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Originally posted by LoneGunMan
reply to post by Bilk22
No that is not it. The IMF and Goldman Sachs did this. Not the damn people. Why are there these people nowadays that want to blame the people for the banks greed?
Originally posted by LoneGunMan
reply to post by Bilk22
No that is not it. The IMF and Goldman Sachs did this. Not the damn people. Why are there these people nowadays that want to blame the people for the banks greed?
Originally posted by CirqueDeTruth
reply to post by LoneGunMan
People are scared.
We are on precipice and I don't care who you are, it's scary as hell.
Fear, will cause many people to switch their positions real quick. Everyone will be confused. Who to trust? Where do you throw your weight? What if you choose the losing side, even if it's the right side?
~ Cirque
Originally posted by Quauhtli
I wonder how many times in history a government has contracted a foreign military to police it's own people. If my understanding is correct this is what's going on here?
Epic fail, this is a sure fire way to ruin a country. Given enough time the military will step in and perform a coup on it's own government. This is such a tyrannical idea, it's almost unimaginable.
Originally posted by bjax9er
Don't trust the police?
You Greeks better find some guns ASAP.
Originally posted by Bilk22
Originally posted by R_Clark
This story from the New Statesman brings light to what is going on in Greece behind the scenes. It is a look how EU cadres, big business and security (Blackwater redux), and banksters have stripped the country then reset the rules for the people of Greece. One interesting tidbit is that the source confirms that the Greek government does not trust the police and has put in a layer of security control which is private from outside the country. Will this system of control be used on an ongoing basis in other locations to assure compliance?
www.newstatesman.com
(visit the link for the full news article)
Greece and it's people have a lot of issues. The politicians are politicians and do what they do everywhere, placate their constituency in the form of socioeconomic handouts. The Greek people were not fond of paying income taxes. Many either didn't pay at all or just paid what they felt like. They had a much higher expenditure than revenue stream and the country went belly up. Sound familiar?
Want to know what happened there and in other countries facing the same situation, including the US? This explains it well and in lay terms so anyone can understand it. "Boomerang: Travels in the New Third World" by Michael Lewis.
The Greeks are averse to work (generalization) because they, over time, were allowed to retire very early and live a carefree life and all paid for by the government, which ran out of money. There were/are other problems as well, but that's a big part of it. Actually this is a problem in a good part of the EU. Socialism where everyone wants to be equal and no one wants to work more than the next person because they are ............... well, equal and if I have to work more then that's not equal.
Originally posted by defcon5
reply to post by gladtobehereThe following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.
I'm thinking that this statement that “the army will not intervene” is certainly not intended as being in the best interest of the people either. If you read the article, they are afraid that the military would rise up on the side of the people and stage a military coup. So the assurance here is that the military will not be helping the common man revolt against the government, not that the army will not be used by the government against the people.
Just my read on it, could be wrong...As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.
Originally posted by iBallinU
[...]Upon joining the EuroZone, which was setup to benefit the Germans, the Dutch etc[...]
“At a certain moment, quite soon, there will be an explosion of social unrest. It will be very unpleasant,” he says, referring to 15 armed incidents in the previous ten days. In the past few weeks, offices of the governing parties have been firebombed as well as the homes of pro-government journalists. The headquarters of the prime minister's conservative New Democracy party was machine-gunned, and days later a bomb exploded at a shopping mall belonging to the country's second wealthiest citizen, although no one has been badly injured by the attacks.
Chrysanthopoulos says that the government has hired Blackwater, the American private military firm infamous for its activities in Iraq, which now goes by the name "Academi", along with five other international for-profit security outfits. Explaining why this has happened, he says bluntly: “The Greek government does not trust the police whose salaries have also been cut.”