Are Big Banks a Bunch of Organized Criminal Conspiracies?, page


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Topic started on 2-3-2013 @ 02:28 PM by FyreByrd

Are too-big-to-fail banks organized criminal conspiracies? And if so, shouldn't we seize their assets, just like we do to drug cartels?

Let's examine their sorry record of deceit and deception that has surfaced in just the past two months:

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Nationalize Now and Create State Banks

There are about 20 too-big-to fail banks which have been designated "systematically significant." These should be immediately nationalized. Shareholder value should be wiped out because these banks are repeatedly violating the law, including aiding and abetting criminal enterprises. All employees should be placed on the federal civil service scale, where the top salary is approximately $130,000.

Can the government run banks? Yes, if we break up the big banks and turn them over to state governments so that each state would have at least one public bank. (North Dakota has a strong working model.) The larger states would have several public state banks. But never again would we allow banks to grow so large as to threaten our financial system and violate the public trust. Let FDIC regulate the state banks. They're actually good at it.

(We'd also have to do something about the shadow banking industry -- the large hedge funds and private equity firms. Eliminating their carried-interest tax loophole and slapping on a strong financial transaction tax would go a long way toward reining them in.)

Won't the most talented bankers leave the industry?

Hurray! It can't happen soon enough. It's time for the best and the brightest to rejoin the human race and help produce value for their fellow citizens. Let them become doctors, research scientists, teachers or even wealthy entrepreneurs who produce tangible goods and services that we want and need. What we don't need are more banksters.

Isn't This Socialism?

We already have socialism for rich financiers. They get to keep all of the upside of their shady machinations and we get to bail them out when they fail. This billionaire bailout society is now so entrenched that our nascent economic recovery of the last two years has been entirely captured by the top 1 percent. Meanwhile the rest of have received nothing. Nada. (See "Why Is the Entire Recovery Going to the Top One Percent? [16]")

I know, I know, people say, "Next time, just don't bail them out!" Meanwhile, they get to rip us off, day in and day out, until the next crash? No thanks. Put them out of business now. If you have a better idea, let's hear it.



From AlterNet:
www.alternet.org...

This is a nice article on Banking Malfeasance that proposes an interesting viewpoint - seize their assets. LOL.

However it does backup my continuing agrument that Government is not the problem (or the enemy) and that the problem (enemy) is BIG BUSINESS (particularly BIG FINANCE). It is true that modern government is 'on the payroll' of these very BIG BUSINESSes of which I speak but it's a very important distinction. And we will never get a government that is responsive to the needs of all it's constituents until BIG MONEY influenance is contained.

When we talk of Psy-Ops, we always name "government" as the perpetrator - but who benefits? It's BIG BUSINESS that benefits in the end. It's BIG BUSINESS that is behind the 'anti-government' rage, it's a psy-op, a diversion from the real problem - BIG MONEY INTERESTS.

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reply posted on 2-3-2013 @ 03:08 PM by FyreByrd
reply to post by Honestyforall



Just recently in the news BIG BANKS have admitted to laundering drug cartel money. That's illegal.....

From:

www.informationclearinghouse.info...

(there I can use sources from both sides of the Wack-A-Doodle line"


December 17, 2012 "Information Clearing House" - In what the New York Times declared as a “dark day for the rule of law” on December 11, 2012, HSBC, the world’s second largest bank, failed to be indicted for extensive criminal activities in laundering money to and from regimes under sanctions, Mexican drug cartels, and terrorist organizations (including al-Qaeda). While admitting culpability, and with guilt assured, state and federal authorities in the United States decided not to indict the bank “over concerns that criminal charges could jeopardize one of the world’s largest banks and ultimately destabilize the global financial system.” Instead, HSBC agreed to pay a $1.92 billion settlement.




reply posted on 2-3-2013 @ 05:09 PM by Ex_CT2
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I think it's a well-established fact by now that they are indeed a bunch of criminals. They pay for government protection, so it's not like anybody's going to do anything about it.

Here's a good place for some eye-opening information:

Gangster Bankers: Too Big to Jail [Matt Taibbi/Rolling Stone]

The deal was announced quietly, just before the holidays, almost like the government was hoping people were too busy hanging stockings by the fireplace to notice. Flooring politicians, lawyers and investigators all over the world, the U.S. Justice Department granted a total walk to executives of the British-based bank HSBC for the largest drug-and-terrorism money-laundering case ever. Yes, they issued a fine – $1.9 billion, or about five weeks' profit – but they didn't extract so much as one dollar or one day in jail from any individual, despite a decade of stupefying abuses.


Taibbi has been writing these stories for years; he's an expert in it, and he doesn't pull any punches....

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reply posted on 2-3-2013 @ 05:19 PM by Terminal1
Originally posted by Ex_CT2
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post by FyreByrd



I think it's a well-established fact by now that they are indeed a bunch of criminals. They pay for government protection, so it's not like anybody's going to do anything about it.

Here's a good place for some eye-opening information:

Gangster Bankers: Too Big to Jail [Matt Taibbi/Rolling Stone]

The deal was announced quietly, just before the holidays, almost like the government was hoping people were too busy hanging stockings by the fireplace to notice. Flooring politicians, lawyers and investigators all over the world, the U.S. Justice Department granted a total walk to executives of the British-based bank HSBC for the largest drug-and-terrorism money-laundering case ever. Yes, they issued a fine – $1.9 billion, or about five weeks' profit – but they didn't extract so much as one dollar or one day in jail from any individual, despite a decade of stupefying abuses.


Taibbi has been writing these stories for years; he's an expert in it, and he doesn't pull any punches....

edit on 3/2/2013 by Ex_CT2 because: (no reason given)


I don't think they are buying protection. These multinationals have already captured government. They are using it as their personal brute squad.


reply posted on 4-3-2013 @ 05:04 PM by Honestyforall
I think some in USA treat Mexico bad and I think USA and Mexico do not need to have this drugwar with Mexico. I think some in USA cheat some in Mexico to have Mexico poorer than USA in money. If Mexico stop produce drugs or stop tp try to smuggle drugs over to USA the Mexico will be a rich and good and nice country to live in for all in Mexico. I think the mostley of heroin and other drugs in the world is produced inside USA. I think the drugs that came in to USA from Mexico is under 3 % of the drugs that USA produce to those that use most drugs in USA. I think some in USA that buy or steal the drugs from Mexico have nearly full control with the Mexican-USA border and they who have full control with the border rule over the police in USA and the police do not know who they are, but I think they can find them if they are enough honesty police people. I think many Mexicans get cheated to produce drugs and to smuggle drugs and many that smuggle the drugs is cheated and they get catched on the border or inside USA and the drugs they smuggle is taking in to USA and people that have drugproduction inside USA get this drugs to and they are those that cheated the Mexican drugsmugglers and drugproducers to like giving them drugs without paying for the drugs.

If USA would stop the drugsmuggling from Mexico they would easy stop it but somebody in USA want that Mexico shall be poor so they do want to help Mexico to stop produce drugs or smuggle drugs.

Quess why?
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