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Another one! Beyonce' admits to being demon possessed.

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posted on Mar, 1 2013 @ 02:37 PM
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Originally posted by Quoop
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What happens to those who are from different religions? Would God simply cast them into Hell because they were brought up else where with a different religion?


Well the Bible is explicit in that Jesus is the only way. But ultimately that's His judgment to make. I can't answer your question.


If God is love, I hope he would have the heart to save them.


Well that's the problem. Everyone wants to focus on the Most High's love, but they want to ignore that He's also a Just and Holy God. So His love is one thing; his justice and judgment is another.


This is why many people can't take your "personal experience" evidence seriously.


I'm not asking people to.


What about those who are on remote islands and have never heard the word of God or Jesus?


That's between them and the Most High.




posted on Mar, 1 2013 @ 02:38 PM
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What about those who are on remote islands and have never heard the word of God or Jesus? How could it be fair that they would spend an eternity in Hell for simply not knowing. Serious questions I hope someone could answer. And I mean no disrspect to you and your beliefs, just curious is all.


What was Christ while he was here ? Righteous and true ! You also misunderstand about who will suffer for an eternity. Trust in the Lord as you have heard. You will have no excuse. In other words, worry about yourself. That's a big enough job for you.



posted on Mar, 1 2013 @ 02:39 PM
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Originally posted by Murgatroid


What Lazarus speaks of has NOTHING to do with religion.

Truth and religion are two entirely different subjects.


Exactly! I'm one of the first to point out that what is called modern Christianity is very different from what the Scripture teaches. And modern Christianity (as well as other forms of religion) are used by the Powers That Be, the Illuminati, to control the masses. And they also teach pagan doctrines. Heck, look at the Illuminati-controlled Salafi movement in Saudi Arabia.

Faith in the Elohim Godhead is not the same as Christianity.



posted on Mar, 1 2013 @ 02:39 PM
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Islam explains everything

Bible, Tohrah and Koran have Abraham. Live life like his teachings, and you shall be rewarded with paradise.
Ones who dont know, shall be judged upon their actions.
Good deeds versus bad deeds. Think and act with brain, or think and act with hearth.

My vieuw



posted on Mar, 1 2013 @ 02:42 PM
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Is that how god reached out to you?



posted on Mar, 1 2013 @ 02:43 PM
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posted on Mar, 1 2013 @ 02:44 PM
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Well I sought Him out and then He revealed Himself to me.



posted on Mar, 1 2013 @ 02:48 PM
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posted on Mar, 1 2013 @ 02:55 PM
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I have earnestly looked for god. To be honest with you I wish I had the same conviction and faith that you have.



posted on Mar, 1 2013 @ 02:55 PM
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Originally posted by LazarusTsiyr

Originally posted by Quoop
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Well that's the problem. Everyone wants to focus on the Most High's love, but they want to ignore that He's also a Just and Holy God. So His love is one thing; his justice and judgment is another.


Would a Just and Holy God condemn people to an eternity in Hell for simply not knowing? Doesn't sound like a Just and Holy God to me. Kinda sounds like Satan



posted on Mar, 1 2013 @ 02:57 PM
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Well you're not God and His ways are different from our ways. And I don't know if He will condemn those to Hell who have never heard the Gospel at all. You don't know that either.

So like Murgatroid said, you should be worried about your own salvation. Not everyone else's. Work out yours and then you can help work out everyone else's.

But go ahead and compare God to Satan. You've shown that you don't desire an honest discussion on this topic.

Peace be unto you. This will be my last response to you also
edit on 1-3-2013 by LazarusTsiyr because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 1 2013 @ 02:58 PM
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Well, its kinda funny what celebs willing to do nowadays to remain in spotlight. Lol


 
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posted on Mar, 1 2013 @ 03:01 PM
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Originally posted by arpgme
I'm not saying that your "God" does not exist. I am saying that your "God" is just another spirit entity seeking power and control. This is why the threats are necessary because your god has limited control.

By the way, you DO know that people from other religions make it to Heavenly NDEs too, right?

Once again, you describe yourself perfectly, almost comically in fact.

I think at this point many here are wondering why you APPEAR to believe things that are such obvious lies.

FYI: people from other religions ALSO make it to hell BTW...

A young Ecuadorian girl named Angelica has seen Pope John Paul II in hell.

A Buddhist monk in Myanmar (who had NO knowledge of Christianity BTW) saw Buddha in hell, was raised from the dead which caused 300 monks to turn to Jesus.

A South Korean pastor saw Muhammad in Hell crying out with a warning to others to flee Islam and follow JESUS:


South Korean pastor, Bo Ra Choi has seen visions of hell for several years. She has seen many people in hell. She saw Muhammad suffering in hell.

Pastor Bo Ra Choi words convey a powerful statement as to the AGONY that the False Prophet Muhammad is enduring. Each Soul that enters hell because they followed the lie of Islam increases Muhammad's suffering. In the video Muhammad begs those being mislead by Satan through Islam to flee Islam and follow the Divine Son of GOD JESUS CHRIST.




posted on Mar, 1 2013 @ 03:08 PM
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posted on Mar, 1 2013 @ 03:10 PM
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Originally posted by Murgatroid

Originally posted by arpgme
I'm not saying that your "God" does not exist. I am saying that your "God" is just another spirit entity seeking power and control. This is why the threats are necessary because your god has limited control.

By the way, you DO know that people from other religions make it to Heavenly NDEs too, right?

Once again, you describe yourself perfectly, almost comically in fact.

I think at this point many here are wondering why you APPEAR to believe things that are such obvious lies.

FYI: people from other religions ALSO make it to hell BTW...

A young Ecuadorian girl named Angelica has seen Pope John Paul II in hell.

A Buddhist monk in Myanmar (who had NO knowledge of Christianity BTW) saw Buddha in hell, was raised from the dead which caused 300 monks to turn to Jesus.

A South Korean pastor saw Muhammad in Hell crying out with a warning to others to flee Islam and follow JESUS:


South Korean pastor, Bo Ra Choi has seen visions of hell for several years. She has seen many people in hell. She saw Muhammad suffering in hell.

Pastor Bo Ra Choi words convey a powerful statement as to the AGONY that the False Prophet Muhammad is enduring. Each Soul that enters hell because they followed the lie of Islam increases Muhammad's suffering. In the video Muhammad begs those being mislead by Satan through Islam to flee Islam and follow the Divine Son of GOD JESUS CHRIST.





Uhm.. so it turns out God is as sadistic as been purported? lol



posted on Mar, 1 2013 @ 03:10 PM
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"Well the Bible is explicit in that Jesus is the only way"

Your words, not mine.

You then follow up and say that you don't actually know. This is why you have many skeptics. You try to prove a point with no evidence, and then ultimately contradict yourself. It seems that you actually don't KNOW anything, and simply believe.

And when someone scrutinizes your flawed evidence you get upset and say stuff like "you should be worried about your own salvation". Once again, your words. Typical responses, I'm not surprised.

I'll leave you to your crazy reality.

Peace be unto you aswell.



posted on Mar, 1 2013 @ 03:10 PM
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Murg ! That was excruciating.

I don't know what else to say.



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posted on Mar, 1 2013 @ 03:19 PM
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Wow, what a thread. I got a splitting headach now from reading just 20 pages in.
I agree with your point 100%, I'm also really glad to see how you held your ground.

Two questions, sorry if you coverd this alread.
1. In your mind is there a distinction between someone who is under mindcontrol verses demonic possession?

2. In bring all this to light do you see the potential for snotty rebrlious teenager to cling to the filth more in an act rebellion?

Reason I ask.
Way back in the 80s, in youth group we had to watch a documentary called Hells Bells, where they called out Zeplin for back masking and Ozzy for satiric rituals, along with all the glam band sexual agenda. As 14 year old no-it-all I was more curious than tuned off, as we're most of the kids in our youth group.


This has been so enjoyable to read through. Thanks Laz,

Getting Advil now.



posted on Mar, 1 2013 @ 03:22 PM
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Originally posted by Observationalist

1. In your mind is there a distinction between someone who is under mindcontrol verses demonic possession?


You mean like MK-Ultra stuff? I'm not entirely familiar with it so I can't really speak on that.


2. In bring all this to light do you see the potential for snotty rebrlious teenager to cling to the filth more in an act rebellion?


Possibly. But even if that's a factor, we shouldn't shy away from exposing the truth. Some may rebel, but how many more will heed the truth?



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