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Originally posted by wewillnotcomply666
Correct me if I am wrong. The average wage for an adult in Australia is $16.00 to $20.00 an hour. We have too many people here making around $10.00 an hour. This is a tax against poor people. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad you Aussies make a living wage, but this is not an apples to apples situation.
So you think cigarettes should cost more to people that earn more? How is that fair?
Yes i agree it is a tax against poor people but when your only payin like 7 dollars average for a pack , get over it . I heard one member say something about a pack for a dolla something??!! wtf ??!!
Originally posted by ellbell
No sympathy.. if you are struggling with a low income and high taxes..WHY THE HELL WASTE IT ON SMOKES... your pretty much burning your money away
Originally posted by generik
unfortunately i AM like many others ADDICTED to the dammed things. sure there seems to be a small percentage of people who find it easy to quit, but for most of us quitting is a dream we are not likely to see come true. i don't know HOW MANY TIMES i have tried to quit and had it fail. hell even HAVING NO INCOME at all, i was not able to quit. i NEEDED my FIX. so what do you do when you have no cash but need a smoke? you bum a few, you beg a few dollars to buy cigarette tubes, then re-roll your cigarette butts, when you run out of cigarette butts, you pick them up of the street, when you run out of cigarette tubes you make a pipe to smoke the tobacco, even trying to re-use your old filters on it to try to stay as safe as you can. when you get your hands on money CIGARETTES COME FIRST, even FOOD is second place, because you NEED the SMOKE.
Originally posted by AmberLeaf
Originally posted by superman2012
reply to post by Wrabbit2000
In Canada, in my opinion, the thinking is that higher taxes on smokes are justified by the average smoker needing medical services because of smoking. Once you don't have smokers, you will have lower numbers of smoking related diseases coming into the hospitals.
In a perfect world at least.
In our world, they will probably find something else that is unhealthy and tax the bejeebus out of it...they better leave my steaks alone!
Both my grandparnets have smoked since 15 years old, they are both in their late 80, with NO cancer of anykind or any other medical condition that could be attributed to smoking.
I know smoking isnt great for our bodies, but evidence kind of suggests that not everyone is effected in the same why by smoking. Some people get cancer, others dont. Could it be, its not the smoking giving everyone cancer? Could it be its just a huge cashcow with many many different parts of the business?
OR it could be that the tobacco people used to smoke wasnt filled with as many harmful drugs/poisons and chemicals to keep them burning. My grandad smokes roll ups, has done for over 70 years, he hasnt even got a smokers cough lol.
Its like all these anti smoking aids, whats the point? They are equally as expensive, and dont break the habit...they just make you feel better because you can say "i gave up smoking", you will be hooked on them as long as you would have been hooked to the real thing.(Thats not pointed at you, just a general comment)
Originally posted by AmberLeaf
Originally posted by dc4lifeskater
quit smoking or grow ur own tobacco.
How? Tobacco is legal because...its not viable for the normal person to grow it, [SNIP]
I wouldnt be able to grow enough tobacco to sustain my habit, and the big business and governments know this.
A plant yields about 35g, and takes 4-5 months to cultivate.edit on 1-3-2013 by elevatedone because: (no reason given)