Chicago School Board Approves Sex Education Program For Kindergarten Children, page 2


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reply posted on 1-3-2013 @ 11:09 PM by Honor93
reply to post by jude11


uh, you really asked this question ?
Who knows the child more than their parents?
the child.
the same child who should be given the opportunity to advance at THEIR pace, not yours.

how many children who are gender challenged KNEW they were different long before age 5 ??
do you really think their parents knew first ??

i agree with the 'testing ground' statement but i cannot support the assumptions that accompany it without evidence.

i don't want to believe it could be as you describe, however, sadly, i also know it's more than possible.

don't get me wrong, i'd like to see "Health" class expanded to include such 'safety' issues.
however, i think the term Sex Education is probably misleading at best.


reply posted on 1-3-2013 @ 11:56 PM by littled16
reply to post by jude11

"Discussions on sexual orientation and gender identity" pretty much says it all. It's the Liberal agenda of programming children at the youngest age possible to be good little politically correct drones. This isn't about keeping children healthy or safe, it's about pushing Lesbian/Gay/Transexual lifestyles to be accepted. I understand wanting to teach kids to be accepting of all people, but come on! Do we really need little kids questioning their sexual identities? "OH, Little Johnny likes playing with Suzie more than with Fred- he must be transgender!"

I'm sure that there are a small percentage of children that actually may be experiencing difficulties in this area, but that should be handled by the school counselor with the parent(s). Classes of this sort at such a young age could end up opening a bad can of worms. I feel Kindergarden is too young for this.


reply posted on 2-3-2013 @ 12:05 AM by jude11
reply to post by Ghost375





Wouldn't you rather have your kid learn it from a teacher, as opposed to some twisted kid?


No.

I would rather have it as my choice as to when, how and who teaches my child about one of the most important lessons they will be subject to.

The Govt. has no right whatsoever to dictate these terms. Stay out of our houses!

Peace


reply posted on 2-3-2013 @ 12:11 AM by jude11
Originally posted by Honor93
reply to
post by jude11


uh, you really asked this question ?
Who knows the child more than their parents?
the child.
the same child who should be given the opportunity to advance at THEIR pace, not yours.

how many children who are gender challenged KNEW they were different long before age 5 ??
do you really think their parents knew first ??

i agree with the 'testing ground' statement but i cannot support the assumptions that accompany it without evidence.

i don't want to believe it could be as you describe, however, sadly, i also know it's more than possible.

don't get me wrong, i'd like to see "Health" class expanded to include such 'safety' issues.
however, i think the term Sex Education is probably misleading at best.


It's a 5 yr old CHILD.

Not property of the GOVT> whereas they dictate how, when, where etc. I can teach my child.

Because some parents are not so great, they are they litmus test that makes us all unfit?

Please don't tell me that we now have to dumb down our society, give control of our families to the GOVT. because they just know more than us and can raise our kids better.

Communism anyone?

Peace


reply posted on 2-3-2013 @ 01:23 AM by Honor93
reply to post by jude11


hey now, i didn't say your interpretation of the teaching material was spot on and neither can you.

until some specifics are available, who says intercourse or coital pleasures would even be discussed ?

i don't agree with sending kids to public schools but if they are there, then i suppose they are going to learn about some of it, aren't they ?
whether it's in class or not isn't really the question, is it ??

ps - since the school board made this decision, why are you blaming 'government' ??
it would seem members of the school board should be receiving the brunt of your disgust.
since school board members are seldom politicians, perhaps your net is too big for the fish you're trying to catch?
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reply posted on 2-3-2013 @ 08:15 AM by buster2010
Originally posted by jude11
reply to
post by Honor93





as for 'learning', why would you want to hold back your own children until YOU are ready ?? that seems counterintuitive.


Not until the parent is ready but rather when the parent KNOWS the child is ready. Who knows the child more than their parents?

And no, it's not my area but I have to question how far this will spread once it's in play? Always a testing ground and then it becomes the accepted norm.

Peace

You must be unaware of how the family unit is in America. Most of the parents today are parents in name only. They are too worried about their own careers and their own social lives to pay attention to their children. So what do they do? They let society raise their children. So if anyone is to blame for programs like this for popping up in school blame the parents for not doing their jobs.



reply posted on 2-3-2013 @ 08:45 AM by aero56
Originally posted by newcovenant
reply to
post by jude11




Considering that predators often use a child's ignorance about what is good touch and what is bad touch to molest them, and they use a child's ignorance about what is happening to them, and whether it is right or not, against them, I think this will equip children to protect themselves.

Knowledge will give them more self assurance and probably inspire children to understand and speak up if someone is taking advantage of them in a sexual way. Until a certain age, children do not know the difference between sexual touch and appropriate touch or affection. They might seem similar to them. Predator adults and older children often take advantage this ignorance. In too many instances people are against this "education" because they are afraid their child will speak up and say this is happening at home.

I doubt they are showing kids this young how to have sex and prevent pregnancy or even how babies are made. They are talking about age appropriate information like good touch and bad touch. If the curriculum for these lessons is age appropriate, how can knowledge harm? Deny ignorance.


edit on 1-3-2013 by newcovenant because: (no reason given)



Well said, and I agree totally.


reply posted on 2-3-2013 @ 01:17 PM by Ghost375
Originally posted by jude11
reply to
post by Ghost375





Wouldn't you rather have your kid learn it from a teacher, as opposed to some twisted kid?


I would rather have it as my choice as to when, how and who teaches my child about one of the most important lessons they will be subject to.


A kid is either going to learn it from school, another kid his age in the 1st grade, or you. It's just not your choice if a kid tells him in school, is it? And guess what, that's the much more likely possibility.

Kids talk about it a lot in grades 1-5. BEFORE the school teaches them. BEFORE you think they're old enough. You can close your eyes, and plug your ears, and pretend like it's not happening, it is.

The ONLY way to ensure you teach him is to home school.

It's sad, but it's a fact. That was my point. You seem to have just either missed it, or outright ignored it.


My question still stands, would you rather have the school teach him or another twisted kid? Because in 99/100 cases, a kid will learn about it from some kid in their school before you are brave enough to teach him.
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reply posted on 2-3-2013 @ 01:24 PM by NOTurTypical
reply to post by jude11



WTF are these liberal morons thinking? Kindergarten?


reply posted on 2-3-2013 @ 11:08 PM by Honor93
reply to post by JohnPhoenix


and, you were personally advised of the curriculum ??
if so and you have a copy, care to share ?

if not, then save your extremes for the extremists
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