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reply posted on 4-3-2013 @ 12:13 PM by EL1A5
reply to post by booki3


Hello there,

I find it sad that you have to go through such horrible things. You need find yourself again, as well as try and find a way to still your thoughts, silence your mind(mediatation or prayer), after all they are your thoughts.

The "unmotivating" tactic is to lower you spiritual energy, which has been clear in your post about feeling sluggish or like an elderly, as well as your losing faith in God. With a lower energy level you become more submissive to them.

A good place, in my opinion, to find some sort of relief, would be at a temple, shrine or church. Spiritual energy is usually stronger in these places. I prefer a temple or shrine, but for you perhaps a church, in reference to God. You may find it easier to take control of your thoughts there.

A question though, can you think of anyone that you really pissed off? From reading your post the actions seem to be of Wicca/Voodoo origin. If that is the case I believe they would recommend, correct me if I'm wrong you carrying some sage or a crystal in your pocket.

Just do not lose faith, especially in yourself, you are stronger than they are believe it or not. They need you because to them you are a platform. You must deny them that platform to carry out such grotesque actions. It is yours and yours only. Take control of your thoughts and most of all your life. You must find yourself.

Please, if you ever feel the need to do something stupid to yourself or another person, please go to a hospital or some place where you could get direct help immediately.

You are stronger than them.
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reply posted on 4-3-2013 @ 04:44 PM by tetra50

I find it sad that you have to go through such horrible things. You need find yourself again, as well as try and find a way to still your thoughts, silence your mind(mediatation or prayer), after all they are your thoughts.

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While I agree with primarily everything you state after this, in advising this OP, I have to take exception to this, above, especially in light of the overall point of the OP, which was that the woman is, in her words, suffering attacks from evil beings. In her descriptions, she clearly, and quite graphically, , describes physical manifestations of what she is experiencing, and describes them in a way specifically to delineate that they are not the responses of her body originating, as physical movements and feelings do, usually, from her brain impulses, whether involving the sympathetic, autonomic nervous system or more direct responses from imput/stimuli.

Rather, she is describing, to the best of her ability, I suppose, what it is to be completely manipulated by exterior, remote controls.

If these physical reactions are remotely induced, obviously, many of her thoughts may very well likely be, as well. And so, just because she "hears" them audibly in her mind, does not at all mean that they are, indeed, her thoughts at all.


Assuming that they are just because they are in her ears, does not mean they originate from her brain, and simply puts you in the category of responders who see her situation as one of probably audible hallicinations as a result of an afflicted mind.... So, though your response to her appears through careful and sympathetic language as less judgemental than those who outright tell her she is displaying schizophrenic symptoms and should seek help from a mental health professional, that statement alone slots her there, and denies the whole idea of introduced voice to skull interference from a remote location via whatever of the many technologies which make this possible, many of which arepatented and proven to be in use.

If this is the case with her, then they are certainly NOT her thoughts, nor is she responsible for them. She is only hearing them, and hearing them does not mean at all they are a product of her brain, or that she is responsible for them, as your words imply. Not understanding this highly important difference is quite monumental both to the interpretation, and addressing of the problem. It is also a response that someone who is beleagered with this problem does not need to hear at all, for the things being heard can be so horrifying that to accept that they are your thoughts could be just what one needed to go over that edge.....

Another poster here said it couldn't be that bad, just go for a run or a walk....displaying totaly ignorance of just how personality shattering a denigrating, constant, insulting voice in your mind which does not originate from your brain nor belong to you can be.....it is a psychological rape of your most private, personal space on a moment by moment basis, making every second of your life a living nightmare there seems to be no escape from.
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reply posted on 5-3-2013 @ 01:40 PM by Murgatroid
Demons, just like vacuum cleaner salesmen, will use ANY doorway you leave open.

FACT: you do NOT have to put up with them...

One thing I DO know is that God not only KNOWS what is happening,

He also knows how to make it go whatever it is...

You have my prayers and blessings...

The links below are from Norvel Hayes, who is considered an authority on the subject and he has much experience in successfully dealing with them:

How To Make The Devil Leave You Alone

You need to learn from someone who specializes in dealing with them. Norvel Hayes is THE man to learn from if you want to learn HOW to get rid of these things.

How to Cast Out Devils - Norvel Hayes

This first video of Norvel Hayes tells about the miraculous deliverance of a 21 year old guy in Chattanooga, TN. He had totally lost his mind, but after Dr. Hayes ministered by praying for him all night long, his mind was completely restored back to him by the power of God:



How To Make The Devil Leave You Alone


Don't Give The Devil A Choice


Lester Sumrall is well known for his encounter with the "invisible boy"

Cornelio Closa, the disappearing boy

The story of the invisible boy is true. It is a story to which I was intimately related. It is about a young Filipino boy who was tormented by an alien entity for more than a year.

This spirit would cause him to disappear from a classroom at school or from his home. Cornelio’s father would nail the doors and windows shut, but Cornelio did not need natural openings to get in and out of the house.

The parents told me that the whole family would be in the front room of their home and their children would be down on the floor playing. Suddenly, with everybody looking, Cornelio would just disappear. The other children would start coughing and vomiting because of the stench that he would leave behind.

Because of his disappearing from the classroom, the boy’s school teacher had a nervous breakdown and never recuperated sufficiently to teach again. We investigated the whole matter very carefully. We didn’t want the slightest possibility of falsehood or misrepresentation in it, because we made a film of it. It is surely one of the most well-documented cases in our files.

‘No doubt, this is the greatest miracle outside of the Bible, and as great as any miracle in the Bible’. ~ Rev. H. A. Baker:

Lester Sumrall, Alien Entities pages 141-148 Source









reply posted on 5-3-2013 @ 05:40 PM by CrypticSouthpaw
reply to post by hopethishelps


Okay. You speak of demons/djinn I saw you mention fallen angels. half human half angel. I don't see how you jump the gun on God. You were on the right path, but you over shoot it like everyone else. God is an alien to bro. So. Its not that every alien is an angel, Well they are... but to a god that you a saying exists? no. Not even among their people are such a thing exists. And its among *their people* are completely different cultures. Non of which talk of what you speak of. Even among all the ancient scriptures non speaks of this. Life for us started in Orion. But not the universe. The beings who evolved there had many troubled much like we humans do today. They evolved further and the problems escalated further. They separated into 2 factions. The fallen and the Protectors. The protectors are the benevolent living on the Orion right now. But we are not the only creations of Orion, There are others in this solar system. The others were created are now the coined fallen we speak of.
There are dark forces of Orion here. Such known places are skin walker ranch and various other location associated with the shape-shifting black dogs.

Since they are harboring here, The Pleiades is are here already and want to lure them out. Currently Orion is at war with the Pleiades in the the beatleguies solar system. The nephlim were created by these Pleiades coming and basically raping people. Then they saw the weapon and yeah. Things happen. Some of the nephilem hide in caves. the others well. Were wiped out. They were not invited to house party going on downstairs.


reply posted on 10-3-2013 @ 01:02 AM by booki3
reply to post by Night Star


Thanks for the reply. I did get an MRI and they found nothing. I'm looking into TMS which is like the last stitch effort for a scitzophrenic person. My Dr. says he knows where in the brain they are tapping into and think the TMS will help. Yes my Dr. actually believes me. He's treating it like a case of I am being poisoned my external forces.
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