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Vatican Prophecy, the End of Religion, and Shift to Universal Consciousness

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posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 02:50 AM
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The reason I went against their advice and posted this to you was not to be rude, or hurtful in any way, but because I did experience a genuine sense of 'sadness' when they spoke of you which I did not enjoy. If you are aware of any truth in what they told me, or it was your sadness that I felt, then I honest do hope you do find some help, or a happiness within your life, as I would hate to be familiar with what I felt.

On the other hand, if you are in actual fact genuine in everything you have said and it is in reality me who is the a 'victim' who is being deceived, then you will no doubt realise that I meant you no offense.


Nice and gentle response BornOfSin. I read your introductory thread and was patiently waiting and I guess you have my attention now.

I have one simple question please.
If a person happens to "encounter" this "light of life" as you call it (as in maybe an OBE or NDE), how does that person get "back" to it at will?




posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 02:59 AM
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You are correct and I have nothing against the bible or muhuaburratta or the koran or any ancient text. There is truth in all of them but a lot of changes as well. It's the guys in charge which I have had a problem. In a lot of my incarnations I have thought them with the other pa-tal.

As far as reptilian races. The annunaki are a smaller reptilian race. The dracos are large built reptilians, the greys there is a few zeta reticulians and the greys from Orion in bellatrix and Rigel.



posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 03:12 AM
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OP, IMPORTANT:

First, I just want to thank you for sharing this amazingly compiled event.


I have been studying and researching the current subject matter for the last 10 years of my life, and have drawn the same conclusions (like many others) except for 2 major discrepancies:

1) I have drawn my conclusion through reading and research, whereas you have reached yours through visitation. (with a share of research no doubt)

2) I believe the "annunaki" are evil, whereas you believe they are good

In Sumerian lore, which mirrors much of the bible, the Gods (annunaki) had very human like faults and qualities (greed, lust, envy...). They created humans, in their image, to work the land and suffer the burdens of labour. We were a slave race and unaware of what we are and how we came to be. One such chief God, ENKI, took pity on us humans and raised up against the other Gods in our defense and helped free the human race.
ENKI was from the real brotherhood of the snake. That's why, in the bible, ENKI is depicted as the snake bringing Adam and Eve the fruit (knowledge, self-awareness).
The "annunaki" have since corrupted the original brotherhood of the snake (making them the corrupt brotherhood) and the church and the original scriptures making out ENKI (the snake) to be evil. The "Annunaki" warned that they would come back to reclaim what was there's.

2) Every whitleblower, conspiracy theorist and mainstream depiction of the "annunaki" is in an evil way, they are never the good guys. Pres. Bush has even been accused of being a reptilian. I have not read any accounts of reptillians having good intentions or being good natured at all.

3) Planetary resonance.
I believe our conciousness will progress to another level and that time is coming soon. However, I don't believe the "annunaki" will be ushering it in. I believe that our planets resonance affects our DNA directly and this conscious energy is changing how the planet works, how it functions, and what kind of life it supports. The harmonics of the DNA spiral itself are altering. That’s the real, hidden cause of spontaneous mass evolutions in previous epochs. (planetary resonance) I believe this is caused by solar systems position in the heavens and is not something that can be "brought" in. (our solar system is moving in the universe) Mayan calendar was designed for this not an epoch countdown.

4) I personally, think the " annunaki" are the "illuminati"...they built the pyramids, the now symbol of the oppressor, the "Illuminati". Take out your one dollar bills...there she is.
I believe (as do other researchers) that the planet belongs to the "annunaki" and we to them. They keep our planet hidden from other races and it is known not to travel here...and they are coming back.
There is a very well researched book on this exact premise entitled, Gods Of Eden by William Bramley.

An honest response would be great OP, for I am concerned with recent events and your story. I truly feel something is goin to happen and do many others (just look at the thread, waiting game) I just hope for all our sakes that I am wrong on this one...

Thanks again OP, peace.

Edit: They have always been in contact with humans throughout history, but only to confuse people in their beliefs. Think of all the people, innocent people who suddenly have visitations by "aliens" or "multi-dimensional" beings who promise future wonders or visits on grand scales, but never happen.
Remember the OP around December? The one who's mother came on video and told the world that one the 21st half the planet would ascend...it's made to confuse and the pick the innocent and believable.
Maybe, they told you as a further attempt to usher themselves in as the good guys...just speculating.
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posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 03:13 AM
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good read.

But... going from 80 to 8... I mean, being a catholic and all of a sudden turn atheist, its just not really the way... you just went from one extreme to the other.

To be a pure religious person is stupid and to be a pure skeptical ignoring everything around you that doesnt have a scientific explanation is also... well stupid.

But religions and atheists are the black and white of a long spectrum of gray scale... I think theres a place somewhere in between more... well balanced.



posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 03:21 AM
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Sorry my friend I did have a hard start in this life but did not create these personas my friend also go and check akasha then my friend. I did not mean to make you upset in any way. The dark ones are good at making you feel correct. If you are talking with them ask them who the pa-tal is then. I meant no dis regard look at it from the top. We are both Australians which are 33. You quoted Matthew in your writings and claim the annunaki are working for the good. In 1994 they signed the end of the charter but still have not really helped any of the good federations. I feel we were meant to have this discussion my friend to help raise unity consciousness. Please don't think I was against you my friend I feel we were destined to meet

Love Matthew



posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 03:26 AM
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posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 03:27 AM
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Frennzy444 aka Mathew. If you are who you claim, why is your spelling and grammar so bad?



posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 03:30 AM
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"HIGHER HUMAN CONSCIOUSNESS"

I stopped reading there. Seriously, look around you. Do you see even the start of a "higher human consciousness"?



posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 03:34 AM
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Originally posted by Redfreak
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Wow! This is a very interesting thread indeed! I was also of a Christian faith up
until a few years ago. I got fed up with the Churches crumbling and new ones
forming at an alarming rate. IMO that told me that religion was only formed to
scare us, to try and keep us 'in line'....

I have been searching for the 'truth' since and from the info I've gathered from
various sites, especially here in ATS, and from the Bible, your thread here seems
to have a lot of good answers for my feeble mind!
I can hardly wait to read your next post!!


Wait, you got frustrated at the giant apostate churches forming, preaching the message that gain is godliness instead of the truth that godliness and contentment are the gains, teaching it's parishioners to contemplatively pray to experience the "fullness of God's love and fire and oneness", teaching it's flock to seek "experiences of the flesh" instead of the quiet voice of the Lord and teaching it's parishioners that there is a "new way" to have mystical experiences, and yet you think this person on ATS having visions and voices in his vain imagination, preaching the upcoming "oneness" etc is telling you something different?


Deut 13:1-3 (NIV) "If a prophet, or one who foretells by dreams, appears among you and announces to you a miraculous sign or wonder, and if the sign or wonder of which he has spoken takes place, and he says, 'Let us follow other gods' (gods you have not known) 'and let us worship them,' you must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer. The Lord your God is testing you to find out whether you love him with all your heart and with all your soul."

Jer 9:2-6 (NIV) "...For they are all adulterers, a crowd of unfaithful people. They make ready their tongue like a bow, to shoot lies; it is not by truth that they triumph in the land. They go from one sin to another; they do not acknowledge me," declares the Lord. "Beware of your friends; do not trust your brothers. For every brother is a deceiver, and every friend a slanderer. Friend deceives friend, and no one speaks the truth... You live in the midst of deception; in their deceit they refuse to acknowledge me," declares the Lord.

Isa 30:9-11,15 (NIV) These are rebellious people, deceitful children, children unwilling to listen to the Lord's instruction. They say to the seers, "See no more visions!" and to the prophets, "Give us no more visions of what is right! Tell us pleasant things, prophesy illusions. Leave this way, get off this path, and stop confronting us with the Holy One of Israel!" This is what the Sovereign Lord, the Holy One of Israel says: "In repentance and rest is your salvation, in quietness and trust is your strength, but you would have none of it."



posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 03:43 AM
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You were correct enki was an annunaki. At that time I was Nergal the cabal story books will say I was a demon. At that time Enlil and I fought them but we lived for thousands of years then so eventually they started unravelling stuff. Let me throw another big one for you Enlil is Vishnu. Vishnu is Krishna. He was also Zeus, he was also Odin. For the op talking to the dark let me tell you why Vishnu and shiva are draw blue in drawing etc and remember this started because you were talking about Catholics Etc. I'm going to go further and link up. When man came your sangrit colour times your shade times your star system leads to skin tone. The 8d plieades stars are blue in colour hence when they first came here they were blue and the annunaki was not here in those days okay. This was a few hundred thousand years ago when the pa-tal started to live with earth. Some were born here in 8d earth like when I was Arjuna.
So you have an answer for my so called personas, why would I pick nergal as your fake history books say I was a demon like they are saying I am sad boy who made it in my teens. I was born awake remember.
Their points also can't answer how I know this higher dimensional info.
Do you want me to go some later incarnations?
Or how about some on other planets? You missed out Egypt. Ask the annunaki about the Aesir a d paschats as well as they are afraid of them.
Love Matthew



posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 03:45 AM
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As I am typing on an iPhone and they change the typing, do you want me to jump on my pc lol



posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 03:49 AM
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Exactly the bringer of light or Lucifer the light bearer as masons call him



posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 03:57 AM
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But guys lucifer was his name when he lost his arch angel rank. He is Luciel when the almighty forgave him.



posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 04:21 AM
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"Archons?" Oh please... Nothing more than fallen angels -- bewitching mankind with forbidden knowledge. One need look no further than the book of Enoch... Bunch of egotistical, power-hungry fallen angels. Jealous of how powerful GOD is -- purposely leading mankind to its own downfall out of spite. How cute it is they want to play the role as "ascended masters" now -- from "another galaxy" -- like they're important and mysterious now hahah.



posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 04:27 AM
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Not going to assume your crazy but what you are saying sounds insane. I believe in a lot of the entities you speak of but I have known them to be fallen angels, watchers, nephilim, and demonic beings. If you can prove to me you are who you say you are than by all means send me a private message with some proof.
I have been just about every christian / catholic denomination and even got sucked into the new age theosophic crap for a while. All for the pursuit of the truth . Some how some way i have always found my way back to the almighty creator, with the help of Jesus.

You would have a very hard time convincing me about reincarnation though i find it to be quite ridiculous.



posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 04:38 AM
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I keep hearing these numbers and "in our lifetimes" estimates, but I am getting worried nothing is actually on the horizon, and being continually given something to expect and perhaps hope for, and then having it not materialize is actually just a form of torment for us all since we are actually all in Hell.


through this entire thread...and i have read all so far...this is the one bit i can pull out and know few truer words....

This is the state of confusion that is purposefully design to keep the human race under the guise of false gods and prophets alike.

It is all for control...and for keeping mankind locked into to slavery....for what purpose or greater good is yet to be discovered....but just ask yourself...for what purpose has my own life been created.....what is the purpose of me...the Individual.....Why do i exist?.

The real questions that humans need to ask themselves...."whom is it that we FEED"....the world is parasitic so what parasites are living off of our existence..Do we actually think we have any...one bit, Of purpose in our existence other than for the pleasures of others.

Would the world moralistically be any more corrupt than it already is without religion...or is it religion itself that breeds this corruptness so that we are always truly led to believe our demise is always just around the corner...the purpose is to fill us so full of fear from the unknown so that we are kept in this perpetual darkness and we can never reach the light,,,,,,We the people lock ourselves into our own world of darkness by feeding the negative and therefore never ever being able to reach the positive....So if the Vatican is keeping secrets from the people that would allow us this transition towards the light...then we the people should always be asking for what purpose would they do this....when that answers comes...then we as a race of beings can then reach for the sky;.


or the real truth could always be....# HAPPENS.





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posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 04:39 AM
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Originally posted by KamaSutra
Religion is mostly adhering to what a personified "God" ordered.

Univeral consciousness is even at the namesake, obviously more wholesome and.. universal.

As for prophecies, arent Christians totally against all sorts of divination/fortune-telling?

So yes,I think this one is a case of self fulfilling prophesy for humanity advanced from paganism to religion "morality" to universal morality.

Only time will tell. How soon will this happen? I mean, isnt the Vatican the richest country, per capita?


Pantheism is the theology of modern paganism. It's a reversion to "god in all". We aren't progressing, we are reverting. It's why we see pyramids everywhere. It is reverting back to the belief that everything has a divine spark. The "gods" were viewed as ones who needed appeasement through sacrifices. It's why the women today walk into an abortion clinic and sacrifice their babies in hopes of convenience, better careers and more money. They are sacrificing yet cannot see that there is no difference to the peasant woman offering up her baby on the alter to the god of rain to gain a better harvest. The 'universal morality' will be death. This is what happens to mankind in the image of Adam. It happened at the flood, at Babel, at Judea and today. We assume God's role and sit in his temple declaring ourselves to be God. The innocent, babies, infirm, disabled and poor will be shown no mercy by mankind who become ruthless savages who exalt themselves. All of which is the direct result of the mystery of iniquity. The "man of perdition" is here and his false prophets, like this OP, are preaching from their pulpits the world over. Humans who succumb to the erroneous belief that they are immortal and creators destroy the world, and they show zero mercy as they adopt Cain's attitude "Am I my brother's keeper"? Do you not notice the hatred expressed at the elderly, the disdain for unborn life, the marginalization of ordinary and exaltation of beauty, the value placed on intellectualism and the mockery of "stupid", the attempts to portray the poor as all thieves and the rich as aspirations, the indoctrination that man is a parasite and nature is queen....it is nothing more than human defined "love" without one drop of charity. Love does no harm in your Creator's eyes, yet the love today kills, destroys and marginalises "undesirables".

Jesus Christ has given us all the Truth for He is the Truth. Every page of scriptures shows the inherent wickedness and iniquity within us. It is only the Holy Spirit on Earth which has delayed the inevitable return to paganism, lifting the conditions world wide so that salvation to man could come. But at the end of the millennium, today, the world is consumed by its lusts yet again. Those lusts want the Roman circuses,want the bloodlust of gladiatorial fighting, wants the innocents and helpless thrown to the lions and wants to slaughter its infants, but above all, it wants the message that we are "gods" to be true and it wants the truth that Our Creator will judge them to be false.

An absolute travesty that man can actually think that the pinnacle of his existence is such thinking and behaviour. This is why many want this false prophet to be true.



posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 05:06 AM
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Originally posted by Lingweenie
I myself am not religious, I pretty much never been, even from a young age. I never accepted christianity (which is the dominant religion in my area.)

I would consider myself an atheist, but I do accept the fact that there may be a god. However, I don't think that "god" is an actual physical being that created everything out of nothing. I tend to believe more that there is some sort of universal force that governs the universe. Kind of like gravity, it is a universal force in which dictates the motion and revolving of star/planets. Except this force is much greater of course. There has to be SOMETHING out there that dictates how the universe operates.



Stop and consider why you unknowingly hold occult and Kaballah (Jewish mysticism) beliefs? Who gave them to you? How did they give them to you? How do you not recognise that devious men taught you this belief without you even realising it? And now that you "believe" what they do, are you not primed mentally to accept any and all evidence that they present to you? Can you not sense that every minute of time that you have watched tv and film and listened to songs that it has been nothing more than their "holy books" being preached to you? The beast makes the image speak. These go into your mind. You assume them as your own beliefs. You then act on them. And yet, you have probably never opened the Talmud which states that Jesus Christ swims in excrement or was the son of a whore or that their god is an unknowable "force"......So you stating that you have "never accepted Christianity" is nothing surprising. One, you don't accept it but rather it is the God of Heaven and Earth, the Creator of all, that grants belief to you and two, why wouldn't you reject it like all occultists and Jews who themselves read those despicable blasphemous books? You've already had them read and preached to you over thousands and thousands of hours without you even knowing it. This is exactly why so many are responding positively to this false prophet and why they "sense truth" in his words. Unfortunately, they have no understanding that the beliefs have already been indoctrinated into them and the same ones who did so are now rolling out "evidence" which just reinforces the false truths that they've already been given. Insidious and deceptive. Proving a lie as truth.



posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 05:22 AM
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BOS

I still hope you are taking everything they tell you with a grain of salt.

There is no such thing as faster than light travel by the way. Their method of travelling is inter/extra-dimensionally....in which case time does not exist and there is no such thing as distance in their realm.

I've read a fair bit now and am starting to get a better picture....but I am still certain that it is, again, just one entity pretending to be different entities, if you are really experiencing this.

No matter how real this feels I assure you that they are giving you this info to spread yet more disinfo....

This is how I feel, I could be wrong and will always be open-minded to the possibility that my instinct is incorrect, but they are the puppetmasters, and have been so for many thousands of years. They feed on negative energy, on fear, on sexual energy...and they will continue to do so for as long as we let them.



posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 05:23 AM
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Originally posted by nenothtu
First, I do believe the OP has been in contact with something. What that "something" is is open to question, however. I find some of what is said to be likely what is to be found when one peels back the veneer of reality, so I have no doubt there was an actual contact of some sort. Where it goes off the rails is with mention of "Annunaki", "Nibiru", Reptilians" and Grays" - things of that nature, and their attempt to associate themselves with what could be termed as "angels of light" or, in the words of the OP, "the Sons of God".

The reader may believe as they will - it's not my job to convince them otherwise. Christian types ought to keep in mind, however, that "Lucifer" means "bringer of light", and that at one point even Lucifer stood in the Counsel of the Holy. One of his favorite tricks these days seems to be to present himself to be continuing that relationship even in the wake of it's severance.

The OP is not at fault - he's only carrying a message. Who that message originates from should be the primary concern for evaluation,


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For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie. 2 Thessalonians 2:11

It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. Hebrews 10:31


"Lucifer" is not Satan. He was a man. In the garden of Eden. Humanity is IN Adam, not IN JESUS CHRIST.



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