reply to post by danielsil18
I see the problem a little differently - The problem is that the government is involved at all in providing assistance to either those wanting
contraception or needed aid to support the children created from the lack of it.
My ideal situation would be the government at any level would not be involved either way in regulating procreation or the mitigation of the poor
choices of people regarding procreation. There is a societal role in this via charity; however, not government charity or taxpayer funded "safety
The government has assumed the role of the indulgent parent who enables the poor decision making of their children by mitigating the resultant
negative consequences. However, the state has neglected to take the equally important role of limit setting and restrictive parent who places
conditions on such aid to ensure that this cycle of poor decision making does not continue. We throw out aid like it is infinitely available. I guess
when you print money it is...
I mean here is a dude who should be sterilized...and charged with a crime, perhaps for deadly use of a penis in the ruining of 30 children’s
.... Assault on a child’s potential.
A man who can't manage to maintain a job that pays more than minimum wage has "fathered" (I use the term "father" in strict biological terms
only) 30 children who in all likelihood will grow up to be just like him - uneducated and dependant. Why? Because the government has probably gladly
been forking over checks to support each one of these women who have on average 2.72 children from a father who can't even support himself.
However, infringing on his right to procreate is sacrosanct…no one dare take it away from him. O'really?
We have too many unwanted babies in the US - that is just a fact. In addition to the unwanted babies we way too many children who for the most part
should never have been and live in home situations with people who are too apathetic, lazy or stupid to properly raise them. It is unfortunate that
those who should have children the least have the most... These children ultimately will be a drain on the nation’s taxpayers who work hard to
support their own offspring.
Then comes the classic argument - "it's for the children" people scream, "they are innocent"...
It is a tired argument.
It is a sad situation for the kids but when did paying for the lifetime mistakes of others become a taxpayer problem. I chose to have one child
despite the financial ability to support many. I made good decisions, I saved and invested and worked hard. All for what - so others can reproduce at
will and without any consequences and send me the bill? This is stupid, criminal and unsustainable.
To take the fruits of one person’s labor by force for the purpose of giving it to another is theft. This is without regard to the relative perceived
need of the recipient (or their children) or the perceived wealth of the person from whom the assets are being seized, plain and simple. It is theft
regardless if it be at the point of a gun or force of law.
The only way people will ever be properly motivated to change their behavior is to have to suffer a consequence from the action. Action - reaction....
Do people in 2012 really not know where babies come from?
The problem is that our society has made repetitive poor decision making too comfortable for too large segment of the population while penalizing
the remainder (shrinking every day) who make good choices. All, for the sake of the children…
Compassion is good, charity is nice but to do it to the point we are not only sustaining and indefinitely supporting the weak, stupid and the lazy we
are doing so without imposing any sort of restrictions. Why should people on welfare/public support be able to reproduce and not only that be rewarded
for it with more money at the expense of the others? I’m all for welfare for a teen Mom for a while – but when she has the second kid, my
compassion begins to wane, more for each one after that…till finally even if children suffer I lose interest.
Supporting the weak and lazy at the expense of the driven and strong is antithetical to nature and why we are in the current predicament. Our
compassion is bankrupting us.
I know it sounds callous but perhaps if a parent had to watch a child suffer for their poor choices it might be enough of a deterrent to change their
behavior. Making people comfortable by mitigating the outcome of their poor decisions only encourages them to repeat them over and over.
So while it may seem perhaps Nazi-esque or some Orwellian nightmare state program how long must we (Joe Citizen) suffer the burden of paying for these
children and others like them?