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Originally posted by bdb818888
Hey, when you died , did you have an OBE ?
reply to post by duotri
Although I can't prove it - I believe we do have a designated death date. I know I signed up for everything and charted this lifetime including entry and exit...I don't look at free will existing while I am here
Originally posted by saintinwaiting
This question got my attention, and the only thing I can offer, is my very extensive NDE research of the past few months, poring over books, articles, online compilations of info and stories, videos, everything I can get my hands on. One thing that I saw many people relate when they came back from "dying" and seeing God or Jesus or whoever or whatever their particular journey took them to till they came back to their bodies - they often said they were told to go back because they had particular things to complete, their mission was not finished, they had not done enough, etc. For me, it's nice to think we all have an important part in "the scheme of things". Anyways, some even said they were shown the events of their past from the point of view of how others were made to feel or were affected by us (life review). This made the individual want to do things much differently when they returned to "life". But to answer your question, some also said they were shown major life events ahead, up to the time of their death or "return" to immortality, so as to help them not struggle with the going back - they needed to see WHY they needed to return to this struggle we call life. Often they liked it so much in the afterlife, coming back to their miserable (and often sickly) bodies or limited physical state was not appealing to them at all, but they were not always in control of that choice - their graphic descriptions of what it was like to "slip" back into their bodies was also really interesting to hear, as well as how it was the moment they were out of the body and how different everything was, yet similar, too. It's like it was designed to be gentle and pleasant, and it's not scary at all, it's rather exhilirating, if you are headed the right direction, that is. What they said happened to suicides is another story and not what you would think.
They did say that after they came back, many of these future things they were shown were held from their memory so that they would not be distracted with living life and not thinking ahead or anticipating their own demise, which would complicate their journey.
Another thing I can relate, is that people were told that they had chosen their particular path, even their parents (and some young toddlers have also related this to their parents when very young, when they can still remember before they were sent here to their physical form). It's hard to imagine, but they said they had chosen certain challenges in life, positions or difficulties or placements, so as to not only put themselves through that learning experience, but also to help others learn things from it. It's like we were challenging ourselves from the get-go, which can be hard for some to imagine. Some were told that life itself was a training and proving ground for us all, a place to learn and grow and evolve spiritually, to develop character and strength and understanding, but not all choose the good path, obviously. Some get caught up in evil and stay on a lower level of development, never finding the truth about the love that we came from or are to be.
Many also had a sudden, (and sometimes shocking if they were an atheist or whatnot), revelation as they left the physical body and moved toward that intense, powerful, energy/light. It was all encompassing and so wonderful and full of unconditional love that it drew them in like a giant hug, so to speak - and at that moment, they KNEW, this was their creator, their father, they were HOME, as if they had returned from a very long journey. It was truly so life changing that they never come back the same. Others describe coming back from a really advanced, terminal illness, to completely and miraculously recover and continue their journey.
Hope that helps.edit on 2-3-2013 by saintinwaiting because: grammar
Originally posted by adjensen
It depends on whether there is a god of some sort who exists outside of time.
If there is one, then, yes, you have an appointment with death, because that deity knows when you'll die, and how.
If there isn't one, then, no, you'll die when you die, and there's no way of knowing when, or how, that will come about.
Originally posted by cody599
Regardless we all have an appointment with death , the question is whether or not it is pre-determined be it by deity or self?