reply to post by semperfortis
Read my thread on the 2 creation stories. The first creation is paradise. The second is the material world. We are here as children to learn. When
we are finished, grown and matured, we rise to new life in paradise. We must find the key. They key is love for others. When we place ourselves in
Christ (Character of love for others), we are transposed from water to spirit. Genesis 1 is Elohim. Genesis 2 is Lord. The Lord is Adam.
Two Creation Stories in Genesis
15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth,
visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. 17 He is before all
things, and in him all things hold together. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead,
so that in everything he might have the supremacy. 19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, 20 and through him to reconcile to
himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.
The story of Christ and the Cross were symbols for us to look back and forward. When we look back, we see the Father Adam fall. When we look
forward, we see the Son Adam become a living giving Spirit. Adam is the Redeemer. Christ is the Son of God. Both are true.
1 Corinthians 10
16 Is not the cup of thanksgiving for which we give thanks a participation in the blood of Christ? And is not the bread that we break a participation
in the body of Christ? 17 Because there is one loaf, we, who are many, are one body, for we all share the one loaf.
Read this: Adam Kadmon
Adam is the Father of mankind and the kinsman redeemer. The Son of God is all souls from one. We, who are many, are one loaf. Jesus redeemed
25 I know that my redeemer[c] lives,
and that in the end he will stand on the earth.[d]
26 And after my skin has been destroyed,
yet[e] in[f] my flesh I will see God;
27 I myself will see him
with my own eyes—I, and not another.
How my heart yearns within me!
28 “If you say, ‘How we will hound him,
since the root of the trouble lies in him,[g]’
29 you should fear the sword yourselves;
for wrath will bring punishment by the sword,
and then you will know that there is judgment.
Job knew that Adam (Christ as last Adam) would redeem mankind. He also knew the error was in him, as well as the cure. Jesus said, "I and the Father
are one." The Father is Adam. Jesus is the last Adam, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep in the grave. Baptism is our immersion into
the water of life. You must be born again.
Why 2 Creation stories? The Son of God sacrificed himself so that all souls could be raised back to God. Adam did not cause the fall, Eve did. Eve
gains salvation through bearing humanity.
2 Timothy 2
13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. 15 But women[c]
will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety.
Adam gains salvation from the Son of God, the heel of the loaf on each end.
And I will put enmity
between you and the woman,
and between your offspring and hers;
he will crush your head,
and you will strike his heel.”
Why was the 2nd creation of the material world necessary? The sacrifice of the Son to redeem those who had fallen. He took them to a place of
redemption. Baptism is immersion into the water to rise to new life. This is a concept known as involution and evolution.
Involution and Evolution Thread
Gospel of the Nazarenes (Lection 88)
12. For by involution and evolution shall the salvation of all the world be accomplished: by the Descent of Spirit into matter, and the Ascent of
matter into Spirit through the ages.
Involution is turning in on one's self (within). Compare this to Luke 17:
20 Once, on being asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, Jesus replied, “The coming of the kingdom of God is not something that
can be observed, 21 nor will people say, ‘Here it is,’ or ‘There it is,’ because the kingdom of God is in your midst.”
We, who are many, are the body of Christ. Christ is the head.
1 Corinthians 15
If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. 45 So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living being”[f]; the last Adam, a
life-giving spirit. 46 The spiritual did not come first, but the natural, and after that the spiritual.
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