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The Hidden Sacred Secrets of God – Revealed
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Everyone likes a mystery. What is more, the discerning man who wishes to understand truth peers into the “deep things of God,” to try and
comprehend the profound truths found in his word, to try and discern his will, even learn the secrets that he had at one time keep hidden, and has
only revealed at the proper time.
Of course these mysteries, these “sacred secrets” that have been hidden from times long-lasting are considered foolishness to the physical man, that is, the man with no spiritual discernment, and cannot be known by him. Thus this post will not appease to probably the majority reading it, and that is already understood. If anyone here does not have appreciation for spiritual things, or the Bible, this post will probably not be for you:
(1 Corinthians 2:10) . . .for the spirit searches into all things, even the deep things of God.
(1 Corinthians 2:14) 14 But a physical man does not receive the things of the spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot get to know [them], because they are examined spiritually.
When Jesus came to the earth he revealed the “sacred secret” and expounded upon it. In fact when Jesus’ disciples asked him why he spoke by means of illustrations he explained that he did so because the sacred secrets of which he spoke would be hidden from the person not appreciating spiritual things:
(Mark 4:10-12) . . .Now when he got to be alone, those around him with the twelve began questioning him on the illustrations. 11 And he proceeded to say to them: “To YOU the sacred secret of the kingdom of God has been given, but to those outside all things occur in illustrations, 12 in order that, though looking, they may look and yet not see, and, though hearing, they may hear and yet not get the sense of it, nor ever turn back and forgiveness be given them.”
(Hebrews 12:16) . . .that there may be no fornicator nor anyone not appreciating sacred things, like E′sau, . . .
There in the scripture quoted above in Mark Jesus talked about the “sacred secret” of the kingdom. Why was it sacred, and why was it a secret? And what does it mean?
The “sacred secrets,” or mysteries of God, are not like the hidden mysteries of this world. They are not revealed only to a select few who have been initiated into some occult ritual and are hidden from the rest. Rather sacred secrets of God are hidden from human understanding, and then, when the time is right, Jehovah reveals them to his servants, and then he commissions them to preach about them publically to all who will listen with ears of discernment:
(Matthew 24:14) And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.
These hidden mysteries that God reveals through his word at the proper time are even of great interest of the angels who peer into God’s word to try and understand these things and how they are playing out:
(1 Peter 1:12) . . .Into these very things angels are desiring to peer.
They are sacred because they are holy, and come from Jehovah hos is Holy.
How about you? Are you keen on understanding these sacred secrets and their import for you, and for mankind?
The wonderful sacred secret of God is first and foremost fulfilled in the Messiah. In fact the very first prophecy of scripture as revealed in Genesis 3:15 attests to this fact, and the rest of the scripture interlaces as a harmonious theme that reveals how God gradually has maneuvered human events to fulfill his good-will toward mankind by utilizing this sacred secret. There we are told prophetically:
(Genesis 3:15) And I shall put enmity between you and the woman and between your seed and her seed. He will bruise you in the head and you will bruise him in the heel.”
Here Jehovah God is speaking to the serpent. But we do know that the serpent was not the real intelligence that spoke to Eve. Rather, a spirit creature, who lied, spoke through that serpent. Later on in the Bible, Jehovah reveals who that spirit creature was when we are told:
(Revelation 12:9) So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth;
Yes, Satan was the original serpent. Thus Jehovah told Satan that he would put enmity between him and the “woman.” And between the seed of Satan, the original serpent, and between the seed of the woman. Whom the seed would be that would come from that woman, that would bless all mankind, and eventually give Satan the “head wound” of annihilation was guarded for long-lasting times:
(Romans 16:25) . . .according to the revelation of the sacred secret which has been kept in silence for long-lasting times
cont...
Of course these mysteries, these “sacred secrets” that have been hidden from times long-lasting are considered foolishness to the physical man, that is, the man with no spiritual discernment, and cannot be known by him. Thus this post will not appease to probably the majority reading it, and that is already understood. If anyone here does not have appreciation for spiritual things, or the Bible, this post will probably not be for you:
(1 Corinthians 2:10) . . .for the spirit searches into all things, even the deep things of God.
(1 Corinthians 2:14) 14 But a physical man does not receive the things of the spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot get to know [them], because they are examined spiritually.
When Jesus came to the earth he revealed the “sacred secret” and expounded upon it. In fact when Jesus’ disciples asked him why he spoke by means of illustrations he explained that he did so because the sacred secrets of which he spoke would be hidden from the person not appreciating spiritual things:
(Mark 4:10-12) . . .Now when he got to be alone, those around him with the twelve began questioning him on the illustrations. 11 And he proceeded to say to them: “To YOU the sacred secret of the kingdom of God has been given, but to those outside all things occur in illustrations, 12 in order that, though looking, they may look and yet not see, and, though hearing, they may hear and yet not get the sense of it, nor ever turn back and forgiveness be given them.”
(Hebrews 12:16) . . .that there may be no fornicator nor anyone not appreciating sacred things, like E′sau, . . .
There in the scripture quoted above in Mark Jesus talked about the “sacred secret” of the kingdom. Why was it sacred, and why was it a secret? And what does it mean?
The “sacred secrets,” or mysteries of God, are not like the hidden mysteries of this world. They are not revealed only to a select few who have been initiated into some occult ritual and are hidden from the rest. Rather sacred secrets of God are hidden from human understanding, and then, when the time is right, Jehovah reveals them to his servants, and then he commissions them to preach about them publically to all who will listen with ears of discernment:
(Matthew 24:14) And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.
These hidden mysteries that God reveals through his word at the proper time are even of great interest of the angels who peer into God’s word to try and understand these things and how they are playing out:
(1 Peter 1:12) . . .Into these very things angels are desiring to peer.
They are sacred because they are holy, and come from Jehovah hos is Holy.
How about you? Are you keen on understanding these sacred secrets and their import for you, and for mankind?
The wonderful sacred secret of God is first and foremost fulfilled in the Messiah. In fact the very first prophecy of scripture as revealed in Genesis 3:15 attests to this fact, and the rest of the scripture interlaces as a harmonious theme that reveals how God gradually has maneuvered human events to fulfill his good-will toward mankind by utilizing this sacred secret. There we are told prophetically:
(Genesis 3:15) And I shall put enmity between you and the woman and between your seed and her seed. He will bruise you in the head and you will bruise him in the heel.”
Here Jehovah God is speaking to the serpent. But we do know that the serpent was not the real intelligence that spoke to Eve. Rather, a spirit creature, who lied, spoke through that serpent. Later on in the Bible, Jehovah reveals who that spirit creature was when we are told:
(Revelation 12:9) So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth;
Yes, Satan was the original serpent. Thus Jehovah told Satan that he would put enmity between him and the “woman.” And between the seed of Satan, the original serpent, and between the seed of the woman. Whom the seed would be that would come from that woman, that would bless all mankind, and eventually give Satan the “head wound” of annihilation was guarded for long-lasting times:
(Romans 16:25) . . .according to the revelation of the sacred secret which has been kept in silence for long-lasting times
cont...
The main focus of God’s sacred secret had to do with the “seed of the woman.” It appears that Eve thought that she was the woman in that
prophecy, for when she bore her first son named Cain she stated:
(Genesis 4:1) . . .: “I have produced a man with the aid of Jehovah.”
Yet Eve nor her first son Cain were the woman or the seed mentioned in the prophecy there in Genesis 3:15. So to understand this sacred secret, first we must understand who the woman of the prophecy is, and who the seed would be.
We already learned that the serpent represented Satan. So who does the woman represent? Just as the serpent represented the spirit being known to us Satan (or slanderer) so the woman is not a literal woman. We can peer into other scriptures to help us understand who she is.
Paul wrote his letter to the Christians in Galatians to expound upon the fact that God had done away with the “Law that consisted in degrees” given to Moses and to which the fleshly nation of Israel was enslaved to. Within that later he explained that the drama in Genesis between the free woman Sarah (Abraham’s wife) and her servant Hagar was a prophetic drama that represented both the Israelite nation that was enslaved to the law, that was represented by the slave-woman Hagar, and the free woman Sarah, who represented the Christian congregation of anointed witnesses of Jehovah. There-in he reveals who the true spiritual mother, or woman of the congregation is:
(Galatians 4:24-26) . . .These things stand as a symbolic drama; for these [women] mean two covenants, the one from Mount Si′nai, which brings forth children for slavery, and which is Ha′gar. 25 Now this Ha′gar means Si′nai, a mountain in Arabia, and she corresponds with the Jerusalem today, for she is in slavery with her children. 26 But the Jerusalem above is free, and she is our mother.
There he told the anointed Christian congregation that, “Jerusalem above is free, and she is our mother.” Jerusalem above, was not the Jerusalem in the middle-east. Rather she is heavenly. The woman of the seed is thus a heavenly organization.
That this is the case is further bore out in prophecy in Revelation chapter twelve. There we are told about the birth of the “new nation”:
(Revelation 12:1, 2) . . .And a great sign was seen in heaven, a woman arrayed with the sun, and the moon was beneath her feet, and on her head was a crown of twelve stars, 2 and she was pregnant. And she cries out in her pains and in her agony to give birth.
This woman “arrayed with the sun” is the same woman as the one that was prophesied about in Genesis 3:15, and the mother of the congregation that Paul spoke about in Galatians 4:26. She is Jehovah’s celestial organization of spirit beings. From that celestial organization springs the “seed” over whom all mankind would bless itself.
Thus the first part of the sacred secret begins to be revealed. Jehovah first revealed to Abraham that that promised seed in Genesis 3:15 would come through his lineage:
(Genesis 22:18) And by means of your seed all nations of the earth will certainly bless themselves due to the fact that you have listened to my voice.’”
Later on Jehovah revealed to Isaac, and then Jacob, that the promised seed would come through their lines. Then Jacob on his death-bed revealed that out of his twelve sons, the promised seed would come through the line of Judah:
(Genesis 49:10) . . .The scepter will not turn aside from Judah, neither the commander’s staff from between his feet, until Shi′loh comes; and to him the obedience of the peoples will belong.
Many centuries later, David, a descendant of Judah was given the promise by Jehovah God that the promised seed would come from his line:
(2 Samuel 7:16) And your house and your kingdom will certainly be steadfast to time indefinite before you; your very throne will become one firmly established to time indefinite.”’”
(Psalm 89:36) His seed itself will prove to be even to time indefinite, And his throne as the sun in front of me.
This seed came to be known by the Jews as the Messiah, or Chosen One who would liberate the nations from sin and death. In fact all of the following words mean the same thing: anointed, chosen one, Messiah, Christ.
In around the year 3 B. C. E., Gabriel the angel appeared to the servant-girl Mary and revealed to her that the Messiah, the chosen one, the promised seed of Genesis 3:15, the one that God promised Abraham would bless all the nations of the earth was going to be born to her, and she was to call his name Jesus, which means, “Jehovah is salvation.”
Finally, the sacred secret whom Jehovah had hidden from times long-lasting was revealed:
(Romans 16:25, 26) . . .the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the sacred secret which has been kept in silence for long-lasting times 26 but has now been made manifest…
cont...
(Genesis 4:1) . . .: “I have produced a man with the aid of Jehovah.”
Yet Eve nor her first son Cain were the woman or the seed mentioned in the prophecy there in Genesis 3:15. So to understand this sacred secret, first we must understand who the woman of the prophecy is, and who the seed would be.
We already learned that the serpent represented Satan. So who does the woman represent? Just as the serpent represented the spirit being known to us Satan (or slanderer) so the woman is not a literal woman. We can peer into other scriptures to help us understand who she is.
Paul wrote his letter to the Christians in Galatians to expound upon the fact that God had done away with the “Law that consisted in degrees” given to Moses and to which the fleshly nation of Israel was enslaved to. Within that later he explained that the drama in Genesis between the free woman Sarah (Abraham’s wife) and her servant Hagar was a prophetic drama that represented both the Israelite nation that was enslaved to the law, that was represented by the slave-woman Hagar, and the free woman Sarah, who represented the Christian congregation of anointed witnesses of Jehovah. There-in he reveals who the true spiritual mother, or woman of the congregation is:
(Galatians 4:24-26) . . .These things stand as a symbolic drama; for these [women] mean two covenants, the one from Mount Si′nai, which brings forth children for slavery, and which is Ha′gar. 25 Now this Ha′gar means Si′nai, a mountain in Arabia, and she corresponds with the Jerusalem today, for she is in slavery with her children. 26 But the Jerusalem above is free, and she is our mother.
There he told the anointed Christian congregation that, “Jerusalem above is free, and she is our mother.” Jerusalem above, was not the Jerusalem in the middle-east. Rather she is heavenly. The woman of the seed is thus a heavenly organization.
That this is the case is further bore out in prophecy in Revelation chapter twelve. There we are told about the birth of the “new nation”:
(Revelation 12:1, 2) . . .And a great sign was seen in heaven, a woman arrayed with the sun, and the moon was beneath her feet, and on her head was a crown of twelve stars, 2 and she was pregnant. And she cries out in her pains and in her agony to give birth.
This woman “arrayed with the sun” is the same woman as the one that was prophesied about in Genesis 3:15, and the mother of the congregation that Paul spoke about in Galatians 4:26. She is Jehovah’s celestial organization of spirit beings. From that celestial organization springs the “seed” over whom all mankind would bless itself.
Thus the first part of the sacred secret begins to be revealed. Jehovah first revealed to Abraham that that promised seed in Genesis 3:15 would come through his lineage:
(Genesis 22:18) And by means of your seed all nations of the earth will certainly bless themselves due to the fact that you have listened to my voice.’”
Later on Jehovah revealed to Isaac, and then Jacob, that the promised seed would come through their lines. Then Jacob on his death-bed revealed that out of his twelve sons, the promised seed would come through the line of Judah:
(Genesis 49:10) . . .The scepter will not turn aside from Judah, neither the commander’s staff from between his feet, until Shi′loh comes; and to him the obedience of the peoples will belong.
Many centuries later, David, a descendant of Judah was given the promise by Jehovah God that the promised seed would come from his line:
(2 Samuel 7:16) And your house and your kingdom will certainly be steadfast to time indefinite before you; your very throne will become one firmly established to time indefinite.”’”
(Psalm 89:36) His seed itself will prove to be even to time indefinite, And his throne as the sun in front of me.
This seed came to be known by the Jews as the Messiah, or Chosen One who would liberate the nations from sin and death. In fact all of the following words mean the same thing: anointed, chosen one, Messiah, Christ.
In around the year 3 B. C. E., Gabriel the angel appeared to the servant-girl Mary and revealed to her that the Messiah, the chosen one, the promised seed of Genesis 3:15, the one that God promised Abraham would bless all the nations of the earth was going to be born to her, and she was to call his name Jesus, which means, “Jehovah is salvation.”
Finally, the sacred secret whom Jehovah had hidden from times long-lasting was revealed:
(Romans 16:25, 26) . . .the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the sacred secret which has been kept in silence for long-lasting times 26 but has now been made manifest…
cont...
Part of the revealing of the sacred secret of God, was that his only-begotten son Jesus Christ, would empty his body in heaven, as a spirit creature,
be transferred to the womb of Mary be born a man, to live in perfection and then die for mankind’s sin.
But this is just the beginning of the hidden mysteries of God. For part of the “sacred secret” is not just who Jesus is, but what he was to be given. For Jesus referred to this “sacred secret” this hidden mystery as the “sacred secret of the kingdom”:
(Mark 4:11) . . .: “To YOU the sacred secret of the kingdom of God has been given. . .
What is this secret of the kingdom? To understand it, one first must understand what a kingdom is. It is a government, its ruler is a king. It has established rules of law, it has territory over which it holds sway, it has subjects, and it also has armies to protect itself.
Thus the unveiling of the “sacred secret of the kingdom” is the fact that Jesus would become ruler of God’s kingdom government in heaven. His rule would be over the entire inhabited earth. But he was not to rule alone. There are several other key factors that we will now consider in the unveiling of the wonderful “sacred secrets” of God.
One of these sacred secrets consists in the fact that Jesus was not to rule alone in heaven. And also, another beautiful facet of this beautiful jewel is revealed in the fact that Jehovah had seen fit to call a certain group from among sinful mankind who are obedient to his word and exercise faith in his Christ, to die and be raised up as spirit creatures with Jesus as his adopted brothers, and rule with him on thrones over the earth.
The further unveiling of the sacred secret shows us that Jesus Christ at his resurrection was granted a spirit body with immortality, something only his Father Jehovah had, before Jesus came to earth to die. And the fact, that each and every one of the anointed from earth who go to heaven to rule with Christ in kingdom glory will also receive immortal spirit bodies:
(1 Corinthians 15:51-54) 51 Look! I tell YOU a sacred secret: We shall not all fall asleep [in death], but we shall all be changed, 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, during the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised up incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this which is corruptible must put on incorruption, and this which is mortal must put on immortality. 54 But when [this which is corruptible puts on incorruption and] this which is mortal puts on immortality, then the saying will take place that is written: “Death is swallowed up forever.”
What a wonderful unveiling of the sacred secret of God’s word! Before Cain was born into this imperfect world, and after Adam and Eve had seen Jehovah had foreordained the seed, to undo the works of the Devil:
(1 Peter 1:20) . . .True, he was foreknown before the founding of the world, but he was made manifest at the end of the times for the sake of YOU
(Ephesians 1:4, 5) just as he chose us in union with him before the founding of the world, that we should be holy and without blemish before him in love. 5 For he foreordained us to the adoption through Jesus Christ as sons to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
Thus the while the main part of the seed was Jesus Christ himself, their would be a secondary part of the seed. It consists of the anointed Christian congregation, of whom there will be a total of 144,000 members bought from among mankind:
(Revelation 14:3) . . .and no one was able to master that song but the hundred and forty-four thousand, who have been bought from the earth.
(Revelation 5:10) . . .and you made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God, and they are to rule as kings over the earth.”
(Revelation 22:5) Also, night will be no more, and they have no need of lamplight nor [do they have] sunlight, because Jehovah God will shed light upon them, and they will rule as kings forever and ever.
Daniel was given a wonderful glimpse of Jesus coming kingdom glory in heaven when he would be enthroned as king of God’s kingdom and wrote about it:
(Daniel 7:13, 14) . . .“I kept on beholding in the visions of the night, and, see there! with the clouds of the heavens someone like a son of man happened to be coming; and to the Ancient of Days he gained access, and they brought him up close even before that One. 14 And to him there were given rulership and dignity and kingdom, that the peoples, national groups and languages should all serve even him. His rulership is an indefinitely lasting rulership that will not pass away, and his kingdom one that will not be brought to ruin.
cont...
But this is just the beginning of the hidden mysteries of God. For part of the “sacred secret” is not just who Jesus is, but what he was to be given. For Jesus referred to this “sacred secret” this hidden mystery as the “sacred secret of the kingdom”:
(Mark 4:11) . . .: “To YOU the sacred secret of the kingdom of God has been given. . .
What is this secret of the kingdom? To understand it, one first must understand what a kingdom is. It is a government, its ruler is a king. It has established rules of law, it has territory over which it holds sway, it has subjects, and it also has armies to protect itself.
Thus the unveiling of the “sacred secret of the kingdom” is the fact that Jesus would become ruler of God’s kingdom government in heaven. His rule would be over the entire inhabited earth. But he was not to rule alone. There are several other key factors that we will now consider in the unveiling of the wonderful “sacred secrets” of God.
One of these sacred secrets consists in the fact that Jesus was not to rule alone in heaven. And also, another beautiful facet of this beautiful jewel is revealed in the fact that Jehovah had seen fit to call a certain group from among sinful mankind who are obedient to his word and exercise faith in his Christ, to die and be raised up as spirit creatures with Jesus as his adopted brothers, and rule with him on thrones over the earth.
The further unveiling of the sacred secret shows us that Jesus Christ at his resurrection was granted a spirit body with immortality, something only his Father Jehovah had, before Jesus came to earth to die. And the fact, that each and every one of the anointed from earth who go to heaven to rule with Christ in kingdom glory will also receive immortal spirit bodies:
(1 Corinthians 15:51-54) 51 Look! I tell YOU a sacred secret: We shall not all fall asleep [in death], but we shall all be changed, 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, during the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised up incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this which is corruptible must put on incorruption, and this which is mortal must put on immortality. 54 But when [this which is corruptible puts on incorruption and] this which is mortal puts on immortality, then the saying will take place that is written: “Death is swallowed up forever.”
What a wonderful unveiling of the sacred secret of God’s word! Before Cain was born into this imperfect world, and after Adam and Eve had seen Jehovah had foreordained the seed, to undo the works of the Devil:
(1 Peter 1:20) . . .True, he was foreknown before the founding of the world, but he was made manifest at the end of the times for the sake of YOU
(Ephesians 1:4, 5) just as he chose us in union with him before the founding of the world, that we should be holy and without blemish before him in love. 5 For he foreordained us to the adoption through Jesus Christ as sons to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
Thus the while the main part of the seed was Jesus Christ himself, their would be a secondary part of the seed. It consists of the anointed Christian congregation, of whom there will be a total of 144,000 members bought from among mankind:
(Revelation 14:3) . . .and no one was able to master that song but the hundred and forty-four thousand, who have been bought from the earth.
(Revelation 5:10) . . .and you made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God, and they are to rule as kings over the earth.”
(Revelation 22:5) Also, night will be no more, and they have no need of lamplight nor [do they have] sunlight, because Jehovah God will shed light upon them, and they will rule as kings forever and ever.
Daniel was given a wonderful glimpse of Jesus coming kingdom glory in heaven when he would be enthroned as king of God’s kingdom and wrote about it:
(Daniel 7:13, 14) . . .“I kept on beholding in the visions of the night, and, see there! with the clouds of the heavens someone like a son of man happened to be coming; and to the Ancient of Days he gained access, and they brought him up close even before that One. 14 And to him there were given rulership and dignity and kingdom, that the peoples, national groups and languages should all serve even him. His rulership is an indefinitely lasting rulership that will not pass away, and his kingdom one that will not be brought to ruin.
cont...
In that wonderful coronation ceremony Daniel saw, “the son of man” is Jesus Christ, and the “Ancient of Days” to whom he gains access to
receive the dignity and splendor of ruling is Jehovah God.
Yet in that prophecy we also see that other people were also given rulership:
(Daniel 7:18) . . .But the holy ones of the Supreme One will receive the kingdom, and they will take possession of the kingdom for time indefinite, even for time indefinite upon times indefinite.’
Yes, the “holy ones” of Jehovah receive part of the kingdom power! What a wonderful facet of this sacred secret reserved hidden and revealed to Jehovah’s witnesses in this time!
Earlier we saw how the woman of Revelation 12 is the same woman that Jehovah prophesied about in Genesis 3:15.
That part of the seed of that woman is still on earth today is evident. For in that vision we see the birth of the nation, the kingdom given to Jesus, the main part of the seed, and the ousting of Satan from the heaven. Then Satan now that he has come down to heaven being angry knowing he has a short period of time has gone out to wage war against the remaining ones of the seed of that woman:
(Revelation 12:17) . . .And the dragon grew wrathful at the woman, and went off to wage war with the remaining ones of her seed, who observe the commandments of God and have the work of bearing witness to Jesus.
Yet the revealing of the sacred secret does not stop there. For yet it holds out another aspect of Jehovah’s wisdom that had not been understood up until Paul’s day.
The kingdom covenant that Jehovah made with Jesus and with the remaining seed of Abraham was originally given to the nation of Israel. But since they rejected Jesus, the Messiah, and very few of them took advantage of that kingdom message of hope and became adopted sons of God and heirs with the promise with him, Jehovah opened up the offer that not only fleshly Jews, but also those of the nations, or gentiles would become part of the real seed of Abraham, and the real secondary part of the seed:
(Ephesians 3:4-6) 4 In the face of this YOU, when YOU read this, can realize the comprehension I have in the sacred secret of the Christ. 5 In other generations this [secret] was not made known to the sons of men as it has now been revealed to his holy apostles and prophets by spirit, 6 namely, that people of the nations should be joint heirs and fellow members of the body and partakers with us of the promise in union with Christ Jesus through the good news.
By means of this Messianic kingdom now ruling in heaven Jesus will break apart the works of Satan the Devil. He has anointed, throughout the centuries, since 33 C. E. till present Christians with a heavenly hope to go to heaven to rule with him. When the end finally comes, there will be a total of 144,000 people out of all tongues and tribes and nations that will rule with him, as part of the foretold seed of the woman in Genesis 3:15, in heaven as kings:
(Revelation 5:9, 10) . . .“You are worthy to take the scroll and open its seals, because you were slaughtered and with your blood you bought persons for God out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation, 10 and you made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God, and they are to rule as kings over the earth.”
Yet in that prophecy we also see that other people were also given rulership:
(Daniel 7:18) . . .But the holy ones of the Supreme One will receive the kingdom, and they will take possession of the kingdom for time indefinite, even for time indefinite upon times indefinite.’
Yes, the “holy ones” of Jehovah receive part of the kingdom power! What a wonderful facet of this sacred secret reserved hidden and revealed to Jehovah’s witnesses in this time!
Earlier we saw how the woman of Revelation 12 is the same woman that Jehovah prophesied about in Genesis 3:15.
That part of the seed of that woman is still on earth today is evident. For in that vision we see the birth of the nation, the kingdom given to Jesus, the main part of the seed, and the ousting of Satan from the heaven. Then Satan now that he has come down to heaven being angry knowing he has a short period of time has gone out to wage war against the remaining ones of the seed of that woman:
(Revelation 12:17) . . .And the dragon grew wrathful at the woman, and went off to wage war with the remaining ones of her seed, who observe the commandments of God and have the work of bearing witness to Jesus.
Yet the revealing of the sacred secret does not stop there. For yet it holds out another aspect of Jehovah’s wisdom that had not been understood up until Paul’s day.
The kingdom covenant that Jehovah made with Jesus and with the remaining seed of Abraham was originally given to the nation of Israel. But since they rejected Jesus, the Messiah, and very few of them took advantage of that kingdom message of hope and became adopted sons of God and heirs with the promise with him, Jehovah opened up the offer that not only fleshly Jews, but also those of the nations, or gentiles would become part of the real seed of Abraham, and the real secondary part of the seed:
(Ephesians 3:4-6) 4 In the face of this YOU, when YOU read this, can realize the comprehension I have in the sacred secret of the Christ. 5 In other generations this [secret] was not made known to the sons of men as it has now been revealed to his holy apostles and prophets by spirit, 6 namely, that people of the nations should be joint heirs and fellow members of the body and partakers with us of the promise in union with Christ Jesus through the good news.
By means of this Messianic kingdom now ruling in heaven Jesus will break apart the works of Satan the Devil. He has anointed, throughout the centuries, since 33 C. E. till present Christians with a heavenly hope to go to heaven to rule with him. When the end finally comes, there will be a total of 144,000 people out of all tongues and tribes and nations that will rule with him, as part of the foretold seed of the woman in Genesis 3:15, in heaven as kings:
(Revelation 5:9, 10) . . .“You are worthy to take the scroll and open its seals, because you were slaughtered and with your blood you bought persons for God out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation, 10 and you made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God, and they are to rule as kings over the earth.”
There is one commonality with all these religious threads. They are all incredibly verbose.
Why use 10 words when 1000 will do.
Why use 10 words when 1000 will do.
This part seems kind of strange or maybe i`m just comprehending it wrong.
That seems to say that the sacred secrets can not be illustrated, as in, they can`t be explained using parables or stories or worldly examples as illustrations to help one understand them.so some other way of understanding must be used.
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That sounds like the sacred secrets were intentionally designed to be not illustratable so that people would not be able to see or hear (understand and get a sense of ) them even if they tried too,and to prevent them from turning back and seeking forgiveness.
It seems that the sacred secrets were intended for only very few people to "hear" and understand them.
To YOU the sacred secret of the kingdom of God has been given, but to those outside all things occur in illustrations, 12 in order that, though looking, they may look and yet not see, and, though hearing, they may hear and yet not get the sense of it, nor ever turn back and forgiveness be given them.”
but to those outside all things occur in illustrations
That seems to say that the sacred secrets can not be illustrated, as in, they can`t be explained using parables or stories or worldly examples as illustrations to help one understand them.so some other way of understanding must be used.
,
but to those outside all things occur in illustrations in order that, though looking, they may not see, and, though hearing, they may not get the sense of it, nor ever turn back and forgiveness be given them.
That sounds like the sacred secrets were intentionally designed to be not illustratable so that people would not be able to see or hear (understand and get a sense of ) them even if they tried too,and to prevent them from turning back and seeking forgiveness.
It seems that the sacred secrets were intended for only very few people to "hear" and understand them.
I always wondered about the holy one's name, Jesus. (I'm writing this because you wrote Gabriel told Mary would give birth to Jesus, when the word
Jesus didn't even exist back then). Of course you may know the letter J was added to the English language in the 1500's. Jesus's original name was
Yeshua, also Emmanuel. Anyways, it says in Revelation that he would reveal his new name on a white rock to his followers(or chose ones). Is Jesus his
new name, or is it still to be revealed? I get confused there because it is also said that the Anti-Christ is going to lead the entire world astray.
Is everyone being lead astray by that name? Maybe eventually his real name will be revealed. Until then I like to say his name as Yeshua. The only way
to not be deceived is to trust the Holy Spirit, our intermediary.
Thanks OP, I loved everything you posted. I couldn't stop reading it, even thought it was about 4 posts long. Thanks, again.
Thanks OP, I loved everything you posted. I couldn't stop reading it, even thought it was about 4 posts long. Thanks, again.
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by Jodlum66 because: Fixed some grammar
Originally posted by Tardacus
This part seems kind of strange or maybe i`m just comprehending it wrong.
To YOU the sacred secret of the kingdom of God has been given, but to those outside all things occur in illustrations, 12 in order that, though looking, they may look and yet not see, and, though hearing, they may hear and yet not get the sense of it, nor ever turn back and forgiveness be given them.”
but to those outside all things occur in illustrations
That seems to say that the sacred secrets can not be illustrated, as in, they can`t be explained using parables or stories or worldly examples as illustrations to help one understand them.so some other way of understanding must be used.
,
but to those outside all things occur in illustrations in order that, though looking, they may not see, and, though hearing, they may not get the sense of it, nor ever turn back and forgiveness be given them.
That sounds like the sacred secrets were intentionally designed to be not illustratable so that people would not be able to see or hear (understand and get a sense of ) them even if they tried too,and to prevent them from turning back and seeking forgiveness.
It seems that the sacred secrets were intended for only very few people to "hear" and understand them.
No, you just need to read the rest of the chapter to get the context. He gave the people several illustrations, which they did not understand. Later they left, and then those who wanted to know what they meant stayed and asked Jesus what they meant. And because they showed interest for spiritual things, Jesus then went ahead and explained to them what the illustrations meant.
I always enjoy reading excerpts from the bible. Problem is There is so many versions. And you gotta read the one that describes god more as a dark
being.
Because that's exactly what Jehovah aka Yah weh = Melchizedek = black shapeshifting god.
www.urantia.org...-jump-result-0
1. Yahweh Yahweh was the god of the southern Palestinian tribes, who associated this concept of deity with Mount Horeb, the Sinai volcano. Yahweh was merely one of the hundreds and thousands of nature gods which held the attention and claimed the worship of the Semitic tribes and peoples.
2.El Shaddai For centuries after Melchizedek’s sojourn at Salem his doctrine of Deity persisted in various versions but was generally connoted by the term El Elyon, the Most High God of heaven. Many Semites, including the immediate descendants of Abraham, at various times worshiped both Yahweh and El Elyon.
3. El Shaddai. It is difficult to explain what El Shaddai stood for. This idea of God was a composite derived from the teachings of Amenemope’s Book of Wisdom modified by Ikhnaton’s doctrine of Aton and further influenced by Melchizedek’s teachings embodied in the concept of El Elyon. But as the concept of El Shaddai permeated the Hebrew mind, it became thoroughly colored with the Yahweh beliefs of the desert.
4. El. Amid all this confusion of terminology and haziness of concept, many devout believers sincerely endeavored to worship all of these evolving ideas of divinity, and there grew up the practice of referring to this composite Deity as El. And this term included still other of the Bedouin nature gods.
5. Elohim. In Kish and Ur there long persisted Sumerian-Chaldean groups who taught a three-in-one God concept founded on the traditions of the days of Adam and Melchizedek. This doctrine was carried to Egypt, where this Trinity was worshiped under the name of Elohim, or in the singular as Eloah. The philosophic circles of Egypt and later Alexandrian teachers of Hebraic extraction taught this unity of pluralistic Gods, and many of Moses’ advisers at the time of the exodus believed in this Trinity. But the concept of the trinitarian Elohim never became a real part of Hebrew theology until after they had come under the political influence of the Babylonians.
6. Sundry names. The Semites disliked to speak the name of their Deity, and they therefore resorted to numerous appellations from time to time, such as: The Spirit of God, The Lord, The Angel of the Lord, The Almighty, The Holy One, The Most High, Adonai, The Ancient of Days, The Lord God of Israel, The Creator of Heaven and Earth, Kyrios, Jah, The Lord of Hosts, and The Father in Heaven.
Jehovah is a term which in recent times has been employed to designate the completed concept of Yahweh which finally evolved in the long Hebrew experience. But the name Jehovah did not come into use until fifteen hundred years after the times of Jesus.
So the bible i thought you were reading and deciphering it but you were just taking it at face value. Jesus himself even says to not take what he says at face value... you even quoted it. His teachings are secret because it takes an open mind, Experience and knowledge to see between the encoded christian guy in a cloud image they try to paint. But really. Interplanetary is not an understatement.
Just saying yo, god ant what you think he/it is. Never the less Orion still listens and has angels here. And very much was and is apart of helping along its children.
Also, the secrets he is referrering to is not to be taken at face value. Kingdom of heaven, Everyone knew back then of the stories of the cities in the mountains don't mean people believed it. They forgot the kingdom of god long ago. Tho the book referrs to the heavens in the sky and confusingly refers to Jesus's heaven below. Its not a government persay but the gates of heaven can only be opened by the messiah. Who in turn. Saves all who believe him. So the prophecy says. The anti christ comes. The Pleiades which is also known as the serpent/rattlesnake or dragon. Wars with God from Orion. Comes here and will deceive man and bring them to Hell. Just not on earth. And all that explained with real life events that can and will happen.
Because that's exactly what Jehovah aka Yah weh = Melchizedek = black shapeshifting god.
www.urantia.org...-jump-result-0
1. Yahweh Yahweh was the god of the southern Palestinian tribes, who associated this concept of deity with Mount Horeb, the Sinai volcano. Yahweh was merely one of the hundreds and thousands of nature gods which held the attention and claimed the worship of the Semitic tribes and peoples.
2.El Shaddai For centuries after Melchizedek’s sojourn at Salem his doctrine of Deity persisted in various versions but was generally connoted by the term El Elyon, the Most High God of heaven. Many Semites, including the immediate descendants of Abraham, at various times worshiped both Yahweh and El Elyon.
3. El Shaddai. It is difficult to explain what El Shaddai stood for. This idea of God was a composite derived from the teachings of Amenemope’s Book of Wisdom modified by Ikhnaton’s doctrine of Aton and further influenced by Melchizedek’s teachings embodied in the concept of El Elyon. But as the concept of El Shaddai permeated the Hebrew mind, it became thoroughly colored with the Yahweh beliefs of the desert.
4. El. Amid all this confusion of terminology and haziness of concept, many devout believers sincerely endeavored to worship all of these evolving ideas of divinity, and there grew up the practice of referring to this composite Deity as El. And this term included still other of the Bedouin nature gods.
5. Elohim. In Kish and Ur there long persisted Sumerian-Chaldean groups who taught a three-in-one God concept founded on the traditions of the days of Adam and Melchizedek. This doctrine was carried to Egypt, where this Trinity was worshiped under the name of Elohim, or in the singular as Eloah. The philosophic circles of Egypt and later Alexandrian teachers of Hebraic extraction taught this unity of pluralistic Gods, and many of Moses’ advisers at the time of the exodus believed in this Trinity. But the concept of the trinitarian Elohim never became a real part of Hebrew theology until after they had come under the political influence of the Babylonians.
6. Sundry names. The Semites disliked to speak the name of their Deity, and they therefore resorted to numerous appellations from time to time, such as: The Spirit of God, The Lord, The Angel of the Lord, The Almighty, The Holy One, The Most High, Adonai, The Ancient of Days, The Lord God of Israel, The Creator of Heaven and Earth, Kyrios, Jah, The Lord of Hosts, and The Father in Heaven.
Jehovah is a term which in recent times has been employed to designate the completed concept of Yahweh which finally evolved in the long Hebrew experience. But the name Jehovah did not come into use until fifteen hundred years after the times of Jesus.
The Canaanites had long revered Yahweh, and although many of the Kenites believed more or less in El Elyon, the supergod of the Salem religion, a majority of the Canaanites held loosely to the worship of the old tribal deities. They were hardly willing to abandon their national deities in favor of an international, not to say an interplanetary, God. They were not universal-deity minded, and therefore these tribes continued to worship their tribal deities, including Yahweh and the silver and golden calves which symbolized the Bedouin herders’ concept of the spirit of the Sinai volcano.
So the bible i thought you were reading and deciphering it but you were just taking it at face value. Jesus himself even says to not take what he says at face value... you even quoted it. His teachings are secret because it takes an open mind, Experience and knowledge to see between the encoded christian guy in a cloud image they try to paint. But really. Interplanetary is not an understatement.
Just saying yo, god ant what you think he/it is. Never the less Orion still listens and has angels here. And very much was and is apart of helping along its children.
Also, the secrets he is referrering to is not to be taken at face value. Kingdom of heaven, Everyone knew back then of the stories of the cities in the mountains don't mean people believed it. They forgot the kingdom of god long ago. Tho the book referrs to the heavens in the sky and confusingly refers to Jesus's heaven below. Its not a government persay but the gates of heaven can only be opened by the messiah. Who in turn. Saves all who believe him. So the prophecy says. The anti christ comes. The Pleiades which is also known as the serpent/rattlesnake or dragon. Wars with God from Orion. Comes here and will deceive man and bring them to Hell. Just not on earth. And all that explained with real life events that can and will happen.
New Living Translation (©2007)
So Jesus said, "When you have lifted up the Son of Man on the cross, then you will understand that I Am he. I do nothing on my own but say only what the Father taught me.
English Standard Version (©2001)
So Jesus said to them, “When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am he, and that I do nothing on my own authority, but speak just as the Father taught me.
New American Standard Bible (©1995)
So Jesus said, "When you lift up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am He, and I do nothing on My own initiative, but I speak these things as the Father taught Me.
bible.cc...
This is what i mean. Lol. So here you have a couple translations. Notice how the 1 ais confirming Jesus as the son of man, in the 2007 edition. You can tell he is referring to himself. But referring to the son of man. Which is someone entirely different. The son of man will come in the end of times. Does not mean Jesus. Jesus is only stating that he is the prophet he says he is. And that his fathers words are law. the cross was kina thrown in there As his father is our father. But the bible can only go so far without exposing the truth. It takes a whole grasping the aspects of the bible and realizing that This is not based on fiction in the form of a man coming in a cloud, With lightning and 4 horses of destruction. Aliens don't fit into that picture at all if you are taking it all at face value. It really does not.
Yet aliens are very much real and I never said your god does not exist. Nope. He very much does but he it is not what many people think he is. So no i am not an athiest. I am a pantheist if you want to call me something. I do believe in god because i have seen him/it twice. And he/it very much does understand what you are thinking but his voice. In my experience the experiences it showed me were not that of a fully shapeshifted man but of animals and a humanoid. I'm not sure if they can turn into a full on man. But they speak with deep emotion. Very wise beings. In fact if you look into Orion there is stuff going on over there that has scientists buzzing. Stars are being born. Its a nursery for stars and planets. So God did not just create us he is creating lots of life. Creating the heavens above. He did create our planet. our heavens. But not the universe. And this is lost in the fact that god refers to the cosmic essence as god what he means is the act of living consiousness spreading and thriving in symbiotic unison, Life spreads life and creates death as well as lessons. These things god refers to among the lessons of god. Not of himself but of Everything that comes to conclusions... language is far to limited. This is where pictures and emotion are much better.
So Jesus said, "When you have lifted up the Son of Man on the cross, then you will understand that I Am he. I do nothing on my own but say only what the Father taught me.
English Standard Version (©2001)
So Jesus said to them, “When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am he, and that I do nothing on my own authority, but speak just as the Father taught me.
New American Standard Bible (©1995)
So Jesus said, "When you lift up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am He, and I do nothing on My own initiative, but I speak these things as the Father taught Me.
bible.cc...
This is what i mean. Lol. So here you have a couple translations. Notice how the 1 ais confirming Jesus as the son of man, in the 2007 edition. You can tell he is referring to himself. But referring to the son of man. Which is someone entirely different. The son of man will come in the end of times. Does not mean Jesus. Jesus is only stating that he is the prophet he says he is. And that his fathers words are law. the cross was kina thrown in there As his father is our father. But the bible can only go so far without exposing the truth. It takes a whole grasping the aspects of the bible and realizing that This is not based on fiction in the form of a man coming in a cloud, With lightning and 4 horses of destruction. Aliens don't fit into that picture at all if you are taking it all at face value. It really does not.
Yet aliens are very much real and I never said your god does not exist. Nope. He very much does but he it is not what many people think he is. So no i am not an athiest. I am a pantheist if you want to call me something. I do believe in god because i have seen him/it twice. And he/it very much does understand what you are thinking but his voice. In my experience the experiences it showed me were not that of a fully shapeshifted man but of animals and a humanoid. I'm not sure if they can turn into a full on man. But they speak with deep emotion. Very wise beings. In fact if you look into Orion there is stuff going on over there that has scientists buzzing. Stars are being born. Its a nursery for stars and planets. So God did not just create us he is creating lots of life. Creating the heavens above. He did create our planet. our heavens. But not the universe. And this is lost in the fact that god refers to the cosmic essence as god what he means is the act of living consiousness spreading and thriving in symbiotic unison, Life spreads life and creates death as well as lessons. These things god refers to among the lessons of god. Not of himself but of Everything that comes to conclusions... language is far to limited. This is where pictures and emotion are much better.
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A large part of what you are outlining here needs to be defined by a key. The key is found in 1 Corinthians 10.
14 Therefore, my dear friends, flee from idolatry. 15 I speak to sensible people; judge for yourselves what I say. 16 Is not the cup of thanksgiving for which we give thanks a participation in the blood of Christ? And is not the bread that we break a participation in the body of Christ? 17 Because there is one loaf, we, who are many, are one body, for we all share the one loaf.
---What is he saying here? We make an idol out of our separate self. When we see ourselves as the one to feed, we then take actions accordingly. When we see the unity of the body, our actions are in accordance with what is best for the many. From here, another LARGE secret is revealed. We, who are many, are one loaf. Keep this in mind. We are one loaf of bread. The heel on either side of the loaf is Christ (ADAM). To me, the fact that Christ is ADAM as redeemer is profound. This is one of the largest secrets revealed in all of scripture. This is why the SEED of the redeemer needed to be found in a particular bloodline.
18 Consider the people of Israel: Do not those who eat the sacrifices participate in the altar? 19 Do I mean then that food sacrificed to an idol is anything, or that an idol is anything? 20 No, but the sacrifices of pagans are offered to demons, not to God, and I do not want you to be participants with demons. 21 You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons too; you cannot have a part in both the Lord’s table and the table of demons. 22 Are we trying to arouse the Lord’s jealousy? Are we stronger than he?
---The cup of demons has to do with knowledge and how it is used. There are twins in all of religion. Jacob and Esau represent the two sides. Jacob was a farmer and plants seed, then harvests from the work. The work (Suffering) produces much more than what was sown. This is giving. Esau represents the hunter. The hunter can only take. He then uses what he takes by making other things (tools, clothing...) from what is taken. He does not plant anything back. This is reflective of our use of resources (Technology and Carbon). Why Carbon?
Carbon has 6 protons, 6 electrons and 6 neutrons. It is the mark of mankind and the resource we use to transmute God's fruit into our own. This is the fruit of knowledge. Go back now to the two types of sacrifice. One gives (God's will is to give and receive only) and the other takes (The will of the thief). Our fruit of knowledge kills the breath of God. The breath is Nitrogen (7 protons, 7 electrons and 7 neutrons) and Oxygen (888). Both of these numbers have great significance in relation to both God and Christ. The word of God overcomes the beast and the word is found in the breath.
Back to 1 Corinthians 10. The loaf of bread is what we eat. Adam is the Father of mankind. In John, Christ keeps referencing the Father. He then reveals the truth. If you have see Christ, you have seen the Father. They are one. How can this be if Corinthians makes a direct distinction between God and Christ? Christ even says that the Father is greater than him. Is this a paradox? No.
Colossians 1
15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. 17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. 19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, 20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.
Many passages in John reveal that God allows Christ to merge with himself. They are one, just as Jesus said, "I and the Father are one." There is a dual meaning in this. Not only is he one with God, he IS the Father. What Father? The Father of mankind. Jesus IS ADAM! The redeemer is the one that fell, but the error entered in by the woman.
Continued...
(Ephesians 3:4-6) 4 In the face of this YOU, when YOU read this, can realize the comprehension I have in the sacred secret of the Christ. 5 In other generations this [secret] was not made known to the sons of men as it has now been revealed to his holy apostles and prophets by spirit, 6 namely, that people of the nations should be joint heirs and fellow members of the body and partakers with us of the promise in union with Christ Jesus through the good news.
A large part of what you are outlining here needs to be defined by a key. The key is found in 1 Corinthians 10.
14 Therefore, my dear friends, flee from idolatry. 15 I speak to sensible people; judge for yourselves what I say. 16 Is not the cup of thanksgiving for which we give thanks a participation in the blood of Christ? And is not the bread that we break a participation in the body of Christ? 17 Because there is one loaf, we, who are many, are one body, for we all share the one loaf.
---What is he saying here? We make an idol out of our separate self. When we see ourselves as the one to feed, we then take actions accordingly. When we see the unity of the body, our actions are in accordance with what is best for the many. From here, another LARGE secret is revealed. We, who are many, are one loaf. Keep this in mind. We are one loaf of bread. The heel on either side of the loaf is Christ (ADAM). To me, the fact that Christ is ADAM as redeemer is profound. This is one of the largest secrets revealed in all of scripture. This is why the SEED of the redeemer needed to be found in a particular bloodline.
18 Consider the people of Israel: Do not those who eat the sacrifices participate in the altar? 19 Do I mean then that food sacrificed to an idol is anything, or that an idol is anything? 20 No, but the sacrifices of pagans are offered to demons, not to God, and I do not want you to be participants with demons. 21 You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons too; you cannot have a part in both the Lord’s table and the table of demons. 22 Are we trying to arouse the Lord’s jealousy? Are we stronger than he?
---The cup of demons has to do with knowledge and how it is used. There are twins in all of religion. Jacob and Esau represent the two sides. Jacob was a farmer and plants seed, then harvests from the work. The work (Suffering) produces much more than what was sown. This is giving. Esau represents the hunter. The hunter can only take. He then uses what he takes by making other things (tools, clothing...) from what is taken. He does not plant anything back. This is reflective of our use of resources (Technology and Carbon). Why Carbon?
Carbon has 6 protons, 6 electrons and 6 neutrons. It is the mark of mankind and the resource we use to transmute God's fruit into our own. This is the fruit of knowledge. Go back now to the two types of sacrifice. One gives (God's will is to give and receive only) and the other takes (The will of the thief). Our fruit of knowledge kills the breath of God. The breath is Nitrogen (7 protons, 7 electrons and 7 neutrons) and Oxygen (888). Both of these numbers have great significance in relation to both God and Christ. The word of God overcomes the beast and the word is found in the breath.
Back to 1 Corinthians 10. The loaf of bread is what we eat. Adam is the Father of mankind. In John, Christ keeps referencing the Father. He then reveals the truth. If you have see Christ, you have seen the Father. They are one. How can this be if Corinthians makes a direct distinction between God and Christ? Christ even says that the Father is greater than him. Is this a paradox? No.
Colossians 1
15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. 17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. 19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, 20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.
Many passages in John reveal that God allows Christ to merge with himself. They are one, just as Jesus said, "I and the Father are one." There is a dual meaning in this. Not only is he one with God, he IS the Father. What Father? The Father of mankind. Jesus IS ADAM! The redeemer is the one that fell, but the error entered in by the woman.
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The further unveiling of the sacred secret shows us that Jesus Christ at his resurrection was granted a spirit body with immortality, something only his Father Jehovah had, before Jesus came to earth to die. And the fact, that each and every one of the anointed from earth who go to heaven to rule with Christ in kingdom glory will also receive immortal spirit bodies:
Jesus wasn't granted a spirit body. He even states it and shows us. He was bodily resurrected into our future changed bodies.
John 20:
19 On the evening of that first day of the week, when the disciples were together, with the doors locked for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood among them and said, “Peace be with you!” 20 After he said this, he showed them his hands and side. The disciples were overjoyed when they saw the Lord.
Though the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, “Peace be with you!” 27 Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe.”
Luke 24:
5 In their fright the women bowed down with their faces to the ground, but the men said to them, “Why do you look for the living among the dead? 6 He is not here; he has risen!"
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36 While they were still talking about this, Jesus himself stood among them and said to them, “Peace be with you.”
37 They were startled and frightened, thinking they saw a spirit. 38 He said to them, “Why are you troubled, and why do doubts rise in your minds? 39 Look at my hands and my feet. It is I myself! Touch me and see; a spirit does not have flesh and bones, as you see I have.”
40 When he had said this, he showed them his hands and feet. 41 And while they still did not believe it because of joy and amazement, he asked them, “Do you have anything here to eat?” 42 They gave him a piece of broiled fish, 43 and he took it and ate it in their presence.
Spirits do not eat, spirits do not have flesh and bones. Jesus bodily resurrected into a changed physical body, clearly one that doesn't appear to be 'spatially' limited. A seed must fall to the ground, be buried, before its new form can appear. His body was raised. So ours will be.
Additionally, the Word was made flesh.
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. John 1:1-2
The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth. John 1:14
So when you wrote "shows us that Jesus Christ at his resurrection was granted a spirit body with immortality, something only his Father Jehovah had, before Jesus came to earth to die", we can see here the error in your words. The Word, who existed from the beginning, was made flesh.
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Continued from previous post...
13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. 15 But women will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety.
The error enters in through the woman. She is saved by giving birth to humanity. As you stated in the top of your first post, the woman was the one deceived. Both were cast from Paradise due to the error. Adam then becomes the Heel (each side of the entire loaf) that crushes the head of Satan (The one that deceived). All of this is a cosmic story that originates before mankind engaged in the material world. The Cross is symbolic of the Son of God sacrificing Himself for mankind. The loaf is cut into pieces. All of humanity are slices of the original soul. On each end, we have the Son of God. He willingly participated in involution so that mankind could evolve and rise again.
Involution and Evolution are baptism. Immersion into the waters of life so that the many can rise again with the one.
See my lates thread on this topic.
Can I demonstrate this from scripture?
YES. I need three things: The Error. The solution. Baptism and being born again.
Job 19
25 I know that my redeemer[c] lives,
and that in the end he will stand on the earth.
26 And after my skin has been destroyed,
yet[e] in[f] my flesh I will see God;
27 I myself will see him
with my own eyes—I, and not another.
How my heart yearns within me!
28 “If you say, ‘How we will hound him,
since the root of the trouble lies in him,’
29 you should fear the sword yourselves;
for wrath will bring punishment by the sword,
and then you will know that there is judgment.”
Job knows his Redeemer. Who is the redeemer? He gives the clues.
1) Job will be born again.
2) He will see his redeemer in the flesh.
3) The error was in the redeemer.
One one side of the loaf, we have Adam who fell willingly with Eve. Two become one (Spirit and Soul) and a new thing is created. The two become one flesh. The Spirit involved into the material world as the error. The Soul comes willingly to become one with the Spirit. They rise again together. Can I show that Adam is both?
First, the sequence of events:
1 Corinthians 15
20 But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. 21 For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man. 22 For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. 23 But each in turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him. 24 Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. 25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death. 27 For he “has put everything under his feet.”[c] Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. 28 When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.
Then, the key:
1 Corinthians 15
If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. 45 So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living being”[f]; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit. 46 The spiritual did not come first, but the natural, and after that the spiritual.
Adam is Christ and the Son of God and the FIRST and LAST. We, who are many, are ONE Loaf. Because we have a redeemer, we all live. ALL!
In John, Jesus reveals that the "Prince of this World" is the only one that stands condemned, along with his fallen Angles. The Earth was the trial. Mankind rose above the error because of Adam, the one we are all inside.
John 3 then gives us the progression of water (Immersion) and Spirit baptism to overcome when Spirit and Soul come together in love. Union with God means transposing the mortal coil.
Continued from previous post...
13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. 15 But women will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety.
The error enters in through the woman. She is saved by giving birth to humanity. As you stated in the top of your first post, the woman was the one deceived. Both were cast from Paradise due to the error. Adam then becomes the Heel (each side of the entire loaf) that crushes the head of Satan (The one that deceived). All of this is a cosmic story that originates before mankind engaged in the material world. The Cross is symbolic of the Son of God sacrificing Himself for mankind. The loaf is cut into pieces. All of humanity are slices of the original soul. On each end, we have the Son of God. He willingly participated in involution so that mankind could evolve and rise again.
Involution and Evolution are baptism. Immersion into the waters of life so that the many can rise again with the one.
See my lates thread on this topic.
Can I demonstrate this from scripture?
YES. I need three things: The Error. The solution. Baptism and being born again.
Job 19
25 I know that my redeemer[c] lives,
and that in the end he will stand on the earth.
26 And after my skin has been destroyed,
yet[e] in[f] my flesh I will see God;
27 I myself will see him
with my own eyes—I, and not another.
How my heart yearns within me!
28 “If you say, ‘How we will hound him,
since the root of the trouble lies in him,’
29 you should fear the sword yourselves;
for wrath will bring punishment by the sword,
and then you will know that there is judgment.”
Job knows his Redeemer. Who is the redeemer? He gives the clues.
1) Job will be born again.
2) He will see his redeemer in the flesh.
3) The error was in the redeemer.
One one side of the loaf, we have Adam who fell willingly with Eve. Two become one (Spirit and Soul) and a new thing is created. The two become one flesh. The Spirit involved into the material world as the error. The Soul comes willingly to become one with the Spirit. They rise again together. Can I show that Adam is both?
First, the sequence of events:
1 Corinthians 15
20 But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. 21 For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man. 22 For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. 23 But each in turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him. 24 Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. 25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death. 27 For he “has put everything under his feet.”[c] Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. 28 When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.
Then, the key:
1 Corinthians 15
If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. 45 So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living being”[f]; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit. 46 The spiritual did not come first, but the natural, and after that the spiritual.
Adam is Christ and the Son of God and the FIRST and LAST. We, who are many, are ONE Loaf. Because we have a redeemer, we all live. ALL!
In John, Jesus reveals that the "Prince of this World" is the only one that stands condemned, along with his fallen Angles. The Earth was the trial. Mankind rose above the error because of Adam, the one we are all inside.
John 3 then gives us the progression of water (Immersion) and Spirit baptism to overcome when Spirit and Soul come together in love. Union with God means transposing the mortal coil.
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reply to post by CrypticSouthpaw
That was very well written and polite!!!
Extremely intelligent. You've done your schooling.
Funny how it's right there everywhere in the Bible.. ..and people miss it!
Orion is in the Bible also.
And why not..the constellation is the giver of life, the creator.
Kuodos to you my freind!
That was very well written and polite!!!
Extremely intelligent. You've done your schooling.
Funny how it's right there everywhere in the Bible.. ..and people miss it!
Orion is in the Bible also.
And why not..the constellation is the giver of life, the creator.
Kuodos to you my freind!
With no disrespect intended, I think it's important for others
to know 2000 years before Jesus, Isis, a virgin, was visited by Gods'
messenger Thoth.
Thoth revealed that Isis was pregnant and that her
child was the savior . A star in the east announcing his birth on Dec 25th.
And would be visited by 3 kings. Belt stars of Orion.
That Son,Horus, was called" the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world "
He performed miracles and was sacrificed for others. He was dead for 3 days and was reborn.
Isis or Mary or Virgo is the constellation the Sun last passes before it is judged by Libra.
The Sun (Son) is then wounded in the head by Scorpio (judas) and finally hit in the Heel
by the Archer Sagitarius.
Then Sun then dies in the underworld of Capricorn (the Goat) ruled by Saturn (Satan).
The Sun stops moving on the 22nd of December only to begin movement again 3 days later
on the 25th of December.
This is not Zeitgeist, it is the words of 33 degree masons for hundreds of years.
to know 2000 years before Jesus, Isis, a virgin, was visited by Gods'
messenger Thoth.
Thoth revealed that Isis was pregnant and that her
child was the savior . A star in the east announcing his birth on Dec 25th.
And would be visited by 3 kings. Belt stars of Orion.
That Son,Horus, was called" the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world "
He performed miracles and was sacrificed for others. He was dead for 3 days and was reborn.
Isis or Mary or Virgo is the constellation the Sun last passes before it is judged by Libra.
The Sun (Son) is then wounded in the head by Scorpio (judas) and finally hit in the Heel
by the Archer Sagitarius.
Then Sun then dies in the underworld of Capricorn (the Goat) ruled by Saturn (Satan).
The Sun stops moving on the 22nd of December only to begin movement again 3 days later
on the 25th of December.
This is not Zeitgeist, it is the words of 33 degree masons for hundreds of years.
Originally posted by sealing
This is not Zeitgeist, it is the words of 33 degree masons for hundreds of years.
No, it isn't, it's unsubstantiated rubbish.
not exactly. Its evident the links between Orion and earth. Some people think the bible is rubbish some people think the the Egyptian Sumerian and
mayan scriptures were also a joke. But besides that.
You can't really argue with pyramids and monuments that have withstood the sands of time. These being monuments to Orion.
But besides all this. The human race will always be subject to fantasy come true. Again and again. For something so prominent, its hard to think something isn't going on. People have tried recreating such structures out of granite and dirite but such things are impossible. This is where fantasy comes to life. And where we humans are slowly shown the pictures. One page at a time in the story book. For things shall be as forseen. The mystery was not to be understood by all at once. How ignorant it is to preach in temples from years passed ignoring the disciples who deciphered and added to the story. These people were wiped out and hunted by a few seeking power and control. Such sacred things as complex as life. Even with my knowledge i know nothing.
And i cannot know everything. But i will not deny my right to see or think. I have my right to turn off fear, For its a tool for only when i need it. I can look beyond my own thoughts and see others. But my opinions coming off as ignorant in the form of believing my perspective view on life is right and others is wrong. I know that i am not right. But it does not make my path any less truthful. As the paths i have taken converge on many beliefs, i am not neglecting. But rationalizing my knowledge from reading and experiences as well as my moral stances. In an instance where i feel my knowledge is above someone else's is when said person fails to grasp more then one idea. For a man with one book is not a librarian. A man who only reads one book and preaches it knows not of other books but his own. And the secrets of life were not meant to be found in one book. If things were so easy we all would have one town now would we? But we do not. We have many. Many converging paths with their own fragments of the truth.
Anyways thanks for listening to me talk i may only be 21 but my paranormal experiences allow me to bind the weaves of the unknown into the known. As i grow older i will grow stronger at this, and bind and weave secrets of old and new.
You can't really argue with pyramids and monuments that have withstood the sands of time. These being monuments to Orion.
But besides all this. The human race will always be subject to fantasy come true. Again and again. For something so prominent, its hard to think something isn't going on. People have tried recreating such structures out of granite and dirite but such things are impossible. This is where fantasy comes to life. And where we humans are slowly shown the pictures. One page at a time in the story book. For things shall be as forseen. The mystery was not to be understood by all at once. How ignorant it is to preach in temples from years passed ignoring the disciples who deciphered and added to the story. These people were wiped out and hunted by a few seeking power and control. Such sacred things as complex as life. Even with my knowledge i know nothing.
And i cannot know everything. But i will not deny my right to see or think. I have my right to turn off fear, For its a tool for only when i need it. I can look beyond my own thoughts and see others. But my opinions coming off as ignorant in the form of believing my perspective view on life is right and others is wrong. I know that i am not right. But it does not make my path any less truthful. As the paths i have taken converge on many beliefs, i am not neglecting. But rationalizing my knowledge from reading and experiences as well as my moral stances. In an instance where i feel my knowledge is above someone else's is when said person fails to grasp more then one idea. For a man with one book is not a librarian. A man who only reads one book and preaches it knows not of other books but his own. And the secrets of life were not meant to be found in one book. If things were so easy we all would have one town now would we? But we do not. We have many. Many converging paths with their own fragments of the truth.
Anyways thanks for listening to me talk i may only be 21 but my paranormal experiences allow me to bind the weaves of the unknown into the known. As i grow older i will grow stronger at this, and bind and weave secrets of old and new.
Originally posted by CrypticSouthpaw
not exactly. Its evident the links between Orion and earth.
If that's directed at me, no it is not. Horus was called " the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world "?
Bollocks.
He was born on 25 December of a virgin and was visited by three kings?
Rubbish. (Jesus was also not born on 25 December, or visited by three kings, but that's beside the point.)
There is a movement who claim nonsense like that in an effort to prove that Jesus is a myth. Unfortunately, there is absolutely no evidence for their claims and sufficient counter evidence (go look at what the ancient Egyptians really had to say about Horus.) It all goes back to an anti-Christian in the 19 Century named Gerald Massey, who made it all up.
Period.
The secret is 'The true nature of 'God'' which is the superconsciousness; light of life.
I posted a thread about this a few days ago if you want to read it.
ATS THREAD
A higher understanding of the true nature of the universe is coming and it will mean the end of religion.
It is written throughout the entire Bible, it has just been misinterpreted due to the detached nature of our existence.
I posted a thread about this a few days ago if you want to read it.
ATS THREAD
A higher understanding of the true nature of the universe is coming and it will mean the end of religion.
It is written throughout the entire Bible, it has just been misinterpreted due to the detached nature of our existence.
Originally posted by WhoKnows100
So when you wrote "shows us that Jesus Christ at his resurrection was granted a spirit body with immortality, something only his Father Jehovah had, before Jesus came to earth to die", we can see here the error in your words. The Word, who existed from the beginning, was made flesh.
Thank you for your commentary WhoKnows. And I realize that many people in Christendom are taught that Jesus was not raised up a spirit creature like his Father, but was raised up as a mortal flesh and blood person. But Actually I was not the one stating that he was the only one with immortality, that is what scripture states:
(1 Timothy 6:15, 16) . . .This [manifestation] the happy and only Potentate will show in its own appointed times, [he] the King of those who rule as kings and Lord of those who rule as lords, 16 the one alone having immortality, who dwells in unapproachable light, whom not one of men has seen or can see. . . .
This is part of the sacred secret that was kept hidden for long lasting times. Immortality is deathlessness, the impossibility of ever dying. Those raised to spirit life are given the divine nature, and are given spirit bodies like their Father Jehovah:
(John 4:24) . . .God is a Spirit, . . .
(2 Corinthians 3:17) Now Jehovah is the Spirit; and where the spirit of Jehovah is, there is freedom.
Jehovah is a spirit person. He is not visible to the human eye:
(1 Timothy 1:17) Now to the King of eternity, incorruptible, invisible, [the] only God, be honor and glory forever and ever. Amen.
When Jesus was raised from the dead he was given the divine nature and a body like Jehovah God's:
Now not one of mankind has ever seen God nor can anyone ever see God. For to see God would mean death, for no one can see God and yet live:
(John 1:18) No man has seen God at any time. . .
(Exodus 33:20) . . .And he added: “You are not able to see my face, because no man may see me and yet live.”
Yet when the anointed congregation, the 144,000 die and are raised to heaven they are given forms like that of Jehovah and then they will be able to see him face to face:
(1 John 3:2) Beloved ones, now we are children of God, but as yet it has not been made manifest what we shall be. We do know that whenever he is made manifest we shall be like him, because we shall see him just as he is.
But just to help you understand this important truth about the nature of God and his son, notice what God tells us in scripture by means of a revelation of the sacred secret:
(1 Corinthians 15:50) . . .However, this I say, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit God’s kingdom, neither does corruption inherit incorruption.
Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom. A human body cannot survive outside the earth's atmosphere, how much less could it go to the invisible spirit realm where Jehovah and the angels live.
Also think about it logically. A human body is subject to corruption. Even if it can live forever, if you were to severe the head off the body it will die. Also human bodies have human needs such as deficating, eating, sleeping. None of these things exist in the spirit realm where Jehovah God resides.
Jehovah relies on no one for life or sustenance. In fact Jehovah himself sustains all things. And his wonderful light is beyond imagining. No one can see him and live. And those from the earth that do go to heaven to live with him will NEVER see darkness. For God will be their sun. Yes, God is literally more brilliant than any star can ever be:
(Revelation 22:5) . . .Also, night will be no more, and they have no need of lamplight nor [do they have] sunlight, because Jehovah God will shed light upon them, and they will rule as kings forever and ever.
Perhaps your minds eye can be open to this thrilling understanding of Biblical truth. Jesus was not human was he was resurrected.
Now someone brought up the objection that Thomas saw the holes in Jesus' hands and feet where he was crucified. But does this prove that he was seeing Jesus' literal physical body that he had before he died? Of course not.
Actually if you read the full account you will see that it could not have been the same body for you see Jesus appeared to them in the middle of a locked room. He materlized in the middle of them from out of nowhere. Also there were several occasions when he met his apostles who knew him intimately and they did not know it was him, because had obviously assumed a physical form they were not used to seeing. They only realized it was him when Jesus opened their eyes to let them know it was him.
We who are in human form can only begin to fathom what Jesus looks like now in his glorified spirit body, but those who have been adopted as children of God, when they go to heaven, if they remain faithful to death, then they will see him as he is:
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