John Kerry says 190M to Egypt

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posted on Mar, 3 2013 @ 06:41 PM
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Originally posted by buster2010
190M is better than the billion we used to give them. Isn't it nice that we give money we don't have to other countries while people in our country goes without.


@ you guys thinking this money comes with no strings attached. The money gets paid back to US corps, read Odious Debts.




posted on Mar, 3 2013 @ 06:41 PM
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I thought they sold Oil there why do they need handouts?
All handouts need to stop.
We need to be doing like Syria is and toss this Government. Heck the US would support us then possibly they seem to like supporting takeovers.



posted on Mar, 3 2013 @ 06:45 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by buster2010

Can you show the people who supported Bush that held him accountable for anything?


Back in the day, we used to hold those who were in charge accountable. Something along the lines of, "The buck stops here."

Nowadays, the cool thing is to blame everyone else and to never take responsibility.

*Ahhh, the good ol' days


How far back exactly is that? Rome, or the Industrial Revolution. The Mad Hatters might disagree...

The blame game has stayed strong though... "We want worker rights! We don't want pollution!" ok.... "We don't want our jobs shipped to China! We want a strong middle class again." ok.... "We want uh, everything we lost but still protect the environment and ourselves!" uhhh....




Everyone fails to shout "We want the truth!" and then realize that loans and "aide" really aren't aiding anything to other countries but putting them into debt. Or that the jobs that have been lost poisoned everyone that worked them, or the people who lived in the areas of the factories producing.

The sad truth is our way of life is detrimental to the people on the bottom, and the environment.



posted on Mar, 3 2013 @ 06:47 PM
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Originally posted by Connman
I thought they sold Oil there why do they need handouts?
All handouts need to stop.
We need to be doing like Syria is and toss this Government. Heck the US would support us then possibly they seem to like supporting takeovers.


Are the handouts? Seem like bribes to me...



Cairo (CNN) -- Calling it a "good-faith effort" to help the Egyptian people, U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry released $250 million in economic aid Sunday, with a pledge of more if President Mohamed Morsy implements economic and political reforms.


www.cnn.com...



posted on Mar, 3 2013 @ 07:27 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by Kali74
 





Ask your GOP buddies if they want to stop foreign aid to Israel. And then do a little research on what foreign aid buys us.


What is really hilarious is when people bring up Isreal but since this country gives aid to over 150 countries in the world the only one who shouldn't get it is Isreal.

But the topic was Egypt.

Being the evil Republican in the thread, and other threads I have stated ending all foreign aid to everyone.




Australia gets no financial assistance from American Taxpayers?
Man that sucks. I thought we were Friends




edit on 3-3-2013 by Pedro4077 because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 3 2013 @ 08:30 PM
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The US will make that $250million back in no time!
A condition of the aid is to agree to a $4.8billion dollar loan from the IMF



Mr. Kerry said the aid decision reflected Egypt’s “extreme needs” and Mr. Morsi’s assurance that Egypt would reach an agreement with the I.M.F. after more than a year of talks over a $4.8 billion loan packag


www.nytimes.com...

also interesting is that the US gives Egypt Military aid of $1.3 billion per year

www.reuters.com...



posted on Mar, 3 2013 @ 08:52 PM
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It's a strategic investment for the upcoming war, it's all too good to be true. It's buying allies for the upcoming wwIII.

Tell me this is not perpetuated for the ultimate NWO agenda.

Peace



posted on Mar, 3 2013 @ 08:53 PM
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$190m is chump change to these guys.

Euro countries gave $57bn to Greece and they are still struggling
www.bbc.co.uk...



posted on Mar, 3 2013 @ 09:16 PM
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Screw Egypt, how about give the U.S. People 190 M..


here we are broke, hanging on by a thread in most cases, many on the streets,
and the country is going belly up and they are giving money away????

seriously, we need to @#$can the lot of them and start over, only people that can pass
a common sense test are allowed in any type of govt office.



posted on Mar, 3 2013 @ 09:51 PM
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Originally posted by sonnny1

Originally posted by buster2010


nvm/.
edit on 3-3-2013 by lonewolf19792000 because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 3 2013 @ 10:09 PM
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Oh...noes we are broke the children will go hungry and the lines at airports will be too long to endure! It was my idea before it wasn't my idea...

Oh, we forgot to mention we are giving money away to the Muslim Brotherhood we hope you don't have a problem with that because we are doing it regardless.

Well, that and cutting our own military - so in essence we are strengthening our enemies and weakening ourselves.

Hope that is cool with you all; I have a mandate you know I won by like two whole percent.

I am Barrack Obama and I endorse this message....



I cannot fathom who would have voted for this man to be POTUS. Personally, I don't know anyone who did or at least no one who will admit it.

Why would we give money to anyone when we can't pay our own bills as it is.

Treason is what this is. Treason.

I have wished ill upon many a man in my day - and this asshat is at the top of my list.
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posted on Mar, 3 2013 @ 10:14 PM
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Originally posted by lambchop
The US will make that $250million back in no time!
A condition of the aid is to agree to a $4.8billion dollar loan from the IMF



Mr. Kerry said the aid decision reflected Egypt’s “extreme needs” and Mr. Morsi’s assurance that Egypt would reach an agreement with the I.M.F. after more than a year of talks over a $4.8 billion loan packag


www.nytimes.com...

also interesting is that the US gives Egypt Military aid of $1.3 billion per year

www.reuters.com...


Exactly! Sad that is lost on most people in this thread. A quarter billion is peanuts compared to IMF loans. The reason it's done in this fashion however is to protect politicians and government from nasty little terms like "extortion", "bribes", "payoffs", "crimes against humanity", that sort of things. Really it's just business as usual. I see it, I know it, I have no objection. Especially when 90% of people come into this thread and say something along the lines of "Why are we giving Egypt money when I only have one loaf of bread at home."

"Why is we funding the Islamist-errorists???"

Too many people think this way.... Sadly.

If you can't read between the lines, don't expect them to change.

Star for pointing out the obvious. (Or what is obvious to some...)
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posted on Mar, 3 2013 @ 10:34 PM
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Maybe you should stop listening to what they tell you about the economy?!?

I swear, you guys are so skeptical about MSM but when it comes to the economy you believe everything.

We print the damn money. How can you be broke when you're sitting next to the damn printer?!?
Our economy is fake. Get it through your thick skulls.



posted on Mar, 3 2013 @ 10:49 PM
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Originally posted by boncho
Exactly! Sad that is lost on most people in this thread. A quarter billion is peanuts compared to IMF loans.


So instead of gloating take the time to explain how this is such a great idea and how it will benefit the people of the United States...when will we see the return on this "investment " of money and what programs will it fund to our benefit or will it just make profit for private banks?


Originally posted by boncho
The reason it's done in this fashion however is to protect politicians and government from nasty little terms like "extortion", "bribes", "payoffs", "crimes against humanity", that sort of things.


We wouldn't want transparency or stuff like that muddying up the waters - can't let the people know what they are up to. At least I can respect men who say what they mean and mean what they say.


Originally posted by boncho
Really it's just business as usual. I see it, I know it, I have no objection.


You said something about how sad it is people don't understand. I find it worse that you do and won't take the time to explain it and that you have no problem with our government acting like mobsters.

I am really curious how giving money and aid to the Muslim Brotherhood benefits the American People. Please enlighten us plebs...as to how this will enrich our treasury or benifit even our political clout in the region.

Will it go towards our debt? Infastructure? Some private banks stockholder's dividends?

Spell it all out for us so we can revel in the greatness of this plan.



posted on Mar, 3 2013 @ 10:55 PM
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Have you ever considered "The Big Lie". ? The Truth would be that we are not going "Broke"
and that "The Sequester" is nothing but a Horse Race.

Maybe helping Egypt is a Good Thing in The Long Run?

Maybe the Mindset of "We Will Get Through This" is better than the overwhelming
"Gloom and Doom."

I am not denying the horrible economic plight for most of us Americans right here and now.
Do not think for a moment that I am immune to the pain.

Just remember, WE must Set an example for The World.
With Great Power Comes Great Headaches.

Keep Calm and Carry On



posted on Mar, 3 2013 @ 11:54 PM
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If I took the time to explain everything to every halfwit question that arose, I'd have a full time job. But I already have one, one that pays the bills. It's up to you to learn. To question things. To educate yourself.

or you can believe it's all Obama's fault, (as he was the first person to make monetary arrangements in the Middle East?)



I don't root for Obama or other politicians, but don't act as if he is the first to send money overseas. The sad truth is there is oil out there, and no matter how much you don't like your country involved in ME politics, until that oil is gone there is going to be meddling. And how it looks on the surface has nothing to do with how it actually is.


Originally posted by Golf66


I cannot fathom who would have voted for this man to be POTUS. Personally, I don't know anyone who did or at least no one who will admit it.

Why would we give money to anyone when we can't pay our own bills as it is.

Treason is what this is. Treason.

I have wished ill upon many a man in my day - and this asshat is at the top of my list.
edit on 3/3/2013 by Golf66 because: (no reason given)


So while you cry "Treason" which is laughable, it's business as usual for the past 80+ years.



posted on Mar, 4 2013 @ 12:13 AM
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Originally posted by boncho
reply to post by Golf66

If I took the time to explain everything to every halfwit question that arose, I'd have a full time job.


You know there was a man who told me that about a lot of things - come to find out he had no idea what he was talking about half the time and wanted to sound smart and mysterious so forgive me if I call the BS flag until I see you explain it.

If as you said 90% of the people don't get it I'd say it’s not a half-witted question. If you claim to know the answer - give it.


Originally posted by boncho
or you can believe it's all Obama's fault, (as he was the first person to make monetary arrangements in the Middle East?)



Now who is being half-witted - there are a lot of assumptions in that sentence. I never stated that I believed "it" is all Obama's fault. Hardly.

I

Originally posted by bonchobut don't act as if he is the first to send money overseas.


My distaste for his approving of this disbursement doesn't have a thing to do with absolution for the rest before him who have done the same thing.

The sad truth is there is oil out there, and no matter how much you don't like your country involved in ME politics, until that oil is gone there is going to be meddling. And how it looks on the surface has nothing to do with how it actually is.


Originally posted by boncho
So while you cry "Treason" which is laughable, it's business as usual for the past 80+ years.


Again, just because something has always been doesn't make it just...

Nor does it make the act of reducing our own military budget while enhancing that of a potential enemy any less treasonous – regardless of who authorized it.

Humor me and just explain how an IMF loan to Egypt helps the US citizen in any way.

That should be easy for someone as smart as you. Give it a shot in one paragraph with some figures on how it will pay off for us in monetary terms.



posted on Mar, 4 2013 @ 01:54 AM
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How in the hell this doesn't have hundreds of flags and at the top of the hot topics is beyond me. Especially for folks here in the US. And folks quit your bitching and complaining about socialism/capitalism/ Obama sucks/Bush sucks crap. This is about our country peeing away money we don't have anymore. This should have everyone up in arms and marching to their representatives offices and Washington right now. The simple fact that we all come here try to blame it on everything else and nobody outright demands it stops speaks volumes. This is just insane, insane. I myself am sick and tired of my community having to go without so we can hand money over to other countries. We locally have closed down 10 schools in my tiny city alone in the past 2 yrs!!! Funding for everything has been chopped, people are jobless and now even more because of the spending cuts. But we can afford to bail everyone else out. I give up, I honestly do it's just too maddening anymore the amount things the leaders of this country do to us. I call for a major major dismantling of the current system and a complete overhaul.
And this isn't the first time I have suggested this, it's been said over my years here, not like I just woke up or something. But this takes the cake especially when you have an article about the country being broke and loss of more jobs and this Kerry article next to each other on the same page.



posted on Mar, 4 2013 @ 06:29 AM
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Originally posted by sonnny1

Originally posted by buster2010



Can you show the people who supported Bush that held him accountable for anything?


Ill let Snoop tell ya.......





And what office has he held?



posted on Mar, 4 2013 @ 06:31 AM
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Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by buster2010

Can you show the people who supported Bush that held him accountable for anything?


Back in the day, we used to hold those who were in charge accountable. Something along the lines of, "The buck stops here."

Nowadays, the cool thing is to blame everyone else and to never take responsibility.

*Ahhh, the good ol' days


Like the other I asked and he failed to back it up you show me.





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