posted on Feb, 25 2013 @ 04:59 PM
Originally posted by ajay59
reply to post by solomons path
...While true, is weakened by the fact it no longer has the effect it once had in light of the changes of the recent increase in awareness. Another
point I must disagree with is...
This will end dissent . . . just like Communist Russia, NAZI Germany, Turkey/Albanians, Rwanda, Serb/Croatia, Iraq . . . etc, etc.
...the difference which is obvious to me, WE are not them. Americans have been bathed in an entirely different idealism and way of thinking that for
many decades brought others here to have not only a better life, but a better way of embracing life.
I agree that more people are aware of the tactics used by those in authority; however I guess we just have a different level of faith in the choices
that people will make when faced with option of compliance or dissent. That's a "life on the line" situation and the natural instict is for
self-preservation. Throw in those that also have to think of their families (especially children) and most of the time, their mind is made up before
the question is even asked.
With regard to nationality . . . I think your exclusion of Americans from basic human behavior/psychology is a very dangerous assumption. As humans,
we have a natural predilection to "do as were told". Part of the reason for this is we are a communal species and put faith that those in authority
(in the end) will have our best interests at heart. The only thing that "snaps" them from their "coma" is to be faced with harsh examples of
authority causing harm. By then however, it is far too late. That is why revolution/uprisings usually happen after tyranny has taken hold.
I'm reminded the stories my great and grandparents told me of times in Central Europe following WWI and continuing through WWII. Every story included
the words: "We never thought they could do that to their own people" or "We never thought it could happen in this country". As a species . . . we
want to believe our own countrymen are on our side, even when the evidence is there to support otherwise. Think of the quote that talks about "First
they came for the communists . . . ". People will go along, as long as the gov isn't going after their perceived group. Again, you can look at the
example of America following 9/11. Most knew Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, however many willingly went along/supported destroying that nation.
They were still contentious towards us, Arab, and if the gov says they have WMDs . . . well. We saw the nationalistic ferver. It's the same thing.
To this day, there are many that think we should still be "hunting down terrorists" despite the fact that hindsight shows 98% of it was manufactured
I will openly admit . . . I prefer your scenario to mine. But, the very fact that so many think "it cannot happen here" or "when it comes down to it,
the military will back the people" tells me we are no different than those that came before us. If my great-grandma hadn't shown me the relics of her
time spent in Auschwitz or witnessed this nation after 9/11 or heard the devisive rhetoric after Sandy Hook . . . I probably wouldn't have the strong
stance I have today. I have no doubt that I would share your optimism in my fellow Americans.
I guess the only thing we can do is educate as many as possible, so those atrocities of the past never happen again . . . and hope those conditons
never presents itself, in the first place.
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