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1) Do you believe the goal is to equalise suffering through punitive wealth redistribution?
2) Or create a society where everybody contributes equally in % terms to the burden of funding societies collective endeavours.
Originally posted by WaterBottle
reply to post by justwokeup
1) Do you believe the goal is to equalise suffering through punitive wealth redistribution?
Clearly you do as you support a tax system that would cause huge wealth inequality and diminish the majorities quality of life.
2) Or create a society where everybody contributes equally in % terms to the burden of funding societies collective endeavours.
It's not equal in % terms because not everyone has the same income. The only way it would be equal is if everyone were paid the same wages.
Originally posted by conspiracy nut
Poiliticans are part of the 1 percent the link is from forbes magazine, last i checked it was not a COMMUNIST magazine.
so this is why Boehner and the republicans refuse to budge on raising taxes on the wealthy, because they are amongst the wealthiest in america!!!!! kind of makes me give a little respect to Obama and the democrats, they are actually willing to take one for the team, unllike the republicans who would rather have the rest of us eat cake than god forbid pay more taxes.
read the article, i am not being a COMMUNIST, i am not lazy, i am not on welfare, i provide and struggle for my family like millions of other americans! i am part of the american workers whose "productivity has raised 80 percent since 1979" "If the average person’s wages had kept pace with the economy since the 70s, most people would be making $92,000 per year." (facts taken from the article)
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yes its called owning a business, try starting one so obama can call you an evil capitalist
Originally posted by Ghost375
Originally posted by TheWrightWing
reply to post by conspiracy nut
It couldn't be that the "1%" pay well over 40% of all Federal Taxes, could it?
But they earn about 70% of the wealth.
Don't tell me that's fair.
Originally posted by TheWrightWing
reply to post by conspiracy nut
It couldn't be that the "1%" pay well over 40% of all Federal Taxes, could it?
Is this what the left means by "Fair Share"? Sounds like State Approved looting to me.
How about everyone paying their Fair Share, including the nearly 50% who pay Zero taxes, but who can vote for other people's taxes raised even more? They'll soon be the majority, and workers will become enslaved by the entitlement class, by working harder, earning less to provide the entitled even more "free stuff" they vote for.
Flat tax for all would nearly eliminate the IRS, and everyone, yes EVERYONE would pay their Fair Share with the added bonus of having skin in the game.
Or, better yet, abolish the Federal Reserve and re-instate Taxes on Profit only. Reminder: Wages are not Profit, they are a fair trade.
Originally posted by Merinda
Originally posted by conspiracy nut
Poiliticans are part of the 1 percent the link is from forbes magazine, last i checked it was not a COMMUNIST magazine.
so this is why Boehner and the republicans refuse to budge on raising taxes on the wealthy, because they are amongst the wealthiest in america!!!!! kind of makes me give a little respect to Obama and the democrats, they are actually willing to take one for the team, unllike the republicans who would rather have the rest of us eat cake than god forbid pay more taxes.
read the article, i am not being a COMMUNIST, i am not lazy, i am not on welfare, i provide and struggle for my family like millions of other americans! i am part of the american workers whose "productivity has raised 80 percent since 1979" "If the average person’s wages had kept pace with the economy since the 70s, most people would be making $92,000 per year." (facts taken from the article)
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Communism is about a centralized government you have no vote in ruling over you. It has absolutely nothing to do with how high tax rates are. If tax rates are 90% across the board america still is not communist. America will be communist when its leaders in the one party system are not elected anymore.
People throw around big words on and on without knowing what they are talking about. At least google it.
Originally posted by Kr0nZ
Originally posted by TheWrightWing
Originally posted by Ghost375
Originally posted by TheWrightWing
reply to post by conspiracy nut
It couldn't be that the "1%" pay well over 40% of all Federal Taxes, could it?
But they earn about 70% of the wealth.
Who are you to determine how much anyone can earn? Why not earn some yourself?
Stop counting other peoples money and worry about your own situation.
My earning more than you does not adversely affect you in any way. Penalising my success also, does not benefit you in any other way than purely symbolic self satisfaction, but does harm you, by producing an economy like we see today.
Is it the "Earning" part that irks you? Would you feel better if The State took it from someone else and gave it to them?
If you earn 70% of the wealth, you should be paying 70% of the taxes,
if you earn 0% of the wealth, you should be paying 0% of the taxes
Originally posted by jimmyx
maybe if the income of the bottom 90% kept up with the income of the top 10% over the last 20 years, there would be more taxes paid into our system, there would be more economic growth, a larger portion of the population would be saving more money in more banks creating more money to lend out to create more businesses, which would create more jobs, which would create more tax revenue...etc.....
Originally posted by conspiracy nut
hopefully since you havent replied yet you are reading the article. the politicians are part of the 1 percent, so if they arent closer to the super wealthy than you or i, i don't know what t tell ya.
here is an idea for a budget cut, how about we lower politicans pay? get them out of the 1 percent and then figure out how we can get the rest of our pay to keep up w inflation. in my opinion politicians should be in it to help the people and their country, not to become part of the 1 percent and take advantage of the same disparity and wealth that has seen the average americans wealth remain stagnant since the 70's.
Originally posted by spiritualzombie
I'm just thinking here... conservatives known to fight against civil rights, equality, be in favor of war and torture, accept no responsibility for the environment, say teachers are lazy and over paid, and fight with everything they've got against affordable healthcare... and now the revelation that they might be guided by the purest level despicable greed?It's just so hard to believe...
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