Chicago School Board Approves Sex Education Program For Kindergarten Children

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posted on Mar, 1 2013 @ 11:09 PM
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uh, you really asked this question ?

Who knows the child more than their parents?
the child.
the same child who should be given the opportunity to advance at THEIR pace, not yours.

how many children who are gender challenged KNEW they were different long before age 5 ??
do you really think their parents knew first ??

i agree with the 'testing ground' statement but i cannot support the assumptions that accompany it without evidence.

i don't want to believe it could be as you describe, however, sadly, i also know it's more than possible.

don't get me wrong, i'd like to see "Health" class expanded to include such 'safety' issues.
however, i think the term Sex Education is probably misleading at best.




posted on Mar, 1 2013 @ 11:25 PM
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Kids talk about that stuff in 1st grade. Don't be ignorant.
Wouldn't you rather have your kid learn it from a teacher, as opposed to some twisted kid?

In a perfect world, we wouldn't need to have this discussion. But the real world is different. To be outraged over this is ignorant to what actually happens in the real world.



posted on Mar, 1 2013 @ 11:29 PM
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To hell with Chicago. The laws suck and so does the pizza.



posted on Mar, 1 2013 @ 11:56 PM
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"Discussions on sexual orientation and gender identity" pretty much says it all. It's the Liberal agenda of programming children at the youngest age possible to be good little politically correct drones. This isn't about keeping children healthy or safe, it's about pushing Lesbian/Gay/Transexual lifestyles to be accepted. I understand wanting to teach kids to be accepting of all people, but come on! Do we really need little kids questioning their sexual identities? "OH, Little Johnny likes playing with Suzie more than with Fred- he must be transgender!"

I'm sure that there are a small percentage of children that actually may be experiencing difficulties in this area, but that should be handled by the school counselor with the parent(s). Classes of this sort at such a young age could end up opening a bad can of worms. I feel Kindergarden is too young for this.



posted on Mar, 1 2013 @ 11:58 PM
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Originally posted by jude11
Nothing about looking for sores on your fuzzy parts...



WHAT!!!

You're Not supposed to have sores down there??



Why was I never taught this in school!!!!!!!



posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 12:02 AM
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Originally posted by winofiend

Originally posted by jude11
Nothing about looking for sores on your fuzzy parts...



WHAT!!!

You're Not supposed to have sores down there??



Why was I never taught this in school!!!!!!!



Because we were never taught how to spell STD?


Peace



posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 12:04 AM
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Originally posted by Ghost375
Kids talk about that stuff in 1st grade. Don't be ignorant.
Wouldn't you rather have your kid learn it from a teacher, as opposed to some twisted kid?

In a perfect world, we wouldn't need to have this discussion. But the real world is different. To be outraged over this is ignorant to what actually happens in the real world.


I can tell you that no self imposed authority is going to teach any child of mine about 'sex education' in a class room environment.

Where the birds and the birds parade around and the bees sting each other at mardi gras.

I am all for equality. I am all for education. But some things are a parents role.

If this now becomes a discussion about the inability of some parents to be responsible in their role as parents, it is a different one to having your 5 year old taught about gender/transgender differences and whats a diddle do.

If parents are incapable of teaching their children the basics - and they are - then they need to be not having children.

"Now, honey boo boo, what is the difference between boys and girls?"
"CAKE!"



posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 12:04 AM
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8 yr old are still going to be addicted to porn and desensitized as to healthy adult relationships for the rest of their life.

Why the rush? Especially the media, entertainment is FULL of sexual connotations including slipping sexual jokes at children and passing it off as good humor.

Last I checked, the Americas including USA are where teens loose their virginity earliest, and 50% already contract an STD.

Will teaching 5 yr olds to laugh about condoms and to call 911 or tell their teacher if anyone touches them in the wrong way stop teen pregnancies or parents raping their own children? No, because the problem is society being so sexually liberated and obsessed. It's all about consuming sex as a commodity. Americans are the fattest, and the most sexually obcessed. Check our all the porn addiction statistics yourself if its not obvious in any big movies such as AMERICAN PIE.



posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 12:05 AM
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Wouldn't you rather have your kid learn it from a teacher, as opposed to some twisted kid?


No.

I would rather have it as my choice as to when, how and who teaches my child about one of the most important lessons they will be subject to.

The Govt. has no right whatsoever to dictate these terms. Stay out of our houses!

Peace



posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 12:11 AM
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Originally posted by Honor93
reply to post by jude11
 

uh, you really asked this question ?

Who knows the child more than their parents?
the child.
the same child who should be given the opportunity to advance at THEIR pace, not yours.

how many children who are gender challenged KNEW they were different long before age 5 ??
do you really think their parents knew first ??

i agree with the 'testing ground' statement but i cannot support the assumptions that accompany it without evidence.

i don't want to believe it could be as you describe, however, sadly, i also know it's more than possible.

don't get me wrong, i'd like to see "Health" class expanded to include such 'safety' issues.
however, i think the term Sex Education is probably misleading at best.


It's a 5 yr old CHILD.

Not property of the GOVT> whereas they dictate how, when, where etc. I can teach my child.

Because some parents are not so great, they are they litmus test that makes us all unfit?

Please don't tell me that we now have to dumb down our society, give control of our families to the GOVT. because they just know more than us and can raise our kids better.

Communism anyone?

Peace



posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 01:23 AM
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hey now, i didn't say your interpretation of the teaching material was spot on and neither can you.

until some specifics are available, who says intercourse or coital pleasures would even be discussed ?

i don't agree with sending kids to public schools but if they are there, then i suppose they are going to learn about some of it, aren't they ?
whether it's in class or not isn't really the question, is it ??

ps - since the school board made this decision, why are you blaming 'government' ??
it would seem members of the school board should be receiving the brunt of your disgust.
since school board members are seldom politicians, perhaps your net is too big for the fish you're trying to catch?
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posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 08:15 AM
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Originally posted by jude11
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as for 'learning', why would you want to hold back your own children until YOU are ready ?? that seems counterintuitive.


Not until the parent is ready but rather when the parent KNOWS the child is ready. Who knows the child more than their parents?

And no, it's not my area but I have to question how far this will spread once it's in play? Always a testing ground and then it becomes the accepted norm.

Peace

You must be unaware of how the family unit is in America. Most of the parents today are parents in name only. They are too worried about their own careers and their own social lives to pay attention to their children. So what do they do? They let society raise their children. So if anyone is to blame for programs like this for popping up in school blame the parents for not doing their jobs.



posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 08:45 AM
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Originally posted by newcovenant
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Considering that predators often use a child's ignorance about what is good touch and what is bad touch to molest them, and they use a child's ignorance about what is happening to them, and whether it is right or not, against them, I think this will equip children to protect themselves.

Knowledge will give them more self assurance and probably inspire children to understand and speak up if someone is taking advantage of them in a sexual way. Until a certain age, children do not know the difference between sexual touch and appropriate touch or affection. They might seem similar to them. Predator adults and older children often take advantage this ignorance. In too many instances people are against this "education" because they are afraid their child will speak up and say this is happening at home.

I doubt they are showing kids this young how to have sex and prevent pregnancy or even how babies are made. They are talking about age appropriate information like good touch and bad touch. If the curriculum for these lessons is age appropriate, how can knowledge harm? Deny ignorance.


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Well said, and I agree totally.



posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 01:17 PM
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Originally posted by jude11
reply to post by Ghost375
 





Wouldn't you rather have your kid learn it from a teacher, as opposed to some twisted kid?


I would rather have it as my choice as to when, how and who teaches my child about one of the most important lessons they will be subject to.


A kid is either going to learn it from school, another kid his age in the 1st grade, or you. It's just not your choice if a kid tells him in school, is it? And guess what, that's the much more likely possibility.

Kids talk about it a lot in grades 1-5. BEFORE the school teaches them. BEFORE you think they're old enough. You can close your eyes, and plug your ears, and pretend like it's not happening, it is.

The ONLY way to ensure you teach him is to home school.

It's sad, but it's a fact. That was my point. You seem to have just either missed it, or outright ignored it.


My question still stands, would you rather have the school teach him or another twisted kid? Because in 99/100 cases, a kid will learn about it from some kid in their school before you are brave enough to teach him.
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posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 01:24 PM
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WTF are these liberal morons thinking? Kindergarten?



posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 02:14 PM
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Originally posted by Honor93
where's the problem ?

most kids are already inquiring about those things and many who are gender confused, are so at that age so why not ?

anatomy should already be well known by kindergarten.
healthy relationships should be a no-brainer at any age.
and personal safety ?? like what - don't use someone else's comb/brush ?
that's a good lesson to learn.

the article is too vague to comment further as i can see this easily exceeding the boundaries presented.


Your right the article is vague But this is sex ed we are talking about not personal hygiene which they already teach - Personal Safety will be about using condoms - Anatomy, No kids are not taught details about the human reproductive system at this age - healthy relationships in this day means sleep with anyone yo want as long as you use protection - gender confused kids, How do you know the state will not encourage homosexuality to these kids who are Clearly way too young to even think of such things.

No I don't like it one bit. I vote we should Nuke Chicago LOL.

But if you need to call Chicago to warn your friends before we nuke them you can check my sig file to learn how to make free long distance and get a free 2nd phone line. :-) That was shameless I know but that thread needs attention LOL.



posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 11:08 PM
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and, you were personally advised of the curriculum ??
if so and you have a copy, care to share ?

if not, then save your extremes for the extremists





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