BREAKING: Hugo Chavez Is Dead

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posted on Feb, 27 2013 @ 08:31 PM
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Originally posted by SloAnPainful

Originally posted by lucidclouds
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How does elected leader equal dictator?


I wasn't aware he was elected. I retract the fact he's a "dictator".

Sorry I stand corrected.

-SAP-


Many dictators have been "elected"... Saddam Hussein was "elected" and "re-elected" many times...

Mr. Obama/Sotero has been elected and re-elected... and he sure seems to want dictatorial power...




posted on Feb, 27 2013 @ 08:33 PM
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Originally posted by DrMattMaddix

Originally posted by lucidclouds
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How does elected leader equal dictator?


Ummmmm Where were you when he tried to change their Constitution to make him President for LIFE!!!
LOL @ Awake People... Oh wait, you *think* that you are... LOL



President Hugo Chavez was presenting his blueprint Wednesday for sweeping constitutional changes expected to allow him to be re-elected indefinitely.


www.foxnews.com...

re-elected




posted on Feb, 27 2013 @ 08:33 PM
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Lolol this isn't tru he isn't dead. I seem this months ago n I even asked my Hispanic mother and she said its a fake story back in 1997 or some crap.

Fake he's not dead



posted on Feb, 27 2013 @ 08:35 PM
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Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
I don't usually feel good when another person dies....

I'll make an exception just this once. I think I'll buy myself some take out on the way home as a little treat for the occasion.

(Yeah...I really disliked him and what he did to Venezuela THAT much) Lets hope his replacement isn't worse.


His citizens loved him. He stood up to the USA's imperialistic reach. He made socialism work in his country.

Sure, he was evil if you believe all that "Commies must die" propaganda.
The fact is he did so much for his citizens. He's one of the better examples of how socialists aren't evil.

Or you can just keep believing the propaganda....



posted on Feb, 27 2013 @ 08:36 PM
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I hope this is not true. He is the first person that shed light on how socialism can benefit society. His only problem is running out of other peoples money to support that. I'm certain he was going to do that. Capitalism sure isn't working for us anymore. We are all now subjects and slaves and there are starving people everywhere. At least they only starved a little bit in his country.



posted on Feb, 27 2013 @ 08:39 PM
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Hussein kept getting put back into power as planned.

You don't actually believe that civilian votes count in an election and actually determines who gets elected into power, do you ?

The "democratic" process is a fantasy of smoke and mirrors to keep us plebeians at bay.



posted on Feb, 27 2013 @ 08:42 PM
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Don't Believe the Report About Hugo Chávez's Death Just Yet


www.theatlanticwire.com...

But Guillermo Cochez is also arguably a conspiracy theorist. Earlier on Wednesday, Cochez — and only Chochez — reported that Chávez had been brain dead since December 30. Cochez said that Chávez was being kept on life support and later, citing sources within the Venezuelan government, added that his daughters had finally decided to pull the plug. Assuming the best for President Chávez's health, it sort of sounds like Cochez is just trolling the Venezuelans. "I challenge the Venezuelan government to prove me wrong, and to present President Chávez so that it's known whether what I say is the truth or a lie," Cochez told CNN Chile. (Forgive the choppy Spanish translation; it's been a while since college.) So do we believe the guy who's daring the Venezuelan government to prove him wrong?


While this would indeed be huge news....I think we should wait until we have more sources.....until then, we can wonder what is next for his country...and how it will affect the rest of the Region



posted on Feb, 27 2013 @ 08:43 PM
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Yeah saying he was "elected" doesn't prove anything. Kim Jong Un was technically elected too (of course voting only occurred within the gov't party). He won with 100% of the vote. Hitler was voted in as well.

That being said, voting can rigged.

-SAP-



posted on Feb, 27 2013 @ 08:44 PM
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I do recall that they determined the vote fraud convictions in Ohio prooved bush was installed...
17 cant a gallon gas.. at least we know its a different cabal then the the one controlling the elections in the NATO countries


PS

Hey SAP: I give up you win

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posted on Feb, 27 2013 @ 08:45 PM
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A sad day for democracy anyway.

Wonder if the next Venezuelan president will import cheap, subsidized gas for Americas poor. We can only hope.



posted on Feb, 27 2013 @ 08:50 PM
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I never said Chavez was a dictator, I was just implying just because the people vote someone into power does not mean they can't be a dictator as you suggested.



posted on Feb, 27 2013 @ 08:51 PM
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Originally posted by SloAnPainful
Yeah saying he was "elected" doesn't prove anything. Kim Jong Un was technically elected too (of course voting only occurred within the gov't party). He won with 100% of the vote. Hitler was voted in as well.

That being said, voting can rigged.

-SAP-


Well according to OAS and the Carter center the election was certified as being free and legitimate, so can we stop this stuff about him being a dictator please.
You may not like him for his political views but at least lets stick to the facts.

Just read a good article about him here.

www.independent.co.uk... l
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posted on Feb, 27 2013 @ 08:54 PM
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I agree we should stop. I didn't think saying "dictator" would bring such focus on that one word and that one area.

However his political career should be looked at. Take that for what it is. Not hating just stating.

-SAP-
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posted on Feb, 27 2013 @ 08:55 PM
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Darn you.. You beat me to posting that link D........

I was just reading that, it's almost surreal, goes along with the whole, "I saw it online so.." theory..



posted on Feb, 27 2013 @ 08:59 PM
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Originally posted by lynxpilot
You think he's what your press has painted him to be. What he really is might be a little bit different. Every south or central american leader in the last 50 years has been vetted by the CIA and if they didn't pass muster, they've been ousted. Chavez was one of the only ones besides Castro who managed to evade the CIA coup d'etat when it seemed like he wasn't going to cooperate with lining the pockets of overseas bankers and oil barons. He probably did more for Venzuelans than any south or central american leader has done for their people in history.
edit on 27-2-2013 by lynxpilot because: ga ga ga grammar


Yep. The man tried to give a damn. Hard to do in a world of slavery where even the slaves demand the status quo. I for one salute you Mr. Chavez. A hard thing to do when everyone swims in evil willingly and to tell a truth will get you accused.



posted on Feb, 27 2013 @ 09:02 PM
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You're right.

Sorry about that. When I said "how does elected leader equal dictator?" I was talking about Chavez.
edit on 27-2-2013 by lucidclouds because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 27 2013 @ 09:02 PM
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This is written in bold on that same article:

"CNN Chile checked with Venezuela's Ministry of Foreign Affairs, who said this story is not true and is the contrary to the President's current medical treatment"



posted on Feb, 27 2013 @ 09:02 PM
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Iam reading a lot about him at the moment and he really does appear like a breath of fresh air.
I think he has annoyed all the elites in the world and they have tried to tarnish him (looks like the elites have brainwashed many here) so please tell me what he has done wrong?

Another good article here

venezuelanalysis.com...

Hope the dude isn't dead If he is RIP.



posted on Feb, 27 2013 @ 09:04 PM
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To the people who think he's a great leader: please explain to me how a president that shuts down radio and TV stations when they broadcast news that go against his government is a great leader. He's not very fond of criticism it seems, and has zero respect for freedom of speech. Also from what I read about him he's a shameless populist disguised as a nationalist, that's why the Venezuelan people "love" him. The quotes are because there's suspicion that polls and elections results are fabricated.

So unless all his public pronouncements and news about his actions are false and/or poorly translated, the very least I can say about him is that he's as evil as it gets.



posted on Feb, 27 2013 @ 09:04 PM
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