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reply posted on 6-11-2004 @ 02:03 AM by gq1412

Theron, what degree mason are you?

reply posted on 6-11-2004 @ 11:45 AM by theron dunn

I am a third degree mason.

Why?

reply posted on 6-11-2004 @ 03:41 PM by nwscc

Presidents when inargurated are sworn in on a Masonic Bible from the local lodge.

reply posted on 6-11-2004 @ 04:54 PM by theron dunn

Yes, but that is an AMERICAN tradition. It is the same bible that George Washington borrowed from the St. John's Lodge #1...

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As Washington was about to be sworn in, he asked for a Bible on which to take his oath of office. While the most minute details of the inauguration ceremony had been planned, it appears that no one thought about this particular matter. A search of Federal Hall failed to produce one but New York Chancellor Robert R. Livingston who was also the Grand Master of New York Freemasonry knew there would be one in the Lodge Room of St. John's Lodge #1 a few short yards away. The Parade Grand Marshal, General Jacob Morton, was the Worshipful Master of that lodge and was dispatched to obtain the Bible there. When he returned, events proceeded and the country had its first President. We also learn from Allen E. Roberts' Freemasonry In American History that:

The Federal Gazette of Philadelphia reported: "The Impression of his past services, the concourse of spectators, the devout fervency with which he repeated the oath, and the reverential manner in which he bowed down and kissed the sacred volume - all these conspired to render it one of the most august and interesting spectacles ever exhibited on the globe."

Of course, any Mason reading the above would be immediately struck by the wording used as it conveys the sense of humility and respect with which Masonic obligations are taken.

As the oath concluded, Gen. Morton turned down the corner of the page on which Brother Washington's left hand had rested. A silk ribbon was thereafter inserted to mark the place.

Since that time, the Bible has been known as the "Washington Bible" and for over 200 years ago, Freemasons with their keen sense of history have carefully preserved this unique piece of Americana for later generations to enjoy.

This national treasure was nearly destroyed on September 11, 2001 when the World Trade Towers in New York were attacked by terrorists. The Bible had been on loan from St. Johns Lodge #1 for an exhibit in the Faunces Tavern Museum, just a few blocks from the horrific event. Two days later, Brother Tom Savini, Director of the Chancellor Robert R. Livingston Masonic Library and Museum was taken under special escort to Faunces Tavern Museum where he was able to recover the Washington Bible.

A "Masonic Bible" is nothing more that a King James Version of the bible, printed with masonic history and flyleaves. Most presidents have taken the oath of OFFICE on this bible, which is transported by three brothers each year to the site of the inauguration. This bible never travels by air to protect it from being lost in an accident.

In 2000, George Bush did NOT use this bible as it was raining, and there was concern for damage to this historical icon, being as the swearing in was in an open area where the book could have gotten wet. His father DID use this book, as did Ronald Regan and many other presidents, though it is likely that the current President Bush will use this bible THIS time as he is sworn in.

However, taking an oath as President on a Bible borrowed from a Masonic Lodge does NOT make a man a mason, though it is a significant physical link from the current president to the masons that FOUNDED this country.

[edit on 11/6/04 by theron dunn]

reply posted on 6-11-2004 @ 07:22 PM by AFAMfounder

The one misconception about the S & B and freemasons is that there is no connection when in fact, there is some connection the FACT that two of the key founders were freemasons has a lot influence in their ritual just like any OTHER fraternal organization....they get their rituals and ideals from US

-S & C

reply posted on 11-11-2004 @ 03:35 PM by swordsman

Originally posted by theron dunnBush should offer him the job of Secretary of Defense now that Condie is going to State...

Nah, he should be appointed ambassador to France

reply posted on 11-11-2004 @ 07:08 PM by tomb_of_lazarus

bush is a skull and bones member, skull and bones members are concitered as masons

a mason is a lodge member

people think it only refers to as the scottish and york rite

reply posted on 11-11-2004 @ 07:12 PM by Masonic Light

Originally posted by tomb_of_lazarus
bush is a skull and bones member, skull and bones members are concitered as masons

Members of the Skulls and Bones Society are not considered Masons in any way, shape, or form. Membership in Skull and Bones has absolutely no relevance to membership in a Masonic Lodge.

Freemasonry and Skull and Bones are completely separate organizations, and no Skull and Bones would be allowed to attend a Masonic meeting if such Bones member was not also a member of a Masonic Lodge.

Nor or all members of Skull and Bones eligible to become Masons. Skull and Bones admits female members and atheists, whereas all regular Freemasons are male and are theists.

Fiat Lvx.

reply posted on 11-11-2004 @ 07:13 PM by theron dunn

Originally posted by tomb_of_lazarus
bush is a skull and bones member, skull and bones members are concitered as masons

a mason is a lodge member

people think it only refers to as the scottish and york rite

Actually, anyone that knows ANYTHING does not consider a skull and bones a mason, any more than you would consider a moose an elk... two different clubs and two different animals.

A mason is a member of a masonic lodge. Scottish Rite is made up of masons, but is NOT lodge. York Rite is made up of masons, but is NOT lodge. Skull and bones is a college fraternity/sorority, not a lodge.

George Bush is NOT a mason.

But thanks for sharing with us... whatever it was you were trying to share...