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posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 09:43 AM
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To the OP - errr.. the word hypocrite comes to mind.

On to the topic of your post, were the United States of America so pure and innocent it would not be so vilified on these very forums, the comments are in large justified and the target of these comments is not the American populace per se, albeit that some of your inhabitants do lend themselves to be targets with their staggering ignorance.

We only need look at the posts directly below yours (I didn't go any further) to see that it is not just non-Americans who despise the current state that America is in.

If there was just a little less self obsessed arrogance and "'Murica" mindset then it would help no end, furthermore if there was an end to the continued political support of Israel and wars which are known to be purely about money, I think there may be a shift in people's view points.

However the puerile nature of your post is suffocating and only continues to fuel the flames since you profess to dislike the criticism but act in the exact same boorish manner that has now become a stereotype for peoples from that part of the world.

The expression that is relevant is: "If the shoe fits, wear it"

If you're not happy, stand up, grab your gun and march on Washington!

I am bemused as to why this is not in the rants section, it has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with pimple popping dick swinging.

T
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posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 09:45 AM
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Well I kinda like your avatar you have atm. The one you had up from the Dear Hunter was good too...

Regards

Purp



posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 10:05 AM
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Thank's I got worried the deer hunter violated the T/C's that was the one I was really thinking about.

Have a good day.



posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 12:07 PM
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Originally posted by Tarzan the apeman.
No more aid to people who need it for anything (we should be taking care of our own anyways).


And that is the issue. I can't live like that. If a person is requesting help and really needs it..its my general instinct to help. Principles.

I don't have a religion..I can't just say that some deity will pop in and help them out and then proceed to ignore them..for all we know, this is the only existence they will feel..and in that, it is the responsibility of those with means to help, if we can.



posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 01:07 PM
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reply to post by sulaw
 

I said this in another thread a while ago and it still applies:


I admired the "old" United States as a beacon of light for the free world.

But the U.S. lost her way. The former home of the brave and land of the free doesn't exist anymore.

I feel that escpecially as a friend of the United States it's our obligation to criticize.

So nowadays being "Pro-American" sometimes might appear as being "Anti-American".

Hats off to the U.S. veterans in this thread who get it. Good to see.

OT:
There is alot the U.S. could learn from some Nations (especially the nordic Nations) who still do good in the grim economic situation the world is facing nowadays.

Even recalling where your own beloved country comes from would help her a ton IMO.
NOT changing course and clinging to the lost idea of U.S. exceptionalism won't make it better...
open your eyes OP, you need all the criticism you can get.
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posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 01:08 PM
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Originally posted by sulaw

These other countries kill there own very well on a daily basis without our help, and I don't condone what our gov't has done on any level. I will however still defend my right to free speech and tell all the negative posters enough is enough. Guess this isn't getting moved after all and it's contents is justified calling the kettle black as well. Star for you and the other Military man in thread, as I support our troops not our gov't and what this country used to stand for. Still it's the country I reside in, and these are the feelings these posters bring out. Sorry if it sounds like a Rant but it's far from it. Have a beautiful day indeed sir~


I don't find it negative at all to acknowledge a truth. I'm the child of a career Army officer and spent a large part of my youth over seas on military bases. I agree with the vets that have shared their experience of the injustice that the US Government & Military imposes on other cultures.

Usually in the name of 'security', we terrorize and denegrate other populations and the end result is the creation of even more 'terrorists'.

People of other cultures often enjoy and admire individual US citizens; they like our plain speaking, naive openness. But what they don't like is the arrongance and ignorance that we demonstrate collectively through government, business and military intervention.

The United States and it's Citizens are not better than anyone else, we don't have a 'divine' mission to make the rest of the world into 'our image'. That is what is hated - Arrogance and Ignorance.
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posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 01:17 PM
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Good God Americans are whiney. Your country constantly bashes everyone who isn't American. Then you cry like a bitch when you get a little back. Suck it up.



posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 01:30 PM
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Originally posted by sulaw
Though this is not a political issue however it's still calling the kettle black~

Your boring rhetoric of the condition of the United States and how we should conduct our business is well worn out. Factually, what makes your country so great? Please enlighten this American? Please tell ATS what your country is doing to better the world? Tell me what your country is doing to fix the Economic problems that's not just in the US but has engulfed the world? Tell me please~! You call us murderer's, hardly. If one person actions could speak for the whole, I can make some pretty nasty assumptions about you people and the counries you reside in as well. In fact your negativity only breeds negativity, unless that's what you wanted your doing a great job with it!~ Bravo for being the prime example of how not to conduct yourself! This young American comends your blatent ignorance!

Tell me why, if we are so bad that we still have immigrants coming in by the 1000's every day because YOUR COUNTRY is a litteral dictatorship and can't provide it's citizens with the means to be healthy/happy/free? Doesn't matter the form of the listed it's still present in the US.

I can understand your hatred to the US.... I would hate us too, if I made asanine assumptions about another country.

Hey I have an Idea, instead of talking about how bad the US is, make your posts worth while and show us and LEAD BY EXAMPLE not exemplify the fact that you hate a country you think you know but infact know NOTHING ABOUT!~

Mods feel free to move this where ever your little hearts desire, though if you can see the kettle and trends happening via thread you already know it's black and deserves to be in this thread.

A sincerlly disgusted member salutes everyone who has made a derrogatory comment about America! LONG LIVE FREEEEEEEDOM! And enjoy that landmass you live in, I hope your more productive in your current job profession than the words of negativity that leek from your mouths on this site. (For lack of better words)

That is all, go back to your hater comments and continue being the way you are because it's obvious you lack the will to change anything in the simplest of form.

Oh yea.... Amen.


i have never saw any complaints about America well not its people, like the UK the EU, Australia, Canada, Israel etc,
Its the people in power that make the rules that the rest of us live by, Congress/ house Of Commons etc.

All people of every country are being attacked by the elite and their foot soldiers that swing battens willy nilly at people with legitimate protests.

So don't take it personally if you country is bad mouthed as its not the people but the rulers who bought your democracy and is making your country into what it is.

The USA like the UK are hated around the world just now and with justification, we have no respect for lives and have killed hundred of thousands of innocent people on lies.

What surprises me is that you take this personally, as if you believe your rulers are making just decisions and should be above reproach.

If people are disgusted with the actions of any country including their own they have every right to bad mouth that country.

Im from the UK, I dont hate my country' my country hates me.



posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 01:49 PM
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I'm going to pick on the OP a bit. Not for content but on form.

Upon first reading I didn't understand what was being said.....


Originally posted by sulaw
Though this is not a political issue however it's still calling the kettle black~



This is giberish - "If it is not a political issue" what is is? Perhaps "calling the kettle black"? What has one to do with the other? Who are you addressing? A Kettle? That's calling WHAT black?



Your boring rhetoric...

Mine, ours, who's rhetoric? (Definition of RHETORIC: the art of speaking or writing effectively -- from Webster).




of the condition of the United States and how we should conduct our business is well worn out.



'boring' and 'well worn out' is redundant and I still don't know what the heck you are talking about.




Factually, what makes your country so great?


Who's country? Any country other then the USA, then please say so.



Please enlighten this American? Please tell ATS what your country is doing to better the world? Tell me what your country is doing to fix the Economic problems that's not just in the US but has engulfed the world? Tell me please~!


Thank you, some indication of what point, I think you are trying to make. Being a US citizen, I'm not qualified to answer - but could name several examples, but that's another post.



You call us murderer's, hardly. If one person actions could speak for the whole, I can make some pretty nasty assumptions about you people and the counries you reside in as well. In fact your negativity only breeds negativity, unless that's what you wanted your doing a great job with it!~ Bravo for being the prime example of how not to conduct yourself! This young American comends your blatent ignorance!



You don't say who is calling us (US citizens, the government, the military, what) 'murders' and then go on to state "if one person's actions...." Well one person's actions Don't Speak to The Whole, except when you accuse the Whole World of .... what is it exactly?

"This young American (arrogant assumption of an inaccurate title for a US citizen, there are dozens of other American Countries that I assume you include in YOU) commends you blatent ignorance. Ignorance of WHAT - ignorance of correct grammer and writing? Ignorance of history and culture? or just ignorance of your individual importance?




Tell me why, if we are so bad that we still have immigrants coming in by the 1000's every day because YOUR COUNTRY is a litteral dictatorship and can't provide it's citizens with the means to be healthy/happy/free? Doesn't matter the form of the listed it's still present in the US.



Again, WHO are you talking about?




I can understand your hatred to the US.... I would hate us too, if I made asanine assumptions about another country.



And you are making assumptions about the rest of the world and showing us a prime example of why other people in other nations tend to dislike and pity the Collective USA mindset. Ignorance and arrogance.




Hey I have an Idea, instead of talking about how bad the US is, make your posts worth while and show us and LEAD BY EXAMPLE not exemplify the fact that you hate a country you think you know but infact know NOTHING ABOUT!~



Pot calling Kettle Black, much? Methinks the lady doth protest too much.

Setting good example about, so called, Americans, check! Example of ignorance and arrogance, check!




Mods feel free to move this where ever your little hearts desire, though if you can see the kettle and trends happening via thread you already know it's black and deserves to be in this thread.

A sincerlly disgusted member salutes everyone who has made a derrogatory comment about America! LONG LIVE FREEEEEEEDOM! And enjoy that landmass you live in, I hope your more productive in your current job profession than the words of negativity that leek from your mouths on this site. (For lack of better words)

That is all, go back to your hater comments and continue being the way you are because it's obvious you lack the will to change anything in the simplest of form.

Oh yea.... Amen.


Ever here of projection?

I dream of Freedom from drivel....

Peace



posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 02:16 PM
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You've said pretty much everything I was going to say. The problem isnt America, because thats made up of Americans who I;ve always found to be good hearted people, if a bit brash and naive by UK standards. The problem is 'Politicians' and its a world wide problem- a new race of people whose sole motivation is power and wealth, and who are prepared to do secret deals with big companies and start illegal wars to get more of it.

The only difference between America and say Zimbabwe, is that in America you can still criticise the government without your testicles being connected to a car battery, so people do-but really, its the government they are criticising, not the Country.
I'd never criticise the UK (where I live) or USA (where my brother lives)-Politicians might have killed our reputation, but they havent killed our spirit.



posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 02:18 PM
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This actually turned into an interesting thread
Seeing how some ex military have seen some of the bad policies of our government is eye opening. I have great respect for our military myself and will always support the soldiers themselves for doing their job. Now if we could get decent people in charge of this country it would be good. Trouble is that most of these politicians have been conditioned to see things a certain way. I have no clue how to fix this, maybe the government is planning to shoot their way out of debt. I'm not worried about things I cannot change, I'm just a mouse as many are, living amongst giants in the world. I am still able to poop in their dishes once in a while though



posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 02:50 PM
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Constructive criticism comes from caring, destructive criticism comes from hate.

I think the american government run by democrats and republicans deserves lots of criticism wherever it is warranted. I do see lots of silly "controlled opposition" threads though.



posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 03:17 PM
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Originally posted by torqpoc
reply to post by sulaw
 


To the OP - errr.. the word hypocrite comes to mind.

On to the topic of your post, were the United States of America so pure and innocent it would not be so vilified on these very forums, the comments are in large justified and the target of these comments is not the American populace per se, albeit that some of your inhabitants do lend themselves to be targets with their staggering ignorance.

We only need look at the posts directly below yours (I didn't go any further) to see that it is not just non-Americans who despise the current state that America is in.

If there was just a little less self obsessed arrogance and "'Murica" mindset then it would help no end, furthermore if there was an end to the continued political support of Israel and wars which are known to be purely about money, I think there may be a shift in people's view points.

However the puerile nature of your post is suffocating and only continues to fuel the flames since you profess to dislike the criticism but act in the exact same boorish manner that has now become a stereotype for peoples from that part of the world.

The expression that is relevant is: "If the shoe fits, wear it"

If you're not happy, stand up, grab your gun and march on Washington!

I am bemused as to why this is not in the rants section, it has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with pimple popping dick swinging.

T
edit on 2-3-2013 by torqpoc because: (no reason given)


Exactly. I feel the same way! Some people are either too sensitive or they play "the victim card" to get them out of trouble. Either way its boring as hell. I could have listed the same reasons you provided and more but after a while even the walls get tired of the repetition.



posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 03:46 PM
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Uhm... Excuse me?
What are we (America) best at?

I mean, besides delusion.



posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 03:59 PM
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Its OK man. Let them bash us.

We know who will be begging for help when their country has problems.

Personally I can't stand it but that is how it is.

Our political ideals stink but we as a people are unstoppable. That is why we are still here.



posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 04:21 PM
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Anti-American is not the issue, I guess its more Anti-I don't belive what the hell is going on in Washington and you are making us suffer because you cant get your heads out of you *sses.

I Retired 20 years active duty in Combat Arms, I was Stationed in such part of the world that could of gone to *hit such as Germany (Cold War), Korea (Kim Ill Sungs Death) Gulf War and all the crap in between. But not once did I ever feel Anti American. I am now to the point were I feel are we doing the right thing or not, should we be there or just leave, then we have those like Hilary Clinton and now John Kerry that are going to make a mess of everything and promise everyone support from the United States.

I am tired of Supporting other contries that Burn our flag, but call Foul when we burn the Karan (SP) or we poke fun at some one in a political cartoon. or burn a image of our President, but we still support them.

LETS GET REAL, We are proud Americans that are tired of the Liberal Ways and we want to be able to be proud of who we are and what we stand for.......What ever that may be....if you don't like the American ways move back to your contrie of origian and don't complain...just be quiet and don't exspect the US people to give a *hit about you..
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posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 04:28 PM
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OMFG OP (and many below) you are hilarious! Blaming the ignorance of "them" in "those other countries". If you could just put yourself in the shoes of someone abroad (from your point of view) than you would realize your post doesn't make any sense the way you direct it toward the audience. "Their fredoom" - are you talking to some imaginary north-korean guy?
Look there is always something to blame, about the US, about its politics... Guess why that is. I tell you why: Because there always is something to blame, and rightfully so. Whether it is politics or economics and now the big NEWSFLASH for you ignorant crybaby: Not only "US" politics and not only "US" economics! The reason you perceive it that way is because you consume US news and read on US fora. Don't you think people complain about other countries too? Blame their politics? Of course they do, but because, god forbid I use that stereotype, are an ignorant american you know nothing about it. So you think it's you vs "those other countires". Lol you made my day, I hope "those ignorant foreigners" stop commenting on # they have no business with. Greetings from abroad!



posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 04:41 PM
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Sorry, I can't help myself;



......but we as a people are unstoppable.




It's quite obvious you just don't get it do you, and I suspect never will.



That is why we are still here.


Still where?

Lot's of 'people' and nations are still here - and have been for quite some length of time - what exactly is your point?
edit on 2/3/13 by Freeborn because: fix quote



posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 05:52 PM
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That was a rant, but I do wonder what your idea of "FREEDOM" is and in what way you think you're free?



posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 06:00 PM
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Why isn't the OP telling Americans to STFU about world issues? But he has a problems with foreigners talking about America?


He's probably one of those Americans that mouth off about other nations






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