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Topic started on 25-2-2013 @ 05:11 AM by R_Clark

Greece: "A promise from the army has been obtained to not intervene against a civil uprising


www.newstatesman.com
It is always enlightening to hear the frank assessment of a diplomat upon leaving the service, once unshackled from "the patriotic art of lying for one's country", as 19th Century American journalist Ambrose Bierce described the craft.

Leonidas Chrysanthopoulos was a career diplomat with the Greek foreign ministry. As a junior officer with the service in the 1970s, he helped assure the then freshly democratic nation's accession to the European Union (at the time the EEC). He was at different times Athens' ambassador to Poland, Albania and Canada, and finally the director general of EU
(visit the link for the full news article)


reply posted on 25-2-2013 @ 06:46 AM by gladtobehere
reply to post by R_Clark


To the standing armies of the world: take notes.

*Also, dont give up your guns.

That is all.



reply posted on 25-2-2013 @ 03:29 PM by DISRAELI
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If this man is a partisan for a potential "civil uprising", then it would be in his interests to talk it up.
So allowances should be made for over-optimism, concerning "promises from the army".
It's possible that it should be reduced to "a couple of army officers that I know".


reply posted on 25-2-2013 @ 03:41 PM by LoneGunMan
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So they don't have enough money to feed themselves or bury the dead, yet the government is hiring Blackwater assassins? Wow. How can anyone not see how bad this banking situation has become? The world bankers need to be imprisoned for life.

I hope the birthplace of western civilization leads the way.



reply posted on 25-2-2013 @ 04:24 PM by Bilk22
Originally posted by R_Clark


This story from the New Statesman brings light to what is going on in Greece behind the scenes. It is a look how EU cadres, big business and security (Blackwater redux), and banksters have stripped the country then reset the rules for the people of Greece. One interesting tidbit is that the source confirms that the Greek government does not trust the police and has put in a layer of security control which is private from outside the country. Will this system of control be used on an ongoing basis in other locations to assure compliance?

www.newstatesman.com
(visit the link for the full news article)


Greece and it's people have a lot of issues. The politicians are politicians and do what they do everywhere, placate their constituency in the form of socioeconomic handouts. The Greek people were not fond of paying income taxes. Many either didn't pay at all or just paid what they felt like. They had a much higher expenditure than revenue stream and the country went belly up. Sound familiar?

Want to know what happened there and in other countries facing the same situation, including the US? This explains it well and in lay terms so anyone can understand it. "Boomerang: Travels in the New Third World" by Michael Lewis.

The Greeks are averse to work (generalization) because they, over time, were allowed to retire very early and live a carefree life and all paid for by the government, which ran out of money. There were/are other problems as well, but that's a big part of it. Actually this is a problem in a good part of the EU. Socialism where everyone wants to be equal and no one wants to work more than the next person because they are ............... well, equal and if I have to work more then that's not equal.


reply posted on 25-2-2013 @ 05:20 PM by LoneGunMan
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No that is not it. The IMF and Goldman Sachs did this. Not the damn people. Why are there these people nowadays that want to blame the people for the banks greed?


reply posted on 25-2-2013 @ 06:02 PM by CirqueDeTruth
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People are scared.

We are on precipice and I don't care who you are, it's scary as hell.

Fear, will cause many people to switch their positions real quick. Everyone will be confused. Who to trust? Where do you throw your weight? What if you choose the losing side, even if it's the right side?

~ Cirque
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