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The reason I went against their advice and posted this to you was not to be rude, or hurtful in any way, but because I did experience a genuine sense of 'sadness' when they spoke of you which I did not enjoy. If you are aware of any truth in what they told me, or it was your sadness that I felt, then I honest do hope you do find some help, or a happiness within your life, as I would hate to be familiar with what I felt.
On the other hand, if you are in actual fact genuine in everything you have said and it is in reality me who is the a 'victim' who is being deceived, then you will no doubt realise that I meant you no offense.
Originally posted by Redfreak
reply to post by BornOfSin
Wow! This is a very interesting thread indeed! I was also of a Christian faith up
until a few years ago. I got fed up with the Churches crumbling and new ones
forming at an alarming rate. IMO that told me that religion was only formed to
scare us, to try and keep us 'in line'....
I have been searching for the 'truth' since and from the info I've gathered from
various sites, especially here in ATS, and from the Bible, your thread here seems
to have a lot of good answers for my feeble mind!
I can hardly wait to read your next post!!
Deut 13:1-3 (NIV) "If a prophet, or one who foretells by dreams, appears among you and announces to you a miraculous sign or wonder, and if the sign or wonder of which he has spoken takes place, and he says, 'Let us follow other gods' (gods you have not known) 'and let us worship them,' you must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer. The Lord your God is testing you to find out whether you love him with all your heart and with all your soul."
Jer 9:2-6 (NIV) "...For they are all adulterers, a crowd of unfaithful people. They make ready their tongue like a bow, to shoot lies; it is not by truth that they triumph in the land. They go from one sin to another; they do not acknowledge me," declares the Lord. "Beware of your friends; do not trust your brothers. For every brother is a deceiver, and every friend a slanderer. Friend deceives friend, and no one speaks the truth... You live in the midst of deception; in their deceit they refuse to acknowledge me," declares the Lord.
Isa 30:9-11,15 (NIV) These are rebellious people, deceitful children, children unwilling to listen to the Lord's instruction. They say to the seers, "See no more visions!" and to the prophets, "Give us no more visions of what is right! Tell us pleasant things, prophesy illusions. Leave this way, get off this path, and stop confronting us with the Holy One of Israel!" This is what the Sovereign Lord, the Holy One of Israel says: "In repentance and rest is your salvation, in quietness and trust is your strength, but you would have none of it."
I keep hearing these numbers and "in our lifetimes" estimates, but I am getting worried nothing is actually on the horizon, and being continually given something to expect and perhaps hope for, and then having it not materialize is actually just a form of torment for us all since we are actually all in Hell.
Originally posted by KamaSutra
Religion is mostly adhering to what a personified "God" ordered.
Univeral consciousness is even at the namesake, obviously more wholesome and.. universal.
As for prophecies, arent Christians totally against all sorts of divination/fortune-telling?
So yes,I think this one is a case of self fulfilling prophesy for humanity advanced from paganism to religion "morality" to universal morality.
Only time will tell. How soon will this happen? I mean, isnt the Vatican the richest country, per capita?
Originally posted by Lingweenie
I myself am not religious, I pretty much never been, even from a young age. I never accepted christianity (which is the dominant religion in my area.)
I would consider myself an atheist, but I do accept the fact that there may be a god. However, I don't think that "god" is an actual physical being that created everything out of nothing. I tend to believe more that there is some sort of universal force that governs the universe. Kind of like gravity, it is a universal force in which dictates the motion and revolving of star/planets. Except this force is much greater of course. There has to be SOMETHING out there that dictates how the universe operates.
Originally posted by nenothtu
First, I do believe the OP has been in contact with something. What that "something" is is open to question, however. I find some of what is said to be likely what is to be found when one peels back the veneer of reality, so I have no doubt there was an actual contact of some sort. Where it goes off the rails is with mention of "Annunaki", "Nibiru", Reptilians" and Grays" - things of that nature, and their attempt to associate themselves with what could be termed as "angels of light" or, in the words of the OP, "the Sons of God".
The reader may believe as they will - it's not my job to convince them otherwise. Christian types ought to keep in mind, however, that "Lucifer" means "bringer of light", and that at one point even Lucifer stood in the Counsel of the Holy. One of his favorite tricks these days seems to be to present himself to be continuing that relationship even in the wake of it's severance.
The OP is not at fault - he's only carrying a message. Who that message originates from should be the primary concern for evaluation,
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For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie. 2 Thessalonians 2:11
It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. Hebrews 10:31