The "some people" is everyone not in your brainwashing cult.
I know some believe believe like you do that the Jews had their chance and now these prophecies aren't going to come to fruition for them, but I disagree.
You need to get out of this dead-end concept that Jesus is the one and only God.
And once this eternal God is gone . . .
Originally posted by windword
reply to post by VonDinkinDunken
Thanks for taking to time to answer my post. Please allow me to respond, not against your beliefs, but on behalf of my own.
Jesus was the Son of God or God made flesh.
As are we all.
The reason he was tempted was so that he could endure the same temptations common to mankind and resist thus fulfilling the rigid requirements of the Law. If He was tempted in all areas of the law and overcame every temptation, then he triumphed over the power of the Law to condemn, and over the power of Sin.
While I do believe that the character of Jesus was modeled after a real person, "The Teacher of Righteousness," I don't believe in the Biblical story of the virgin birth, resurrection, human sacrifice or the "special" divinity of Jesus.
The temptation of Jesus is our temptation. We are spiritual beings having a physical experience. In the story, Satan did indeed have ownership of the physical realm he offered to Jesus. Jesus exercised his free will, and choose to feed his spiritual needs, over his physical needs, ie: fasting for 40 days, and eating the "bread" that the angels created out of the rocks.
Similarly, the Buddha also gave up the illusions of the physical realm in favor of the spiritual. When confronted by the god Mara, Mara demanded Buddha to declare who would testify on his behalf, and he named the spirit of the Earth, herself. Likewise, Jesus said that if the masses didn't declare him, the rocks would sing his glory.
And, thus began their ministries.
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Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by arpgme
A true sacrifice would be him dying for real (his "eternity")...
Jesus "gave away" being god.
Jesus is forever a man.
He is a 'glorified' person but so will we be when we are resurrected.
It means that Jesus is now god.
The old "god of this world" has fallen, and been replaced, with the practical application being that we no longer are obligated to worship or serve that god.
Dewey, does you interpretation of who Jesus is change based on how you feel each day when you wake up?
Can you possibly contradict yourself any more?
I thought those were rhetorical questions leading up to the punch-line of you ignoring all my future posts.
So, instead of answering the question, you just decide to criticize me.
I don't post here for the purpose of being superior.
How does that make you look intelligent?
It's not a product of my 'superior intelligence' but understanding normal Christianity.
How did you get from "Jesus is now a god" to "Jesus gave away being god"?
What I mean is that it doesn't say in Philippians 2 that Jesus was restored to the form of god.
That is not something peculiar to just that section.
. . . there is no more mention of the name Jesus . . .
Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
"Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me."
These are the words that Jesus spoke when he appeared to the 11 disciples after his resurrection.
Being given authority over the earth, is obviously a big deal. So if the Bible tells us Jesus was given authority over heaven and earth, then its as good as saying Jesus started ruling the world.
New International Version (NIV)
20 “My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, 21 that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. 22 I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one— 23 I in them and you in me—so that they may be brought to complete unity. Then the world will know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me.
24 “Father, I want those you have given me to be with me where I am, and to see my glory, the glory you have given me because you loved me before the creation of the world.
25 “Righteous Father, though the world does not know you, I know you, and they know that you have sent me. 26 I have made you[a] known to them, and will continue to make you known in order that the love you have for me may be in them and that I myself may be in them.”
30 Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’[a]
31 The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no commandment greater than these.”