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IMO ..
Everything is Energy
Consciousness is Energy
Everything is Consciousness
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It is only our ability to perceive that limits our understanding.
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Physicists Find Evidence That The Universe Is A 'Giant Brain', page 5
reply posted on 25-2-2013 @ 12:07 PM by intrptr
reply to post by WeAre0ne
Rubbish. I am not you, nor you me. Any more than DNA fingerprints are all the same. You can identify with everyone else if you want to, but I am me, and thats a fact. Try arguing the "DNA all the same thing" in court and see where that delusion gets you.
Why then bother to use the word "you"? Nice magic trick of subliminal suggestion, by the way.
Might as well say we are all each other. Or, we are you. Or you are me. pffft...
Greed, and pride on the part of individuals divide nations, not "individuality". Individuals surely are selfish, full of hate and promote those ideas upon others from a position of control and power. But surely also espouse "oneness" at the same time. It supports their agenda: you have no rights.
What would you do, throw out a whole bunch for one bad banana?
Maybe? You can only answer for or act from you. It is a personal choice to act along with the mob or resist as an individual. What some seek to do I think is escape culpability for their actions. Its so much easier to blame others for what they are or have done. Look at all the recent "rampage murderers". They blame everyone. In their twisted mind what happens to them is everyones fault. How 'one' is that?
Good for the goose, good for the gander?
I don't mind if you pretend to be whomever you want to, but don't come at me with illusions of "oneness". I don't belong to whatever delusional branch of some religion you do.
Well, it's not an idea, it is a fact. You are the Universe. That is undeniable.
Rubbish. I am not you, nor you me. Any more than DNA fingerprints are all the same. You can identify with everyone else if you want to, but I am me, and thats a fact. Try arguing the "DNA all the same thing" in court and see where that delusion gets you.
You are the Universe.
Why then bother to use the word "you"? Nice magic trick of subliminal suggestion, by the way.
Might as well say we are all each other. Or, we are you. Or you are me. pffft...
Individuality is an illusion, and has always been an illusion. That illusion of individuality has become a psychological crutch for some, and I would like to argue that it is the sole cause of mostly all of humanity's problems. It causes selfishness, greed, lack of compassion, racism, class wars, and all egotistical ideas of "me, myself, and I". The illusion of individuality separates and divides nations and people, and is responsible for war on Earth.
Greed, and pride on the part of individuals divide nations, not "individuality". Individuals surely are selfish, full of hate and promote those ideas upon others from a position of control and power. But surely also espouse "oneness" at the same time. It supports their agenda: you have no rights.
What would you do, throw out a whole bunch for one bad banana?
If only everyone understood these simple facts, and contemplated what it entails, maybe a lot of the bad things like war would cease to exist simply because people would understand that they are only harming their self in the end...
Maybe? You can only answer for or act from you. It is a personal choice to act along with the mob or resist as an individual. What some seek to do I think is escape culpability for their actions. Its so much easier to blame others for what they are or have done. Look at all the recent "rampage murderers". They blame everyone. In their twisted mind what happens to them is everyones fault. How 'one' is that?
Good for the goose, good for the gander?
I don't mind if you pretend to be whomever you want to, but don't come at me with illusions of "oneness". I don't belong to whatever delusional branch of some religion you do.
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reply posted on 25-2-2013 @ 12:34 PM by jonnywhite
reply to post by purplemer
No. Quantum entanglement does not transmit information. This is why it does not break special relativity. Basically, what's "transmitted" is random and cannot be influenced by humans. In fact, NOTHING in the universe influences what's shared between entangled particles. The only way that it could be considered information is if it could be controlled and it cannot be.
If anything meaningful is transmitted in this universe, it's at light speed or slower.
Although one wonders if this universe could somehow interact with other universes. It's probably not possible, but those other universes could probably break our rules routinely.
No. Quantum entanglement does not transmit information. This is why it does not break special relativity. Basically, what's "transmitted" is random and cannot be influenced by humans. In fact, NOTHING in the universe influences what's shared between entangled particles. The only way that it could be considered information is if it could be controlled and it cannot be.
If anything meaningful is transmitted in this universe, it's at light speed or slower.
Although one wonders if this universe could somehow interact with other universes. It's probably not possible, but those other universes could probably break our rules routinely.
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reply posted on 25-2-2013 @ 12:42 PM by XLR8R
reply to post by swan001
Not necessarily. Speaking on the terms of humans and Earth and our galaxy, yes you're right. But what if we are but just a part of a neuron in the brain of an organism? Their physical world would work on a whole other level than ours. Think of this, they just found out about the Higgs Boson. And this Higgs Boson is made of something. That something is made of something else. See what I'm getting at? And who knows, maybe on the surface of one of those is a little speck of a Universe.
Not necessarily. Speaking on the terms of humans and Earth and our galaxy, yes you're right. But what if we are but just a part of a neuron in the brain of an organism? Their physical world would work on a whole other level than ours. Think of this, they just found out about the Higgs Boson. And this Higgs Boson is made of something. That something is made of something else. See what I'm getting at? And who knows, maybe on the surface of one of those is a little speck of a Universe.
reply posted on 25-2-2013 @ 12:52 PM by jonnywhite
reply to post by purplemer
This to me is unsurprising.
In fact, I already knew that the structure of superclusters and universal things resembled the structures of our brain. Furthermore, ever seen mountains in satellite images? Looks like the surface of a leaf. Ever seen dozens of river channels crisscrossing each other? Looks like blood vessels.
But I don't see anyone saying that mountains or river channels are "alive".
The other day I had a strange though. I wondered "Why does anything move?" If I was considerably more genius, I might be able to answer that. I'm still wondering about it. Why does anything change? Why does time seem to exist to us? Why is everything not frozen, unable to move?
Obviously, it requires much more education and smarts than I have available to me.
We're lucky that the atoms and particles in our body remember their inertia and direction and other things. If not, we'd probably explode and vaporize. It's fortunate they don't have dementia.
Although I've heard recently that our universe will die in a matter of billions of years. Somehow, a more stable universe emerges and expands at light speed, devouring our current universe.
This to me is unsurprising.
In fact, I already knew that the structure of superclusters and universal things resembled the structures of our brain. Furthermore, ever seen mountains in satellite images? Looks like the surface of a leaf. Ever seen dozens of river channels crisscrossing each other? Looks like blood vessels.
But I don't see anyone saying that mountains or river channels are "alive".
The other day I had a strange though. I wondered "Why does anything move?" If I was considerably more genius, I might be able to answer that. I'm still wondering about it. Why does anything change? Why does time seem to exist to us? Why is everything not frozen, unable to move?
Obviously, it requires much more education and smarts than I have available to me.
We're lucky that the atoms and particles in our body remember their inertia and direction and other things. If not, we'd probably explode and vaporize. It's fortunate they don't have dementia.
Although I've heard recently that our universe will die in a matter of billions of years. Somehow, a more stable universe emerges and expands at light speed, devouring our current universe.
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reply posted on 25-2-2013 @ 01:13 PM by Ewok_Boba
reply to post by mr10k
What is an organism?
something capable of response to stimuli, reproduction, growth and development, and maintenance of homeostasis as a stable whole.
Examples of this are found in the universe on a daily basis..
Opinion doesn't matter where words have already been defined, bro.
Plus, you're not taking into the account the fact that an infantile school of thought like science just might not know anything yet, regardless of what it has gathered so far.
What is an organism?
something capable of response to stimuli, reproduction, growth and development, and maintenance of homeostasis as a stable whole.
Examples of this are found in the universe on a daily basis..
Opinion doesn't matter where words have already been defined, bro.
Plus, you're not taking into the account the fact that an infantile school of thought like science just might not know anything yet, regardless of what it has gathered so far.
reply posted on 25-2-2013 @ 01:17 PM by Ewok_Boba
Originally posted by Konoyaro
reply to post by swan001
If you look at the distance between electrons or any such thing relative to their size, it is almost like a solar system, perhaps there is life there to, just too small to see...
Yeah, I think though, that because man is so good at classifying and defining things, he therefore categorizes them so long as they meet certain criteria. For example, if we think we know an electron for what it is (a negatively charged particle) and nothing more, we will never consider it as having any other importance. As a collective, we're really good at doing this. So seeing an electron cloud as a solar system, or universe of its own, seems impossible from this particular approach at seeing the world.
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reply posted on 25-2-2013 @ 02:34 PM by WeAre0ne
reply to post by intrptr
Wow, your insulting reply really highlights your built up anger, paranoia, and blindness. Where do I even start? Lets start with your insult...
I don't belong to any religion. In fact, what I have been telling you is pure scientific fact. Oneness is not an illusion, that too is a scientific fact. To insist I belong to a "delusional branch of some religion" is simply an insult to me and science. It shows that you are quite ignorant and angry as well. I shouldn't even waste my time replying to you, but I must at least attempt to cure your blindness.
Rubbish... You and I are both different parts of one object. You being you, and me being me, is just an illusion. We are both the same entity viewing itself from different perspectives. You are but one perspective, I am another. I am not talking figuratively, I am talking literally, physically, we are one. Our individuality is an illusion created by the illusion of separation. You actually think you are disconnected and separate from the Universe, but you are not. Do you really think your body stops at your skin? It doesn't... The entire Universe is our body, physically. We would not exist without the rest of the Universe and all the energy within it.
We are both made of a collection of electromagnetic subatomic particles called electrons, protons, and neutrons which are made of even smaller elementary particles called quarks and leptons. We are little bits of energy that were all created at the same time (the Big Bang), and it all adds up to a total sum. Our bones, organs, muscles, and skin are all made of the same electromagnetic energy as the air, dirt, rocks, water, plants, trees, and all the elements on Earth. In fact, our DNA is made of elements found all around Earth; Hydrogen, Carbon, Oxygen, Nitrogen, Phosphorus which are all made of elementary particles.
We are made of Earth, we were created on Earth, we eat Earth, drink Earth, breath Earth, and Earth circulates through our bodies... We are Earth which has come alive.
Everything is connected... For one, we are all connected by gravity and electromagnetism. Every particle of matter has gravity which extends out infinitely. All matter is electromagnetic as well, and that too extends out infinitely. So the particles that make up your body are connected to the particles of Earth. Your skin is connected to the air, connected to the ground, and connected to everything around you, and all those things are connected with all other things. You are connected to Earth, the Earth connected to the Moon, and the Sun, which are all connected to every other star and planet and galaxy in the Universe. All connected via gravity and electromagnetism.
We are all connected electronically as well. We all share electrons. In fact, if I wanted, I can pass electrons which create my body through a wire and into your body. The same electrons which are used to create thoughts in my brain I can also use to power my computer as well. I can put my electrons in a door knob, on all metal objects, or send them to the Earth. The same electrons that create lighting strikes in a storm are used to operate our muscles, and give us our senses. We are electrons... we share electrons.
We are all connected via LIGHT too (electromagnetic radiation). We all emit light, and reflect light, and it crosses all over the Universe. We are all connected via streams of light (photons).
We are undeniably connected, and one. It is a fact.
...to be continued...
Wow, your insulting reply really highlights your built up anger, paranoia, and blindness. Where do I even start? Lets start with your insult...
Originally posted by intrptr
I don't mind if you pretend to be whomever you want to, but don't come at me with illusions of "oneness". I don't belong to whatever delusional branch of some religion you do.
I don't belong to any religion. In fact, what I have been telling you is pure scientific fact. Oneness is not an illusion, that too is a scientific fact. To insist I belong to a "delusional branch of some religion" is simply an insult to me and science. It shows that you are quite ignorant and angry as well. I shouldn't even waste my time replying to you, but I must at least attempt to cure your blindness.
Originally posted by intrptr
Rubbish. I am not you, nor you me. Any more than DNA fingerprints are all the same. You can identify with everyone else if you want to, but I am me, and thats a fact. Try arguing the "DNA all the same thing" in court and see where that delusion gets you.
Rubbish... You and I are both different parts of one object. You being you, and me being me, is just an illusion. We are both the same entity viewing itself from different perspectives. You are but one perspective, I am another. I am not talking figuratively, I am talking literally, physically, we are one. Our individuality is an illusion created by the illusion of separation. You actually think you are disconnected and separate from the Universe, but you are not. Do you really think your body stops at your skin? It doesn't... The entire Universe is our body, physically. We would not exist without the rest of the Universe and all the energy within it.
We are both made of a collection of electromagnetic subatomic particles called electrons, protons, and neutrons which are made of even smaller elementary particles called quarks and leptons. We are little bits of energy that were all created at the same time (the Big Bang), and it all adds up to a total sum. Our bones, organs, muscles, and skin are all made of the same electromagnetic energy as the air, dirt, rocks, water, plants, trees, and all the elements on Earth. In fact, our DNA is made of elements found all around Earth; Hydrogen, Carbon, Oxygen, Nitrogen, Phosphorus which are all made of elementary particles.
We are made of Earth, we were created on Earth, we eat Earth, drink Earth, breath Earth, and Earth circulates through our bodies... We are Earth which has come alive.
Everything is connected... For one, we are all connected by gravity and electromagnetism. Every particle of matter has gravity which extends out infinitely. All matter is electromagnetic as well, and that too extends out infinitely. So the particles that make up your body are connected to the particles of Earth. Your skin is connected to the air, connected to the ground, and connected to everything around you, and all those things are connected with all other things. You are connected to Earth, the Earth connected to the Moon, and the Sun, which are all connected to every other star and planet and galaxy in the Universe. All connected via gravity and electromagnetism.
We are all connected electronically as well. We all share electrons. In fact, if I wanted, I can pass electrons which create my body through a wire and into your body. The same electrons which are used to create thoughts in my brain I can also use to power my computer as well. I can put my electrons in a door knob, on all metal objects, or send them to the Earth. The same electrons that create lighting strikes in a storm are used to operate our muscles, and give us our senses. We are electrons... we share electrons.
We are all connected via LIGHT too (electromagnetic radiation). We all emit light, and reflect light, and it crosses all over the Universe. We are all connected via streams of light (photons).
We are undeniably connected, and one. It is a fact.
...to be continued...
reply posted on 25-2-2013 @ 03:07 PM by jessejamesxx
Originally posted by mr10k
Originally posted by WeAre0ne
reply to post by mr10k
Do you think? Are you aware?
Are you not a part of this Universe?
The Universe isn't just me, and I'm just made of much smaller particles. So you tell me, do those particles think?edit on 24-2-2013 by mr10k because: (no reason given)
The smaller particles don't make up your consciousness. I would say some form of energy does. (Like the power to a computer, or virtual ram, it doesn't matter what hardware you have if there is no power.) That energy originated in a star at some point. Everything you have ever seen in your entire life probably came from a single star. I think individual consciousnesses could be connected at some level..
On a weird side note, I've always wondered if stars had any sort of awareness or consciousness. That would be cool.
reply posted on 25-2-2013 @ 03:13 PM by WeAre0ne
reply to post by intrptr
Magic trick of subliminal suggestion... wow... paranoid much?
I use words like "you" and "I" because I understand that in order to explain oneness to the unenlightened, it is necessary to use verbiage and concepts that the unenlightened can understand to avoid confusion.
You are me, and I am you, physically. We are the same object. But I am a different part of you, and you are a different part of me. That is an absolute truth.
Greed and pride are the result of individuality.
I have rights... I am the Universe. I am rights.
I said "maybe" because I factored in mental disorders. Evil things like war and greed can not be cured by absolute philosophical truths and enlightenment if the person is mentally unstable and or incapable of understanding said truth, let alone applying said truth to their life, and ignoring the illusions.
Everything that happens was the result of something else that happened. Everything that happens is the fault of the Universe.
Have you ever heard of Anti-individualism? The environment forms the illusion of individuality. Those "rampage murderers" would have never happened if the environment didn't allow it to happen by creating that situation. The environment is you, and I, and everyone, and everything (the Universe).
What I think is that people like you hate to be blamed for the actions of others, so you hide behind your individuality illusion. For example, bullies hate taking the blame for the suicides and mass murderers they helped cause by driving a person mad. Sure they didn't physically contribute to the deaths, but they were the cause.
We are all at blame for everything. We are the Universe, and everything that happens within is the Universes fault. As uncomfortable that is to accept, you can't deny it because you don't like it. You have to accept it for what it is.
Anyway, this is getting off topic. Back on topic...
Yes, the Universe is a giant brain. The collective brain power on Earth alone is proof of that...
Originally posted by intrptr
Why then bother to use the word "you"? Nice magic trick of subliminal suggestion, by the way.
Might as well say we are all each other. Or, we are you. Or you are me. pffft...
Magic trick of subliminal suggestion... wow... paranoid much?
I use words like "you" and "I" because I understand that in order to explain oneness to the unenlightened, it is necessary to use verbiage and concepts that the unenlightened can understand to avoid confusion.
You are me, and I am you, physically. We are the same object. But I am a different part of you, and you are a different part of me. That is an absolute truth.
Originally posted by intrptr
Greed, and pride on the part of individuals divide nations, not "individuality". Individuals surely are selfish, full of hate and promote those ideas upon others from a position of control and power. But surely also espouse "oneness" at the same time. It supports their agenda: you have no rights.
Greed and pride are the result of individuality.
I have rights... I am the Universe. I am rights.
Originally posted by intrptr
Maybe? You can only answer for or act from you. It is a personal choice to act along with the mob or resist as an individual. What some seek to do I think is escape culpability for their actions. Its so much easier to blame others for what they are or have done. Look at all the recent "rampage murderers". They blame everyone. In their twisted mind what happens to them is everyones fault. How 'one' is that?
I said "maybe" because I factored in mental disorders. Evil things like war and greed can not be cured by absolute philosophical truths and enlightenment if the person is mentally unstable and or incapable of understanding said truth, let alone applying said truth to their life, and ignoring the illusions.
Everything that happens was the result of something else that happened. Everything that happens is the fault of the Universe.
Have you ever heard of Anti-individualism? The environment forms the illusion of individuality. Those "rampage murderers" would have never happened if the environment didn't allow it to happen by creating that situation. The environment is you, and I, and everyone, and everything (the Universe).
What I think is that people like you hate to be blamed for the actions of others, so you hide behind your individuality illusion. For example, bullies hate taking the blame for the suicides and mass murderers they helped cause by driving a person mad. Sure they didn't physically contribute to the deaths, but they were the cause.
We are all at blame for everything. We are the Universe, and everything that happens within is the Universes fault. As uncomfortable that is to accept, you can't deny it because you don't like it. You have to accept it for what it is.
Anyway, this is getting off topic. Back on topic...
Yes, the Universe is a giant brain. The collective brain power on Earth alone is proof of that...
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reply posted on 25-2-2013 @ 04:24 PM by CirqueDeTruth
reply to post by WeAre0ne
Welcome to ATS. I enjoyed your post.
I hope you stick around ATS to contribute more of your thoughts.
Peace,
Cirque
Welcome to ATS. I enjoyed your post.
I hope you stick around ATS to contribute more of your thoughts.
Peace,
Cirque
reply posted on 25-2-2013 @ 04:42 PM by intrptr
reply to post by WeAre0ne
Sorry if I insulted you. How could I be angry with you, I don't even know who you are. Whoops I used the word "you". As opposed to "me" ... and "you". Identity crisis is not one of my problems. (Sigh) Yes I am part of the Universe and my flesh is made of the elements in this world upon which my soul currently resides.
The difference is I am not my flesh. I am the soul that resides in this flesh at this time. When the body wears out, I will pass and be done with this flesh. I will continue, it will rot. It will recycle.
Call it what you will... your "beliefs". You may call it a fact but you haven't died yet, what do you know about being "one"?
There you go again using delimiters to specify or distinguish "you" from "me". Shame on you. You just violated your "facts". Forgive "me" if that comes across as an insult to "you".
No I do not. I am in the Universe and still myself.
Yes my dermic layer is called 'skin'. It covers and protects "my body". Yes I do exist without my body. Don't you know you have a soul... the real "you"?
We are alive, the earth is not. Or maybe you can find "life" on the Periodic Table of the elements?
Doesn't explain life. Or what I feel true connections are... love, friendship, trust. Those are true human connections. Not matter or science.
But you can't turn one hair on your head white or black. Simply harnessing power of the Universe doesn't prove anything about "oneness". More important to my mind is, "Can I trust you?"
Precious. You are supposed to say "we", remember? I have no delusion about how you are trying to subvert my individuality. Somewhere along
the line you bought this line of thinking... thats your problem. I am quite clear.
Whatever, I am ending on that note. You go on and believe you are "The Universe' or your own God or whatever. This charade has gone on long enough. I am going to allow you to be you... I wouldn't have it any other way.
Sorry if I insulted you. How could I be angry with you, I don't even know who you are. Whoops I used the word "you". As opposed to "me" ... and "you". Identity crisis is not one of my problems. (Sigh) Yes I am part of the Universe and my flesh is made of the elements in this world upon which my soul currently resides.
The difference is I am not my flesh. I am the soul that resides in this flesh at this time. When the body wears out, I will pass and be done with this flesh. I will continue, it will rot. It will recycle.
I don't belong to any religion. In fact, what I have been telling you is pure scientific fact.
Call it what you will... your "beliefs". You may call it a fact but you haven't died yet, what do you know about being "one"?
You and I are both different parts of one object. You being you, and me being me, is just an illusion.
There you go again using delimiters to specify or distinguish "you" from "me". Shame on you. You just violated your "facts". Forgive "me" if that comes across as an insult to "you".
You actually think you are disconnected and separate from the Universe, but you are not.
No I do not. I am in the Universe and still myself.
Do you really think your body stops at your skin? It doesn't... The entire Universe is our body, physically. We would not exist without the rest of the Universe and all the energy within it.
Yes my dermic layer is called 'skin'. It covers and protects "my body". Yes I do exist without my body. Don't you know you have a soul... the real "you"?
We are Earth which has come alive.
We are alive, the earth is not. Or maybe you can find "life" on the Periodic Table of the elements? ...all connected to every other star and planet and galaxy in the Universe. All connected via gravity and electromagnetism.
Doesn't explain life. Or what I feel true connections are... love, friendship, trust. Those are true human connections. Not matter or science.
In fact, if I wanted, I can pass electrons which create my body through a wire and into your body. The same electrons which are used to create thoughts in my brain I can also use to power my computer as well.
But you can't turn one hair on your head white or black. Simply harnessing power of the Universe doesn't prove anything about "oneness". More important to my mind is, "Can I trust you?"
I use words like "you" and "I" because I understand that in order to explain oneness to the unenlightened, it is necessary to use verbiage and concepts that the unenlightened can understand to avoid confusion.
Precious. You are supposed to say "we", remember? I have no delusion about how you are trying to subvert my individuality. Somewhere along
the line you bought this line of thinking... thats your problem. I am quite clear. Whatever, I am ending on that note. You go on and believe you are "The Universe' or your own God or whatever. This charade has gone on long enough. I am going to allow you to be you... I wouldn't have it any other way.
reply posted on 25-2-2013 @ 04:46 PM by onequestion
reply to post by purplemer
OMG i have been saying this forever.
The universe is our mind.
We are looking at ourselves.
Holy crap. Bout time science caught up with philosophy.
I swear to god im going sit here and go through my post and link the 500 times ive said this in the past 3-4 years on this website.
OMG i have been saying this forever.
The universe is our mind.
We are looking at ourselves.
Holy crap. Bout time science caught up with philosophy.
I swear to god im going sit here and go through my post and link the 500 times ive said this in the past 3-4 years on this website.
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reply posted on 25-2-2013 @ 04:49 PM by onequestion
reply to post by purplemer
I think this also proves that mythology is the story of ourselves as told by the stars.
This also proves astrology, that if you understand how to read it and apply it to your paradigm you will be able to determine its meaning.
I think this also proves that mythology is the story of ourselves as told by the stars.
This also proves astrology, that if you understand how to read it and apply it to your paradigm you will be able to determine its meaning.
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