Originally posted by chasingbrahman
reply to post by hawkiye
Perhaps your childhood is littered by evidence that your burgeoning intellect and identity was essentially feckless, but many people have memories of being very young, and still having opinions about what was a toy for a girl, or what was clothing for a boy. I remember playing with dolls, but also finding happiness in being like my best friend who was a boy and playing with trucks. But I understand if you didn't draw these distinctions. It actually makes sense that you didn't, given your feedback.
Originally posted by slugger9787
reply to post by Miraj
my mother was a nurse
and my father three years
of med school,
then he joined the army
and fought in world war two.
I cannot ask my parents
"Did your parents neglect to raise you as if you had a brain?"
because they are both dead.
I do know this though, the last exray that I had detected one.
Since your post was not on the subject of the op i will firmly steer you back that way okay?
they also raised me like I was a son and a boy because I had a (SINEP) (note letters scrambled so as not to offend anyone if the scrambled word is not politically correct.)
If any of you are smart enough to unscramble the letters
because the scrambled letters are a body part that works better if it is ERECT.
Originally posted by Logos23
So the parent's are worried about their boy/girl being stigmatised by having to use a separate bathroom to the other student's?
I'm sorry...but I tend to think they have had little regard for that uptill now..not least because of all the publicity.
And they are pushing a "cause" under laws for protecting people who have transgender status...but I would like to know at what age this small child was given transgender status and who the hell gave it!?
There is no way that by the age of 6 this child as been given the space and time to grow and reflect and ponder over such an important decision about who he is.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Another point. These parents have 4 other kids. You think they just picked this one out to put her through this, to make some kind of public and political statement for their 15 minutes of fame? Really?
.edit on 3/2/2013 by Benevolent Heretic because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by chrome413
The other syblings are all girls.
It's pretty obvious to anyone with common sense what's going on here.
I will argue that 6 years old is too young to proclaim something as serious as being transgendered.
More than likely, in a few years, the boy will outgrow this phase.
The parents need to get their heads out of their asss because they are damaging the child more than they could imagine by pushing their PC crap on everyone. Kids shouldn't be used to make political statements.
P.S. the parents should be ashamed of themselves for using their child to push their social agenda. They represent what is wrong with parents in general and why the youth of today doesn't care to listen nor give a crap about authority.
There have always been people who defy gender norms. Late-19th-century medical literature described female “inverts” as appallingly straightforward, with a “dislike and sometimes incapacity for needlework” and “an inclination and taste for the sciences”; male inverts were “entirely averse to outdoor games.” By the mid-20th century, doctors were trying “corrective therapy” to extinguish atypical gender behaviors. The goal was preventing children from becoming gay or transgender, a term for those who feel they were born in the wrong body.
No one knows why most children ease into their assigned gender roles so effortlessly and others do not. Hormone levels might play a role. One hint is provided by a rare genetic condition known as congenital adrenal hyperplasia, or C.A.H. The condition produces high levels of androgens, including testosterone, early in gestation, and can create somewhat male-like genitalia in genetic females. Girls with C.A.H. are typically raised as females and given hormones to feminize, yet studies show they are more physically active and aggressive than the average girl, and more likely to prefer trucks, blocks and male playmates. Though most turn out to be heterosexual, women with C.A.H. are more likely to be lesbian or bisexual than women who weren’t bathed in prenatal androgen.
Genetics might also be a factor in gender expression. Researchers have compared the gendered behavior of identical twins (who share 100 percent of their genes) with that of fraternal twins (who share roughly half). The largest study was a 2006 Dutch survey of twins, 14,000 at age 7 and 8,500 at age 10. The study concluded that genes account for 70 percent of gender-atypical behavior in both sexes. Exactly what is inherited, however, remains unclear: the specific behavior preferences, the impulse to associate with the other gender, the urge to reject limits imposed on them — or something else entirely.
So, you think there is nothing more to this than parents using their child to make a statement? Your concern doesn't seem to be for the child - this is about what you dislike about the child's parents
Here, we investigated the rationality of choices and the possible occurrence of judgment errors in children aged 3 to 9 years when exposed to a risky trade. Children were allocated with a piece of cookie that they could either keep or risk in exchange of the content of one cup among 6, visible in front of them......Children aged 3 to 4 years old were unable to discriminate the profitability of exchanging in the different combinations.
We found that young children showed the strongest preference for risky compared to sure bet options of equal expected value
The overall point being that the APA’s taxonomy is nothing more than self-serving nonsense. Real illnesses are not banished by voting or by fiat, but by valid science and hard work. There are no mental illnesses. Rather, there are people. We have problems; we have orientations; we have habits; we have perspectives. Sometimes we do well, other times we make a mess of things. We are complicated. Our feelings fluctuate with our circumstances, from the depths of despondency to the pinnacles of bliss. And perhaps, most of all, we are individuals. DSM’s facile and self-serving attempt to medicalize human problems is an institutionalized insult to human dignity.
What does your gut tell you? Do you think we can teach - or force - a small child to 'act' girl or 'act' boy?
I didn't say anything about offensive remarks. I was referring to childish and immature insults in an attempt to be cute and show off for everyone on ATS.
The parents are neglecting to raise him as a
son and boy which he clearly is according to his plumbing
I've always thought the word "offended" was just another way of saying "I wear my feelings on my sleeve and you just hurt my feelings! Boo Hoo" Don't ever let them know they got to you.
The giant chip on your shoulder must be blocking your field of vision. Because you seem to be unable to read the words on the pages, much less comprehend them without jumping to preconceived conclusions, which makes discussing anything further with you, pointless.
It would be a boring world if everyone agreed.
the point most people here are making (who are against this, or find it disturbing) is that he is too young to understand the lasting consequences of having a sex change operation.
Originally posted by Bob Sholtz
reply to post by Spiramirabilis
the point most people here are making (who are against this, or find it disturbing) is that he is too young to understand the lasting consequences of having a sex change operation. the brain/mind hasn't formed into a constant state. this is why young children go through "phases". even if you argue that this "phase" has lasted long enough for it not to be a phase (it hasn't, because his brain still has a high amount of plasticity), the positive attention/praise from the parents is easily enough to account for the longevity.
he is too young to have knowledge of what a sex change operation is, so how did he know to ask when he could have one as the parents stated? he was 4 at the time.
the "risk vs. reward" studies outline how young children don't understand CONSEQUENCES. they don't understand how to get more cookies (i.e. happiness/pleasure) than random chance would provide them with. their desires rapidly fluctuate with their neurons rewiring in response to positive and negative stimuli. a child might love "thomas the tank engine" and get bed sheets and wall paper in their room, then a few years later want to change it all. this is the problem. a sex change leaves permanent alterations that cannot be undone.
as for someone having a male body, and a female mind or vice versa? what are you defining "mind" as? did you know a person's hand preference can be changed in a few seconds completely by stimulating different neurons? males and females have physically different brains. i would employ occam's razor here. is it more likely with what we know that a person with a male body is somehow actually female? if yes, then what about them is female? testosterone makes the brain male before the child is even born.
“She started saying things like, ‘When are we going to go to the doctor to get me fixed?’” -Kathryn Mathis
And - do you suppose maybe she is aware of her situation - and this is what's been troubling her? Maybe they did mention the possibility - so what if they did? At least then they'd be up front honest about what's possible and what's not - good for them
But you believe she's been indoctrinated :-)