reply to post by stars15k
Originally posted by stars15k
reply to post by bluestorm
Okay, let me fill you in on some actual facts about clouds I LEARNED about because I didn't know.
An average cumulus cloud, the white puffy ones you see on a nice summer day, weighs 550 tons.
To make that cloud would require 50 tanker planes to spray. Each.
So unless you see fleets of planes overheads, there is no such thing as a fake cloud.
It is physically impossible. If you understood about the atmosphere and how it works, you would know that fake clouds and "chemtrails" are both
impossible. Illogical, too.
This is all well and good. But what about using nature itself to excite certain conditions...
Tell me the circumstances behind Operation Popeye which occurred in Vietnam.
I'll give you a rundown...
During the Vietnam war, the Americans launched Project Popeye, a secret mission to seed the tops of monsoon clouds and trigger phenomenal
downpours that would wash away the Ho Chi Minh Trail used for ferrying supplies. For five years Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos were sprayed during the
monsoons, and military intelligence claimed that rainfall was increased by a third in some places.
It only came to an end in March 1971 when [Washington Post] journalist Jack Anderson exposed the project and caused such a public furor that the UN
general assembly approved a universal treaty banning environmental warfare.
And whilst we're talking about spraying chemicals and Vietnam, how about Agent Orange. Chemical spraying has been used in theaters of war. Agent
Orange, White phosphorous.
The simple fact, yes I said fact.. is that weather manipulation has been attempted and factual, yes I said factual.. events have occurred in history
like Operation Popeye which have alluded to the possibilities of manipulating the weather. In this case though in times of war.
Past experiences tell us to be wary of tampering with the weather. In 1947, meteorologists tried to kill off a dying hurricane out at sea by
seeding the clouds. The following day, the hurricane suddenly gathered strength, swung round and hit Savannah, Georgia causing extensive damage. The
weather boffins were so rattled by the disaster it was not until August 1969 that they dared try again. When Hurricane Debbie was 700 miles out at
sea, they flew three seeding missions around its eye, where tropical storms are at their most intense, but the results were mixed - with each seeding
the hurricane's winds were reduced and each time they picked up again.
Understand this, like anything the technology could be used for good or for bad.
Now I agree, that seeding entire clouds would be difficult but not impossible, nothing is. Compound and delivery adjustments could be made to make
things more efficient depending on the desired outcome.
Controlling monsoonal weather and hurricanes, imagine how beneficial something like that could be if the science was down pat and they had it sorted.
Are what people see most of the time chem trails? No, but as I said referring to UFO's in another chem trail thread.. Some may be real some may be
fake. Use your knowledge on cloud formations and jet fuels and other aviation knowledge. Perfect, I agree with these methods but you can't discount
historical recollections of factual events when some facts you have obtained don't necessarily agree with each other or point to a need to do further
investigation or follow up. This is what I do. Not perfect but its what I do.
If somebody provides me tangible evidence that every single sighting is not real and why the UN created a treaty after Operation Popeye instead of the
reasons stated to prevent weather modification in war then I will eat my words of saying its possible. How is saying this is possible when its been
done before so beyond belief?
Weather modification shall continue with or without our approval or beliefs. The true question is what is this technology being used for. As with most
Governmental issues, more civilian and/or judicial oversight and involvement is needed.
edit on 27-2-2013 by yoursteppingonmytoes because: (no reason given)