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reply posted on 25-2-2013 @ 01:04 AM by Hopechest
Originally posted by Philippines
Originally posted by openminded2011
I have felt for a long time, that a lot of people are taking the wrong approach to doomsday prepping. Equipment is NOT what is going to keep you alive. KNOWLEDGE is what will keep you alive. The ability to utilize whatever you find in your environment to survive. The people who are stockpiling unless you are in a heavily fortified fortress and KNOW how to defend it, are simply going to make themselves into targets by those who want what they have. The people who can stay mobile, and use whatever they find to secure food water and shelter will have a much better chance. If you want to spend money, build up a survival library, and learn everything you can about survival, and transfer that knowledge into your head. No one can take that away from you. A big pile of gear is just a grocery store for mobs that will target you for your supplies. Knowing how to fish, what you can eat, how to get water, how to make shelter, and getting EVERYTHING from the surrounding environment instead of stockpiling it, will make you a less attractive target.
edit on 24-2-2013 by openminded2011 because: (no reason given)


I would say knowledge is the first step. Experience/wisdom are what would matter more. Don't get me wrong though, knowledge is a crucial first step before attempting to gain experience =b



I have to agree with you on this one.

You could drop me off in the middle of the Mojave desert and I would be able to survive with no equipment because I was raised in that environment and know it backwards and forwards.

However, I could read all the books in the world about how to survive in an arctic environment but I would probably die from exposure in a couple of days. Knowledge without practicality is useless in my opinion. The real world is never like it is written about in a book.

My parents have a sailboat which is our getaway plan and when I was younger they took me out to learn how to deep sea fish. The few weeks before our trip my father explained how to do everything but once I started it was a horrible failure until he showed me what I was doing wrong.

I knew what to do but it was different when you are actually trying to do it. Now I could explain to a person where to find Sotol in the desert and which parts of it are edible but without going out there and finding it yourself its fairly useless knowledge. Odds are you would walk right by it.

Reading and studying is good but I would suggest everyone takes a trip to their designated area and simply spend a few days out there putting into practice what they have learned. It is invaluable experience.


reply posted on 25-2-2013 @ 01:52 PM by Philippines
Originally posted by Hopechest
Originally posted by Philippines
Originally posted by openminded2011
I have felt for a long time, that a lot of people are taking the wrong approach to doomsday prepping. Equipment is NOT what is going to keep you alive. KNOWLEDGE is what will keep you alive. The ability to utilize whatever you find in your environment to survive. The people who are stockpiling unless you are in a heavily fortified fortress and KNOW how to defend it, are simply going to make themselves into targets by those who want what they have. The people who can stay mobile, and use whatever they find to secure food water and shelter will have a much better chance. If you want to spend money, build up a survival library, and learn everything you can about survival, and transfer that knowledge into your head. No one can take that away from you. A big pile of gear is just a grocery store for mobs that will target you for your supplies. Knowing how to fish, what you can eat, how to get water, how to make shelter, and getting EVERYTHING from the surrounding environment instead of stockpiling it, will make you a less attractive target.
edit on 24-2-2013 by openminded2011 because: (no reason given)


I would say knowledge is the first step. Experience/wisdom are what would matter more. Don't get me wrong though, knowledge is a crucial first step before attempting to gain experience =b



I have to agree with you on this one.

You could drop me off in the middle of the Mojave desert and I would be able to survive with no equipment because I was raised in that environment and know it backwards and forwards.

However, I could read all the books in the world about how to survive in an arctic environment but I would probably die from exposure in a couple of days. Knowledge without practicality is useless in my opinion. The real world is never like it is written about in a book.

My parents have a sailboat which is our getaway plan and when I was younger they took me out to learn how to deep sea fish. The few weeks before our trip my father explained how to do everything but once I started it was a horrible failure until he showed me what I was doing wrong.

I knew what to do but it was different when you are actually trying to do it. Now I could explain to a person where to find Sotol in the desert and which parts of it are edible but without going out there and finding it yourself its fairly useless knowledge. Odds are you would walk right by it.

Reading and studying is good but I would suggest everyone takes a trip to their designated area and simply spend a few days out there putting into practice what they have learned. It is invaluable experience.


Sounds like you get it, and from other posts I have seen from you.

Knowledge is posted everywhere, it's now out there in figuratively public display for people to read and understand as they will.

Thing is, knowledge and understanding are the first step.

It goes from there.. No point in handing out pearls yet =b


reply posted on 25-2-2013 @ 02:35 PM by Gazrok
reply to post by openminded2011



I don't think those stockpiling are ignoring the knowledge aspect. However, it's more than SURVIVING a SHTF event. I'd like to not only survive it, but do so and keep a certain quality of life. Personally, I don't think any particular SHTF scenario is going to last more than 3-6 months before things get back to some kind of order, but who knows?


reply posted on 27-2-2013 @ 03:47 PM by Gazrok
reply to post by neo96



I've run into several real world problems where a little stockpiling has really helped.

Not too long ago, I was out of work for months, until I found another gig. Having food stored really helped stretch our budget to get through that time (now I have to replenish the supplies once caught up again).

We recently had a water leak that prevented us from turning on the water for more than 10 minutes at a time (until repaired). Expensive, so took a while to fix, but having water buckets, storage barrels, etc. helped us maximize those 10 minutes, and still make it workable.

For some reason, nocturnal animals have recently been fascinated by our transformer, and keep getting fried by it (knocking our power out in the process). We're rural, so takes some time before they come out, but we manage just fine without power for a bit. We can cook on the grill, use the fireplace to stay warm, use lanterns around the house (I like the old school oil ones), etc. No biggie.
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