that day in February I have watched and shook my fist at the sky. The sudden stop or sputter of the ’trail’. some jets leaving a trail and the next not. Two jets flying in close flight paths one with one with out. The crazy way that these trails fan out or apeir to cascade down like slow rain.
Wtf. All I can do is look at the floor and shrug my shoulders
I know that all of this add up to nothing and therefore is utter speculation.
I know that science has the upper hand when it come to FACTS
I know there are photos from years gone by of lingering contrails
I know I am inviting reticule and laughter
I know I will probable disappear again, maybe this time humiliated.
I can only hope to reemerge as a stead fast mind made up CHEMTRAIL DEBUNKER.
Thanks and yes I will take my medicine now……………… Painfulhead
Depending on the temperature and humidity at the altitude the contrail forms, they may be visible for only a few seconds or minutes, or may persist for hours and spread to be several miles wide