Amazing New Technology Will Make Batteries Obsolete

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Video is down

Haha wrong site!

boogey man removed video.
it seems this technology has no potentional

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I already posted links to the vid on vimeo.
look back a page or two.

I see Disinfo agents out in full force in this threat to defend the Petrodollar system...

Some idiot said what do batteries have to do with oil companies.... How clueless :/

Petrodollar...

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If this graphene can be made into a material and hold a charge you could end up with powered clothes which could well take the fashion industry by storm. You could power your laptop by plugging it into your shorts.

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Originally posted by ChaoticOrder

Originally posted by Chippa
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It's not a big deal!!!

This was being done at UCLA and reported on March of last year!!!
SEE This. www.zdnet.com...

Of course it's a big deal. That article is probably when they were first making these breakthroughs. We've now had enough time for them to start mass manufacturing these types of batteries... and I'm still worried we wont see that day any time soon.

This doesn't really effect oil companies too much, since a lot of electricity is generated with oil anyway...

Actually not, virtually no petroleum is used for generating electricity in large scale, only remote areas without infrastructure.

For the energy, petroleum is much more expensive than gas or coal, because it is more flexible & transportable.

Gas and solids are less flexible, harder to transport, and thus cheaper per energy. Generating plants take gas and coal.

And I would not underestimate the power of battery companies when they are put in a situation like this. They control a huge sector of the energy industry because batteries are used in so many different places. Unless these battery companies could start making their own graphene batteries they are in trouble.

Some could and would. There is a huge jump from an academic lab discovery to production products: you have to know how to manufacture, quality control, battery management hardware & software systems, benchmarking and sales.

This is actually good for battery makers: basic science comes up with a new technology which improves the range of applications for batteries compared to combusting fossil fuels. Within the industry some may win and some may lose, but overall it's a plus.

Originally posted by grey580
Another article.

physicsworld.com...

Researchers in the US have made a graphene-based supercapacitor that can store as much energy per unit mass as nickel metal hydride batteries – but unlike batteries, it can be charged or discharged in just minutes or even seconds. The new device has a specific energy density of 85.6 Wh/kg at room temperature and 136 Wh/kg at 80 °C. These are the highest ever values for "electric double layer" supercapacitors based on carbon nanomaterials.

What exactly does that energy density mean in english?

It means that it's got about the same energy storage, on a per kg basis, as a lower end lithium ion battery. Li-ion has a storage density of around 100-265 Wh/kg. 85.6 Wh/kg is massive for a cap, even if it isn't quite as good as you can get from an electrochemical cell. It's at least comparable, though.

this has to be the reason HP stoped making the lightscribe drives.

REASON FOR CHANGE
Due to industry-wide deficit of certain optical disc drive components, HP has decided to transition certain HP systems to drives without HP LightScribe technology in order to help ensure product availability for our valued customers.

H P LightScribe

They are drying up the market because you might print a supercap

Originally posted by Bedlam

Originally posted by grey580
Another article.

physicsworld.com...

Researchers in the US have made a graphene-based supercapacitor that can store as much energy per unit mass as nickel metal hydride batteries – but unlike batteries, it can be charged or discharged in just minutes or even seconds. The new device has a specific energy density of 85.6 Wh/kg at room temperature and 136 Wh/kg at 80 °C. These are the highest ever values for "electric double layer" supercapacitors based on carbon nanomaterials.

What exactly does that energy density mean in english?

It means that it's got about the same energy storage, on a per kg basis, as a lower end lithium ion battery. Li-ion has a storage density of around 100-265 Wh/kg. 85.6 Wh/kg is massive for a cap, even if it isn't quite as good as you can get from an electrochemical cell. It's at least comparable, though.

Now to really drive the point home we need to look at storage density per $. Li-ion is an expensive and difficult tech, Graphene on the other hand is cheap and easy to manufacture. Remember this is only graphene 1.0. The major cost of the electric car is two fold, $ cost of batteries and recharging time. Well graphene addresses both of these issues. Big oil will not like this one little bit. They will fight back!

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How they compare for Wh/l is something to look at, graphene is light so the cap might be quite a bit larger than the battery. Not sure what the numbers are, at work, no time.

Originally posted by Bedlam
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How they compare for Wh/l is something to look at, graphene is light so the cap might be quite a bit larger than the battery. Not sure what the numbers are, at work, no time.

Good point. I wonder if they could make the car body out of it, as in your car is the battery!

I really do not think we will see this in the real world, the oil moguls will see to that.

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Originally posted by pheonix358
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If this graphene can be made into a material and hold a charge you could end up with powered clothes which could well take the fashion industry by storm. You could power your laptop by plugging it into your shorts.

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Now that would be a supper awesome peace of equipment

Going for a night jog or cycle with material of that caliber will light a man up like a Christmas tree. Just imagine a shirt with thousands of mini led lights that can light up in any form of pattern that can be reprogrammed into a on board chip. You could advertise your business whilst keeping fit and feel more at ease from distracted drivers

Damn I love innovation Good things

it will be years before its released to the public

"Amazing New Technology Will Make Batteries Obsolete"

This is amazing news for all the lonely women across the earth

I just want someone to make a power source that will take down the MONOPOLIES of the electric and oil companies.

But it will never happen.

Those that try either get "taken out" or just bought out.

You know, capitalism....

thanks for posting this! very interesting, it seems like technological advancements have been stunted for some time now..hopefully this is a sign things are pickin up again!