A serious question about chemtrails, page 1


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reply posted on 28-2-2013 @ 09:10 PM by Klassified
reply to post by Painfulhead



No such thing as chemtrails. No such thing as chemtrails...

Seriously. Maybe they just never thought to put them in there before.
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reply posted on 28-2-2013 @ 09:14 PM by Hopechest
reply to post by Painfulhead



Technology more than likely. The more stuff on the screen the more processing power and as computers get better they can add more fluff.

Couldn't really handle it ten years ago.



reply posted on 28-2-2013 @ 09:29 PM by Painfulhead
reply to post by Hopechest



they couldnt render clouds?
this has been easly done since the original xbox. i think your answer is wrong. but nice try.


reply posted on 28-2-2013 @ 09:35 PM by _BoneZ_
reply to post by Painfulhead


Lingering contrails. The whole basis of the "chemtrail" disinfo campaign. It's really sad that those on the fence haven't done the most basic amount of research.

Lingering contrails in the 1960's:




Lingering contrails in the 1940's:





Nothing else needs to be said.


reply posted on 28-2-2013 @ 09:54 PM by Klassified
reply to post by _BoneZ_



It's really sad that those on the fence haven't done the most basic amount of research.

What's really sad is that you and others expect that if someone "on the fence" has done their research, they would of necessity, have to reach the same conclusions as you.


reply posted on 28-2-2013 @ 09:58 PM by Painfulhead
reply to post by stars15k



as a home maker weather and cloud expert can you tell me why contrails linger regardless of the conditions? i know that when conditions are right contrails can linger, its just that now over my head very day the conditions are right.every season the conditions are right, night day, that dont seem right.

and as a side note why to jump right in almost like clockwork. you are diligent.
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reply posted on 28-2-2013 @ 10:18 PM by Klassified
reply to post by _BoneZ_



The main basis for the "chemtrail" disinfo campaign is that if a contrail persists, it's a "chemtrail". Since contrails have been persisting for 80+ years, the "persistent contrail = 'chemtrail'" disinformation is just that. And as such, there is only one conclusion to reach.

Agreed. Nevertheless, the fact that contrails can persist is not conclusive evidence that chemtrails don't exist. It is only conclusive evidence that contrails can linger. What is being seen could be either. However, I will concede there is no substantial evidence for chemtrails at this point in time. At least, imo. But to me, both sides of this endless debate have reasonable points, except those who take it to extremes in either direction.

As far as I'm concerned, the possibility is there, whether I want to consider it or not.

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reply posted on 28-2-2013 @ 10:28 PM by Chadwickus
reply to post by Painfulhead



Good point.

Like in earlier racing games, when you hit something, there would be no damage to the car but in new games, there is!

This confirms that 10-15 years ago, real race cars didn't show damage either.

Something fishy for sure....



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reply posted on 28-2-2013 @ 10:56 PM by Galadriel
I am not a 20 something. I've been around a bit. I've always been a "sky watcher" since I was a child. I was fascinated by the sun, moon, stars, seasons, storms, weather and clouds. I studied weather, and kept "logs" as a kid trying to learn how to read the sky to anticipate weather. (I felt like indigenous peoples could read the weather, wind, seas and signs in nature -- and I wanted to be able to do that too - to anticipate what was coming next). I had books about clouds with full color pictures - and talked incessantly to my brother and parents about what kind of cloud was above us and what it meant for tomorrow's forecast.

Unless I was at an airshow, I never saw contrails/chemtrails - whatever -- except for a very tiny, short line behind a jet flying so high I could barely see it. It never left long trails in the sky, and the trail never latest for more than a few minutes and then was gone. This was true my entire life until more recently, when the skies changed.

For the past 10 or more years, the skies are increasing criss crossed with trails that last for hours and hours. They spread, and thin out and look like "thin cloud cover" but it's not true clouds. The number of times I actually see fluffy white cumulus clouds (not big towering cumulus about to turn into rainclouds/thunderstorms) but just happy looking fluffly little clouds that float by on blue-sky days -- the ones we used to paint in our pictures and color in our coloring books -- that number is hardly ever where I live (major metro area).

If you watch movies from the 50s, 60s and even 70s-80s, you'll see outdoor vistas with real cloud formations of all types...real cirrus clouds -- which we don't seem to have anymore -- that would indicate a changing weather pattern, and mackeral clouds, etc.. What looks sort of like cirrus clouds today is simply fanned out "trails" that linger forever it seems. Don't take my word for it. Go look at real photographs of your relatives (or yourself if you are older) from back a few decades - or home movies - or rent a couple old movies with outdoor vistas - and look at the skies. Tell me what you see -- or rather, don't see.

And, now, today, I see on games, kids cartoons, the Disney opening on movies, TV shows, etc. that have trails in the sky. Why? Because it's the new norm.

I noticed the trails, but didn't know what to make of them. And then one day someone mentioned the word "chemtrail" and Dennis Kucinich -- and I looked it up. I have read/studied about clouds, trails and "chemtrails" for years. I do believe something is amiss. I don't claim to know what. I'll never know. But I miss real clouds of my youth -- all the interesting skies. I have so many photographs (one of my passions growing up) of REAL clouds and beautiful sunsets that don't have one single solitary trail in them. (Unless I was taking photos at an airshow.)

My children will only remember trail filled skies. It makes me sad.

Laugh and bash if you want. I just know our once beautiful skies are different these days. I know what I saw growing up. And I know what I see now. What I don't know is what to believe about this.


reply posted on 1-3-2013 @ 02:43 AM by fireyaguns
reply to post by Painfulhead



Chemtrail is an escape goat word for those who deny the truth and the shills that continually start strawman arguments over the chemtrail word.

Arial Geo Engineering is real and changes the whole discussion as we are not talking about chemtrails but Arial geo engineering.

I have seen also more often these last 10 years, children’s movies and cartoons full of Arial geo engineering back grounds, cars is a good example (I am not saying Arial geo engineering has'nt been going on for many many years, most likely over half a centry).
Hollywood has its minders also like all entities, they have been infiltrated by the synagogue of Satan.
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reply posted on 1-3-2013 @ 02:53 AM by Chadwickus
reply to post by fireyaguns



Half a century?

50 years...

Not working very well then is it?

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reply posted on 1-3-2013 @ 03:59 AM by fireyaguns
reply to post by Chadwickus



Not sure what you mean.

What are you talking about not working?

Maybe your here to throw this thread off topic also. We get it friend you don't understand arial geo engineering. Your welcome to start your own theads on contrails.
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reply posted on 1-3-2013 @ 04:10 AM by Chadwickus
reply to post by fireyaguns



Geo-engineering for 50 years.

That is what you said isn't it?

Doesn't appear to be working if that's the case,,,


reply posted on 1-3-2013 @ 04:20 AM by fireyaguns
reply to post by Chadwickus



It appears the dumbing down side of Arial geo engineering is working just fine
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