BREAKING: Hugo Chavez Is Dead, page 4


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reply posted on 27-2-2013 @ 09:05 PM by Wrabbit2000
reply to post by VaterOrlaag


I tend to hate those who hate me on general principle if nothing else. He had little but hateful and vile things to say about we folks in the North unless he was nationalizing (read STEALING Oil company sites and equipment to make his own and personal profit machines).

It's not about listening to the media anyway... If you've kept up on Venezuelan news from Caracas news sources, he's been far from the most favored leader, to be very kind about it. The people some suggest loved him, sure had a funny way of showing it in the streets as often as they did. It wasn't love in the air, to be sure.

For those who say he was elected as if it had any comparison to the Untied States whatsoever in election procedures...again, check LOCAL Venezuelan news on that matter. Elected is a relative term in some nations. Saddam Hussein, for instance, was elected too. 99% of the vote, sure as anything. Corruption is downright institutional in some places, in ways the U.S. has never seen. Venezuela is one of those places, IMO.

In the end though, the guy was just a socialist jerk. I do NOT like Socialists in any form and I never have. Not HIS brand of it, anyway.

Chavez's influence over Latin America's left-leaning governments has often rankled the United States, Venezuela's largest trading partner. Venezuela is the fourth-largest exporter of oil to the United States.

Despite that tight economic relationship, the two countries are far from close: Chavez often rails against the United States and its allies as "imperialists" and has supported controversial world leaders such as President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran.

The election result Sunday means the U.S. government will have to continue to deal with Chavez's provocatively independent brand of diplomacy.
Source

An additional note with the talk of how the CIA approves everyone in South and Central America.... Umm... The CIA spent most of the 1980's FIGHTING a good part of Central and South America. Approval of leaders would have been Reagan or Bush's wet dream. It wasn't how it worked then and with people like Daniel Ortega and Morales running major nations down there now? It hasn't improved much since.

The CIA WISHES it were half as powerful as some people give them credit for.


reply posted on 27-2-2013 @ 09:06 PM by Agit8dChop
reply to post by Daedalus



That's what I thought, '' oh no, not again.. ''

but CNN isn't one to put up hoaxes like this.


reply posted on 27-2-2013 @ 09:16 PM by Daedalus
Originally posted by Agit8dChop
reply to
post by Daedalus



That's what I thought, '' oh no, not again.. ''

but CNN isn't one to put up hoaxes like this.



i dunno man.....aren't they like an affiliate? and it's not as if a mainstream media outlet has never before put out political propaganda...

-shrug- wait and see, i guess?


reply posted on 27-2-2013 @ 09:21 PM by lynxpilot
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
reply to
post by VaterOrlaag


I tend to hate those who hate me on general principle if nothing else. He had little but hateful and vile things to say about we folks in the North unless he was nationalizing (read STEALING Oil company sites and equipment to make his own and personal profit machines).

It's not about listening to the media anyway... If you've kept up on Venezuelan news from Caracas news sources, he's been far from the most favored leader, to be very kind about it. The people some suggest loved him, sure had a funny way of showing it in the streets as often as they did. It wasn't love in the air, to be sure.

For those who say he was elected as if it had any comparison to the Untied States whatsoever in election procedures...again, check LOCAL Venezuelan news on that matter. Elected is a relative term in some nations. Saddam Hussein, for instance, was elected too. 99% of the vote, sure as anything. Corruption is downright institutional in some places, in ways the U.S. has never seen. Venezuela is one of those places, IMO.

In the end though, the guy was just a socialist jerk. I do NOT like Socialists in any form and I never have. Not HIS brand of it, anyway.

Chavez's influence over Latin America's left-leaning governments has often rankled the United States, Venezuela's largest trading partner. Venezuela is the fourth-largest exporter of oil to the United States.

Despite that tight economic relationship, the two countries are far from close: Chavez often rails against the United States and its allies as "imperialists" and has supported controversial world leaders such as President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran.

The election result Sunday means the U.S. government will have to continue to deal with Chavez's provocatively independent brand of diplomacy.
Source

An additional note with the talk of how the CIA approves everyone in South and Central America.... Umm... The CIA spent most of the 1980's FIGHTING a good part of Central and South America. Approval of leaders would have been Reagan or Bush's wet dream. It wasn't how it worked then and with people like Daniel Ortega and Morales running major nations down there now? It hasn't improved much since.

The CIA WISHES it were half as powerful as some people give them credit for.


A forum like this is hardly the place to detail every nuance of what the CIA has done in the western hemisphere and what influence they have and have had in the past, so I'll suffice to say that you need to do some more research. The hand of the CIA has been in almost every country in this hemisphere, and any time one of those countries has stepped out of bounds (shown that they might be able to be self-sufficient and indepdent), the CIA has stirred the pot or started a war to keep those countries in a continuous state of poverty and turmoil. There's plenty of resources throughout the Caribbean, SA, and CA, and not a single country has been able to capitalize on it. There's a reason for that, and that's where I would suggest you start looking. There's also plenty of information resources, and I dare say if you explored them, you might not be so brash about your judgement of how wimpy the CIA is.


reply posted on 27-2-2013 @ 09:28 PM by SLAYER69
reply to post by rigel4



I assumed he was, if he isn't then this thread should be put in the Hoax bin?


reply posted on 27-2-2013 @ 09:28 PM by boymonkey74
reply to post by Wrabbit2000



He was elected fair and square, each election has been monitored and no wrong doings have been found can you say the same about the USA elections?



reply posted on 27-2-2013 @ 09:31 PM by SloAnPainful
reply to post by SLAYER69



Yes but it hasn't been confirmed yet.

But I would guess it is true. As another member stated CNN doesn't normally make article's that are hoaxes. However on the CNN.com there is nothing, but on the Chile site there is.

Too early to tell I guess.

-SAP-


reply posted on 27-2-2013 @ 09:34 PM by Danbones
Originally posted by Deny777
To the people who think he's a great leader: please explain to me how a president that shuts down radio and TV stations when they broadcast news that go against his government is a great leader. He's not very fond of criticism it seems, and has zero respect for freedom of speech. Also from what I read about him he's a shameless populist disguised as a nationalist, that's why the Venezuelan people "love" him. The quotes are because there's suspicion that polls and elections results are fabricated.

So unless all his public pronouncements and news about his actions are false and/or poorly translated, the very least I can say about him is that he's as evil as it gets.


miss your cartoones?
did you hear how the US dicktator(s) pays to put false news on the CIA controlled TV stations in the US and in the media abroad?

here is just one example of a plethora

The same day that the Bush administration, backed by congressional Democrats, was outlining its “strategy for victory” in Iraq, news broke that the US military has been secretly paying Iraqi newspapers to publish pro-American propaganda stories.

The Los Angeles Times reported on Wednesday that the articles, written by US troops under the direction of the military’s “Information Operations Task Force,” are translated into Arabic and planted in Baghdad newspapers with the assistance of the Washington-based Lincoln Group and its subcontractor BKSH & Associates.

The Lincoln Group was awarded a $5 million contract for the project in 2004 after a Pentagon advisory committee cited a “fundamental problem of credibility” in winning over Muslim public opinion

www.wsws.org...

evil is as evil does

PS
evil dicktatorial invasion of foreign country for no honest reason not withstanding
edit on 27-2-2013 by Danbones because: (no reason given)



reply posted on 27-2-2013 @ 09:37 PM by LordAdef
Originally posted by boymonkey74
reply to
post by Wrabbit2000



He was elected fair and square, each election has been monitored and no wrong doings have been found can you say the same about the USA elections?


Are you joking?
Do you mean a fair election meaning counting the votes properly?
A fair election is when you let the rightful opposition expose its intentions in the same way you do.
A fair election happens when there is two or more parts in the game.
Chaves destroyed any opposition and controlled the regional sections with his men. Closed any media that was against him. The tvs are controlled soly by him (the gov) and he brain washes the country through it.

He didn't need to cheat the election, everything was done prior to that.
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