Who is "Yahweh", "Jesus", "Lucifer", and "Satan"? (Explaination Here)

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posted on Feb, 28 2013 @ 08:57 AM
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Yahweh is the god of the bible. He caused a flood in an attempt to destroy the human race with water and he wished to do it again with fire. Yahweh/Jehovah is Enlil of the ancient Sumerian Texts (Sumerian language is the oldest we know of). Enlil was in charge of Eden but he wanted to use humans as slaves, but Enki was against this and started to have sex with the humans to make them have more god-like nature. He gave them them knowledge so that they can have free-will and be smart like them which God/Yahweh/Enlil did not like. He tried to destroy the world with the flood but according to Sumerian texts Enki prevented it by telling a man about it and therefore humanity was saved.

Enki is Lucifer, The Serpent/Dragon God. Enki litterally means "God of earth" and the bible says numerous times that Satan (Their enemy - Lucifer) is the god of earth. Lucifer/Enki is also Prometheus. The being in the religion that rebels against the God(s) to give humanity Knowledge/Fire, that is another name for Lucifer, even if the stories may be a bit different across the cultures. In the bible he is referred to as a "fallen angel" (he left Anu/Tao/Heaven - as he did not like their methods and treatments of humans and how they responded when he gave man knowledge), he is also referred to as a "serpent" or "The Red Dragon".


Some people say that "Jesus" IS Yahweh/Jehovah/God. I'm not sure how they got this idea when the bible clearly says that Jesus is The only "BEGOTTEN SON" of God. Another lie that people seem to believe, is that Yahweh is Satan. He is NOT! Yahweh does NOT like Satan because Satan is OK with materialism and the ways of nature while Yahweh is aggressive and wants to control things in whatever way he wants. Yahweh contradicts himself because he makes up whatever rules he wants in the moment for control. With Jesus, the great manipulation was to get people to accept the "new" rules of Jesus such as "turn the other cheek" this will allow people to stay calm submissive and continue to take abuse.

Satan simply means "enemy/adversary", this can refer to an "angel" (messenger/servant) that Yahweh sends to see if people will be obedient, or it can mean "Lucifer" or as originally Set (Satan). Satan is not "The Red Dragon" he is "The Black Dragon" (or though the bible refers to both as satan meaning something like "enemy").

The Light is Anu (Heaven/Tao), it is order, the way that things function. The Darkness is Chaos, Abzu, The Abyss. Both of these are forces of two different natures and as both fight, there seems to form a pattern/cycle.

There are light-beings and dark-beings fighting behind the scenes. You can not have both.

You are either a being of Chaos (Freedom/Darkness) or a being of Control (Order/Light).




posted on Feb, 28 2013 @ 09:06 AM
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Arpgme below is Gods 10 commandments. Please say yes or no each one whether your agree or not. If you say no write your own version. At the end of the exercise we will all understand Lucifers 10 commandments (which i take you are aligned with Lucifer).




1. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

2. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

3.Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain; for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

4.Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

5.Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee.

6.Thou shalt not kill.


7.Thou shalt not commit adultery.


8.Thou shalt not steal.

9.Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

10.Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.


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posted on Feb, 28 2013 @ 09:26 AM
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These 10 commandments can be traced back to The Egyptian Book of The Dead, also, did you know that there were two different sets of 10 commandments in the bible?

If I had to make my own commandments it would be this simple "use your free-will to be your own individual and allow the same for all others (in other words - don't steal or force upon others against their will).

Who am I aligned to? I am aligned to seeking knowledge/truth.



posted on Feb, 28 2013 @ 09:54 AM
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I bring chaos to order.
edit on 28-2-2013 by ErgoTheConclusion because: Necker cubes are neato.



posted on Feb, 28 2013 @ 09:59 AM
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I see, so you are just one of the many light beings forcing chaos (darkness/freedom) into control (order/light). This is all New Age seems to teach nowadays "light" this and "light' that....



posted on Feb, 28 2013 @ 10:05 AM
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There you have the REAL 10 Commandments! Exodus 34:




10And he said, Behold, I make a covenant: before all thy people I will do marvels, such as have not been done in all the earth, nor in any nation: and all the people among which thou art shall see the work of the LORD: for it is a terrible thing that I will do with thee.
11Observe thou that which I command thee this day: behold, I drive out before thee the Amorite, and the Canaanite, and the Hittite, and the Perizzite, and the Hivite, and the Jebusite.
12Take heed to thyself, lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land whither thou goest, lest it be for a snare in the midst of thee:
13But ye shall destroy their altars, break their images, and cut down their groves:
14For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:
15Lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land, and they go a whoring after their gods, and do sacrifice unto their gods, and one call thee, and thou eat of his sacrifice;
16And thou take of their daughters unto thy sons, and their daughters go a whoring after their gods, and make thy sons go a whoring after their gods.
17Thou shalt make thee no molten gods.
18The feast of unleavened bread shalt thou keep. Seven days thou shalt eat unleavened bread, as I commanded thee, in the time of the month Abib: for in the month Abib thou camest out from Egypt.
19All that openeth the matrix is mine; and every firstling among thy cattle, whether ox or sheep, that is male.
20But the firstling of an ass thou shalt redeem with a lamb: and if thou redeem him not, then shalt thou break his neck. All the firstborn of thy sons thou shalt redeem. And none shall appear before me empty.
21Six days thou shalt work, but on the seventh day thou shalt rest: in earing time and in harvest thou shalt rest.
22And thou shalt observe the feast of weeks, of the firstfruits of wheat harvest, and the feast of ingathering at the year's end.
23Thrice in the year shall all your menchildren appear before the LORD God, the God of Israel.
24For I will cast out the nations before thee, and enlarge thy borders: neither shall any man desire thy land, when thou shalt go up to appear before the LORD thy God thrice in the year.
25Thou shalt not offer the blood of my sacrifice with leaven; neither shall the sacrifice of the feast of the passover be left unto the morning.
26The first of the firstfruits of thy land thou shalt bring unto the house of the LORD thy God. Thou shalt not seethe a kid in his mother's milk.
27And the LORD said unto Moses, Write thou these words: for after the tenor of these words I have made a covenant with thee and with Israel.


So please, learn the real commandments and than start to ask questions..... the typical 10 commandments are complete BS and any objective thinker can figure this out easily.



posted on Feb, 28 2013 @ 10:09 AM
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The bible says "turn the other cheek", not to control you but to free you. The bible says "turn the other cheek" because it is the path to love.

And oh boy do we ever "turn the other cheek", to all the immorality and sexuality that is taking over our culture. But when it comes to avoiding an argument with a loved one all too often do we fail to "turn the other cheek."

Do you realize that for the last at least 4000 man has used war as a way to achive peace? Guess what we still don't have peace. I guess war doesn't really work. Maybe "turn the other cheek", is a better path to peace.

You may argue that if we all turn the other cheek that eventually we will become slaves to those who refuse to turn the other cheek.

This is where faith comes in. When you do what God says it is fair to expect a Godly outcome.
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posted on Feb, 28 2013 @ 10:27 AM
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Obviously not, there is still a struggle to legalize gay marriage; sexuality (in general) is still looked down upon. As for morality, that is a PERSONAL preference, depending on your VIEWS/RELIGIONS it may be different.

Jesus lied making false prophecies and promoting submission with "faith" (even when the false prophecy was NOT fulfilled).
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posted on Feb, 28 2013 @ 10:43 AM
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Read it again.



posted on Feb, 28 2013 @ 10:51 AM
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He caused a flood in an attempt to destroy the human race with water


Stop right there. The purpose of the flood was to destroy the Nephillim. Noah and his family were the last ones alive without defiled DNA.



posted on Feb, 28 2013 @ 10:54 AM
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If you truly were an 'objective thinker' you'd know that there are 613 commandments in the Torah.



posted on Feb, 28 2013 @ 10:57 AM
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Originally posted by arpgme
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Obviously not, there is still a struggle to legalize gay marriage; sexuality (in general) is still looked down upon. As for morality, that is a PERSONAL preference, depending on your VIEWS/RELIGIONS it may be different.

Jesus lied making false prophecies and promoting submission with "faith" (even when the false prophecy was NOT fulfilled).
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This is new news, please tell which prophecy Christ made that was NOT fulfilled. (Besides of course the ones made regarding the end of the age and beyond.)



posted on Feb, 28 2013 @ 11:16 AM
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Originally posted by arpgme
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Obviously not, there is still a struggle to legalize gay marriage; sexuality (in general) is still looked down upon. As for morality, that is a PERSONAL preference, depending on your VIEWS/RELIGIONS it may be different.

Jesus lied making false prophecies and promoting submission with "faith" (even when the false prophecy was NOT fulfilled).
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In its current state sexuality should be looked down on. We are way too oversexed. When men are plotting to gang rape women on a bus I think this is evidence that we are oversexed. We see more sex by the age of 15 than the average human would have encountered in 5 lifetimes only a few hundred years ago.

It is impossible for most women to separate sex and emotion. Because of this it is absolutely imperative that women only have sex with someone they are in love with and are in a committed relationship.

When men have sex they become addicted to that sex. Meaning; if a man masturbates to porn he will become addicted to porn. If a man goes to a prostitute he will become addicted to prostitutes. If a man fantasizes about rape, or becomes addicted to watching simulated rape porn, he will become addicted to rape. This is both physical and psychological. Sex releases drugs into your system, and like any drug addict you desire more of the drug, so you go back to the source, whatever that source may be.

The bible actually says this about the above condition. In the bible it says God gives them over to their sinful desires. Meaning if you desire something sinful enough, God will make that desire consume you. God is making the claim that he is the one who bound you to your addiction. This was your judgment, you became bound by addiction to your sin. You see most people that admit they have an addiction want to eliminate that addiction.

When your addiction pertains to something that would cause you to sin and you can't seem to let go of the addiction, than you know that it is God that has given you over to this addiction.

Since God is the one who gave you over to this addiction he is the only one who can free you from it. the bible says if you repent and return to righteous ways that God will return to you and you will overcome not just your current sin/addiction, but all sin and addiction.

It is that simple. Repent, turn to God and you will be forgiven. You know you will be forgiven because God is love and love keeps no record of wrongdoing.
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posted on Feb, 28 2013 @ 11:50 AM
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So much for turning the other cheek. Such contradictions. There is no need for any "repentance" because nothing "wrong' has never been done in all of existence. Human is being human. This is the way it is. The thing will have qualities of its own existence, duh. So if God is against nature then that is too bad.

It is YOU who is being manipulated with unnatural views. You can get away from that god and be free .



posted on Feb, 28 2013 @ 12:38 PM
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Well, talking about books written by man and claimed to be told by God is already an amusing subject. Where the all knowing man can not make right decisions or sucks at his job is also another subject to think and laugh about.

If a god can not design a short and simple law list, than he simply sucks. all the rules are coming like: "Oh by the way...... behold, you shall do this and not do that"..... Why should a script writer be more intelligent than the reader itself? OP gives a correct claim... stay with that. We are dealing with people here, no paranormalities or spiritual angel BS!

How do you look at people today, when they say "God told me so!" - do you percieve them as "sane"? But the very first guy who claimed this, is the one who is mostly credited... for what? For his love or for his insanity? His "fantasy" dad did not helped and he found him self nailed on the cross (however the story is a fiction). This is called "reality".... You disturb some people, well, than you get hurt - that simple is that.

You need no books or teachers unless you grasp the fundamental law of the universe: what you put in is what you get out! Love and Peace is just a BS fantasy sold by the snakeoil traders like religion sellers. Both things are just unachieveable and that is why the story sells itself. People want to get a piece of something that does not exist at all.... just another fantasy for the alice in wonderland fans.

Do you know what I do with people who turn their other cheek? I smash them down for their damn weakness. Losers have nothing to do in the nature where the only law of the nature rules. Weaks (aka Losers) are "always" lose. Love stories make them feel just comfortable and so they try to forget their cheek-ache. Fantasy land does not hurt you, but the reality does.... learn to deal with it!

I just cant stand subjective thinking sub-humans.... Jesus loves you in a cross-nailed position.
That looks very lovely to me.

Lucifer loves you too



posted on Feb, 28 2013 @ 12:45 PM
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Do you know what the term non sequitur means?



posted on Feb, 28 2013 @ 05:35 PM
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You could of at least said yes or no against each commandment. That doesnt compromise your values of exercising free and being your own individual to identify which ones you agree or dont agree with. In fact if you cant place yes or no against each one its indicating to me a lack of individuality and freedom within you to make the decisions.



If I had to make my own commandments it would be this simple "use your free-will to be your own individual and allow the same for all others (in other words - don't steal or force upon others against their will).


Please try again im interested in seeing what your individual "freedom thinking". opinion is on each commandment.

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posted on Feb, 28 2013 @ 05:39 PM
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I see, so you are just one of the many light beings forcing chaos (darkness/freedom) into control (order/light). This is all New Age seems to teach nowadays "light" this and "light' that....


What type of light being is ISIS? Is she into freedom or is she another New Age light being teaching the nowadays "light" this and "light' that....
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posted on Feb, 28 2013 @ 11:02 PM
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Exactly


Even what I'm saying here wouldn't matter but people choose to base their lives in this "god" so while they're doing that I might as well tell them the real story of their "god" by back-tracing the story to ancient times.

Christianity promote human sacrifice. It also promotes zombism, worshiping the dead which came back to life (Jesus), symbolically eating the flesh and blood of Jesus. The belief of being raised from the dead and then worshiping God for all eternity. It is zombie worship.

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My individual choice / creativity was to get out of the dualistic choice of "yes" and "no" and to create my own third option of rejecting them all and CREATING a simplistic one.



posted on Mar, 1 2013 @ 01:02 AM
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My God is love. I worship love. You can choose whatever path you like. I perfer you walk down the path toward love but I have to follow love with or without you.





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