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Originally posted by Hopechest
reply to post by conspiracy nut
Productivity going up has nothing to do with workers working harder.
Just the opposite actually. Its the advent of technology and machines that make productivity go up. Look at how much more our farms can produce even though small family farms have all but been destroyed.
Productivity is a corporate goal and leads to layoffs, reduction in jobs, and higher unemployment.
If anyone deserves a raise for the increase in production its the guys that fired their workers and replaced them with machines.
See how silly your point is?
Originally posted by TheWrightWing
Originally posted by Ghost375
Originally posted by TheWrightWing
reply to post by conspiracy nut
It couldn't be that the "1%" pay well over 40% of all Federal Taxes, could it?
But they earn about 70% of the wealth.
Who are you to determine how much anyone can earn? Why not earn some yourself?
Stop counting other peoples money and worry about your own situation.
My earning more than you does not adversely affect you in any way. Penalising my success also, does not benefit you in any other way than purely symbolic self satisfaction, but does harm you, by producing an economy like we see today.
Is it the "Earning" part that irks you? Would you feel better if The State took it from someone else and gave it to them?
In fact, Americans have increased productivity by 80 percent since 1979;
Originally posted by conspiracy nut
Originally posted by Hopechest
reply to post by conspiracy nut
Productivity going up has nothing to do with workers working harder.
Just the opposite actually. Its the advent of technology and machines that make productivity go up. Look at how much more our farms can produce even though small family farms have all but been destroyed.
Productivity is a corporate goal and leads to layoffs, reduction in jobs, and higher unemployment.
If anyone deserves a raise for the increase in production its the guys that fired their workers and replaced them with machines.
See how silly your point is?
ok so in your opinion we should be like chinese workers and just continue to work for companies that make billions in profits as we sit there and eat peanuts? because w your attitude thats exactly where we are headed.
see how silly your point is?
Originally posted by conspiracy nut
i will attempt to be civil. there is a huge wealth disparity in america, you cannot deny that. the profits keep going up and the money is being funneled a way from the average american. in all fairness taxing more may not be fair, what would be fair would be those insane profits somehow funneled to the average american worker so that we can have a living wage that keeps up with economy and inflation, can you argue against that without caling me a commie?
explain to me why gas costs so much around the world yet the oil companies continue to make record profits? it's part of the same greed that i'm talking about.
the majority of americans are living check to check and we are being price gouged and wage enslaved by the very companies and corporations that are making record profits!!! how can you not see anything wrong with that?
can you please explain how you don't see anything wrong with that without calling me a commie or a hater?
Originally posted by conspiracy nut
reply to post by jimmiec
link, source? did this happen overnight? last i heard boehner refused to negotiate w obama because he wanted to raise taxes on the wealthy, last i checked obama and boehner are wealthy!!
you guys just love taking it up the rear don't you? perhaps you desire to become one of the 1 percent and leave your fellow americans in the dust w stagnant wages as well? please read the entire article and then tell me there isn't something fishy going on.
tell me what good is it to become part of the 1 percent when you will have to live up on a hill in a armed, gated community because the rest of the country has turned into detroit?
Originally posted by TheWrightWing
reply to post by conspiracy nut
It couldn't be that the "1%" pay well over 40% of all Federal Taxes, could it?
Is this what the left means by "Fair Share"? Sounds like State Approved looting to me.
How about everyone paying their Fair Share, including the nearly 50% who pay Zero taxes, but who can vote for other people's taxes raised even more? They'll soon be the majority, and workers will become enslaved by the entitlement class, by working harder, earning less to provide the entitled even more "free stuff" they vote for.
Flat tax for all would nearly eliminate the IRS, and everyone, yes EVERYONE would pay their Fair Share with the added bonus of having skin in the game.
Or, better yet, abolish the Federal Reserve and re-instate Taxes on Profit only. Reminder: Wages are not Profit, they are a fair trade.
Originally posted by Kr0nZ
Originally posted by TheWrightWing
Originally posted by Ghost375
Originally posted by TheWrightWing
reply to post by conspiracy nut
It couldn't be that the "1%" pay well over 40% of all Federal Taxes, could it?
But they earn about 70% of the wealth.
Who are you to determine how much anyone can earn? Why not earn some yourself?
Stop counting other peoples money and worry about your own situation.
My earning more than you does not adversely affect you in any way. Penalising my success also, does not benefit you in any other way than purely symbolic self satisfaction, but does harm you, by producing an economy like we see today.
Is it the "Earning" part that irks you? Would you feel better if The State took it from someone else and gave it to them?
If you earn 70% of the wealth, you should be paying 70% of the taxes,
if you earn 0% of the wealth, you should be paying 0% of the taxes
i would be happy if companies making record profits paid their employees a wage that keeps up with inflation and the economy.
i would be happy if companies making record profits were not price gouging us left and right.
i would be happy if my fellow working americans weren't living in poverty
paying $4 a gallon at the pump and getting priced gouged at the grocery store.
Originally posted by GreenGlassDoor
reply to post by Hopechest
The only problem I have with what you wrote is the whole assumption that college = $$$. There has been a debate going back 30 years concerning the veracity of this claim.