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Originally posted by Z32Driver
Hes tested rainwater numerous times, hes an expert in renewable energy, hes with the website geoengeneeringwatch (international research), hes been researching this for about ten years. Good enough?
He "mentions" a lot of crap.
Don't you recall (from the video) how he mentions that aluminum does not exist freely in our atmosphere?
What do you think airborne dust is if not soil?
Its in our soil and crust but always bonded.
Yes. And so do you because the wind picks it up from the ground.
Do you have free floating aluminum particles in your area?
Originally posted by network dude
Originally posted by Z32Driver
What do you think those planes full of interconnected tanks are used for?
Ballast testing. It helps distribute the weigh around in flight to simulate passengers and cargo. But I am sure you knew that. You could look that up independently if you like.
I am done with this. If you folks want to believe in fairys and boogymen so damn bad, great. They are out to get you. You are all gonna die!
Originally posted by yoursteppingonmytoes
Tell me the circumstances behind Operation Popeye which occurred in Vietnam.
Originally posted by network dude
Originally posted by NONPOINT21
Originally posted by network dude
Originally posted by jcarpenter
A few years back, I was outside and heard an aircraft at a few thousand feet. As I was watching, the pilot cycled his sprayer on/off several times. A thick, opaque chemical trail almost looking like Morris Code appeared.
So please explain to me, it is possible for a contrail to last for more than 10 minutes in the sky or not?
no contrail is going to last all day and disperse in all directions to form what others would call a whispy cloud formation. I've seen a plane go over and disperse a chemtrail then 20 mins later another plane go by which had a contrail that evaporates within seconds. So as when looking at the plane there is a 4 inch tail (in sky) of smoke behind it at all times. Totally different than lingering for hours then spreading out over the entire area of sight not to mention the x and # patterns they are using.
www.questia.com...
The second German sighting occurred on May 9, 1919, when a pilot flying over Berlin at about 26,000 feet noticed the generation of a cloud stream that extended for about forty miles behind his plane. This stream eventually spread out to form a cloud layer that was about 3,000 feet thick. The pilot saw a similar phenomenon two days later.
The spreading out of jet contrails into extensive cirrus sheets is a familiar sight. Often, when persistent conditions exist from 25,000 to 40,000ft, several long contrails increase in number and gradually merge into an almost solid interlaced sheet.
Originally posted by Sk8ergrl
Originally posted by stars15k
reply to post by Z32Driver
Kind of a stupid secret considering they go from horizon to horizon, multiple times all over the world every single day.
That's kind of like hiding an elephant with a postage stamp.
If you to th look for "contrail studies - chemtrails" you will find all kinds of experts who worry about what a contrail might doe weather, too. It's why they are studied.
No, I don't think they guy is credible. He believes in "chemtrails".
Its not meant to be a secret and they know that we can't do anything to stop them so that's why they have come out that they have been spraying the skies for years. Why hide something if your above the law?
Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
Originally posted by yoursteppingonmytoes
Tell me the circumstances behind Operation Popeye which occurred in Vietnam.
It was cloud seeding - which is nto actually secret - although the military application of it was as aer many/most military operations for good reason.
What's more teh chemicals used did not look like contrails - as every picture of a "chemtrail" I've seen does.
And thirdly, since then the use of weather modification for military purposes has been outlawed by international convention - the US signed it in 1977, and ratified it in 1980
so if you ahve any actual evidence that this is being done now (as opposed to 40 years ago) you should make it available to all and sundry so that criminal posecutions can be started - either domestically or internationally.
Lots of things have been done in the past that are not done now (or at least not done as widely or in the US or wherever) - chattel slavery, child labour, lashing sailors, etc - the fact that "bad things" ahve been done in eth past may be reasonable grounds to be suspicious now - but it is not any sort of evidence that "whatever" is beign done now.
the total lack of actual evidence for chemtrails is damning - in 15 or so years since the hoax started not one person has ever found any credible evidene they exist - no-one has ever actually smapled a chemtrail for example - instead we get samples of dirt and rain water as if everything in them can only ahve come from "chemtrails" and totally ignoring normal reality. There are no aircraft modifications, documentation or equipment - no materials have ever been found, no evidene of anythign being transported, no fuel samples showing unaccountable additives. NOT ONE PIECE OF CREDIBLE EVIDENCE ......EVER.
We are told "contrails only last a few seconds so anything lasting longer must be a chemtrail" which is arrant nonsense and totaly ignorses both science and common sense (if clouds can last days why can't contrails, since both are just water crystals??!!) - it is either an outright lie or evidence of ignorance.
Sorry about that.
Originally posted by yoursteppingonmytoes
I'm sorry you wasted the time writing all of that up. I simply do not agree with you. Respectfully.
Sorry about that
Specifically pure aluminum, as opposed to bonded to other elements.
The goal here is not to evaluate cloud seeding science and technology per se, but to
assess the social response, decision-making, and ot (sic) her implications for geo-engineering
governance.
A small and dated, but still useful, body of analysis exists on social response to conventional weather and climate modification schemes, coming especially from sociologists, policy scientists, and geographers (e.g., Steinberg, 2000; Farhar, 1977; Farhar and Mewes, 1975; Sewell, 1966). Fleming’s (2007) dismissive
Wilson Quarterly piece casts past weather and climate modifiers as arrogant “Titans“ with no regard for social or environmental consequences.
Discussing a 1965 proposal to increase the Earth’s albedo with bright particles spread across the
tropical oceans (among the first serious global warming geo-engineering schemes), Fleming
claims that “No one thought to consider the side effects of particles washing up on tropical
beaches or choking marine life, or the negative consequences of redirecting hurricanes, much
less other effects beyond our imagination. And no one thought to ask if the local inhabitants
would be in favor of such schemes.” (p. 58).
Originally posted by network dude
Originally posted by TrueAmerican
reply to post by network dude
Your lack of commenting on any specifics of the video itself make me suspicious that you did not even watch it. I don't like that. Not one bit. Do you not understand that I have NEVER believed in chemtrails, and always understood them to be contrails? And hence the title of the thread. Now lose the condescending attitude please, and go watch the video, and hear the guy out. Is why I posted it, so people could listen and make up their own minds. You're not going to make mine up for me. I just have doubts- especially after what all this guy is talking about. Too far gone...puhleeeease. Just...no.
Do you seriously want me to pick apart that video bit by bit? I did watch it. I heard the guy sound passionate. He is massively confused about the causation of his methane issues.
Firstly, contrails can and do exist. They do affect weather patterns and that has been known since just after they started to form. The weather is changing. I personally don't buy into man made global warming, but in the end, my opinion means exactly jack spit. So whomever is at fault the weather is changing. And it will continue to change. So the polar ice caps might melt, the ocean currents might change and guess what, there isn't s damn thing you nor I can do about it. Now onto your video. The chemtrail BS that is shown at the beginning is all lies. They have been discussed and debunked here and elsewhere time and again. To use those in a truthful video is dishonest at best. Chemtrails, if they exist, would most likely be invisible. Look that up if you wish.
The fact that you started a thread on this, then disappeared to let all the back slappers and idiots who post patents as if they are proof of any damn thing is what I was most disappointed in. I thought you have a tiny but more integrity. I was wrong. An attention whore is not becoming.
Science proves that contrail can and do persist. Knowing that, every picture showing a line in the sky, has much more of a possibility of being a contrail than it does being a chemtrail. Feel free to look that up too.
Enjoy your new fame, at the cost of any shred of dignity you might have had.