"UFO Hunters" was COINTELPRO per Jef Harvey

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posted on Feb, 24 2013 @ 06:58 AM
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This story caught my interest. Jef Harvey, a former intelligence officer, and star of a UFO Hunters episode where an alien implant was removed in 2009, says that the objective of the show's producers was clearly disinformation.

In this episode, the implant is removed by Dr. Leir. What the show leaves out is that further testing indicated that the implant was melding with the human DNA, and that it was clearly emitting radio signals (which the show covered but dismissed). Here is the episode on YouTube.



Jef Harvey: "What they were saying was these were spurious signals. And they were trying to use an MIT counterintelligence operative. Guy’s name was Ted Acworth. His job was to debunk anything that might prove that there’s such a thing as implants or any of that. It was pretty clear to anyone who’s ever been in intelligence what his job was."

"His job was to find any excuse to ameliorate the facts that were there in front of you. The bad news is because you didn’t hear, as the viewer of the show, that I was in military intelligence in electronics, there was never any way for what I said to be gauged as something that might possibly override what they were using as disinformation."

"When they pulled that piece out, they pulled out a lot of information that lent credibility to what was really going on. In fact, “UFO Hunters” was a disinformation channel designed to debunk any kind of UFO anything."

www.examiner.com...
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posted on Feb, 24 2013 @ 07:12 AM
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Interesting, I remember seeing that episode a couple of years back, unfortunately you just can't trust any source of mainstream media or television shows. Time and time again truths have been bent so far and out of proportion that people steer away from them. The sad fact of the matter is that small time media companies try and produce as much factual evidence as possible always get squished before it goes mainstream. Frustrating but one could only hope that there will come a time where an event of major proportions will ultimately disclose the blatant misinformation machines that spew out confusion to the masses.

Good things



posted on Feb, 24 2013 @ 07:31 AM
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That was a History channel effort, I think that NG also had Dr Leir featured in one of theirs. All those programmes are pretty bull anyway, you can trust none of them, and it's difficult to know how much observers in those programmes are there for disinfo purposes.

I added in what I think is the video, the OP link seems to be faulty.


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posted on Feb, 24 2013 @ 07:36 AM
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I loved some of those stupid reenactments. I remember realizing Acworth and that other mad scientist guy were full of it when they tried replicating how ufos enter water. They used bubbles on the leading edge, yeah right, that's close to antigravity.


I at least give the show credit for getting more of this issue out there

p.s. and the Leir implants showed no inflammation or encapsulation or scarring around the implant raising the issue of whether or not they are implanted or perhaps grown from inside?
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posted on Feb, 24 2013 @ 07:44 AM
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Guy’s name was Ted Acworth. His job was to debunk anything that might prove that there’s such a thing as implants or any of that.


That was Ted Acworth's job , he was the counter to Bill and Pat ... Mostly Bill , he was there to add a bit of reasoned thinking .


experiences in Navy Intel and Remote Viewing intersect with his health research (his present forte) by way of his relationship with Todd Murphy, making Jef one of the few distributors on Earth of Todd’s system based on his mentor, Michael A. Persinger’s, God Helmet (Persinger is a possible former CIA disinformation specialist from the AVIARY working with UFO/ET propaganda and probably Operation Janus/Project Blue Beam)
radioamerikanow.com...

So Jef Harvey has links to the AVIARY , I think I'll leave my mind uncontrolled thanks


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posted on Feb, 24 2013 @ 07:48 AM
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I watched that show a few times and that was all it took to realize it was anything but a search for evidence. It was amazing the lengths they went to debunk eye witness accounts. Some of the attempts were comical, most just wrong. They would attach lights to something, fly it and say,"That looks exactly like what was reported" when it wasn't even close. There is so much fake reporting, CGI, Photoshop and just outright lying to get attention, that I dismiss 99.99% of what's out there.



posted on Feb, 24 2013 @ 09:56 AM
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The thing is also, (If Jef Harvey himself is to be believed that is) why did Bill Birne turn the other cheek over the 'implant'?
As editor of UFO magazine, he would have stood to lose a lot of credibility both for himself and the magazine.
It doesn't matter now, since the magazine is defunct since last year, and there was some concern why Bill Birne still took subcriptions for a defunct publication. All that makes 'UFO hunters' a bit shady, and I would be inclined to believe what Jef Harvey is talking about, although the man is also intelligence orientated. It's all a bit murky.



posted on Feb, 24 2013 @ 10:47 AM
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I still dont believe it was an implant in the first place, alien or military. When we get foreign bodies embedded in us some of the time the body creates a protective sack around them to protect us from infection.



posted on Feb, 24 2013 @ 11:04 AM
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Reminds me of the Seinfeld episode where Elaine was dating the podiatrist who was sensitive about not being considered a real doctor.


Not a real surprise that there would be EMI/RFI in a room full of computers and medical equipment. Also not a surprise that it would not be detected outside.

And the wild declaration that the implant was "moving away from the tweezers" was laughable. It wasn't suspended in space, but rather embedded in soft tissue not visible in the X-ray. When you push on the surrounding tissue the "implant" is going to move with it.



posted on Feb, 24 2013 @ 07:04 PM
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"UFO Hunters" is excellent.

They talked about REAL M.I.B

and not many documentaries will touch that topic.

www.youtube.com...

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posted on Feb, 24 2013 @ 11:57 PM
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For this Topic,
I have every UFO Hunter episode on my DVR and know this episode well.
For me it wasn't Jef Harvey who put me off on the episode rather than the Dr. Leir after I researched him I just didn't feel comfortable with him and his ways.
Now that I know Jef's story, I will say this guy has some interesting stuff, not in Aliens from outer-space but from Bio Intelligence. I listened to this hour long interview 2 times and will say it is very interesting.
I will say I do not agree with everything Jef says, like CIA opts everywhere including producers of tv shows. I just think most producers are just retards that cater to anyone who is gullible on a certain subject. Producers bottom line is to sell the show at all cost truth or lie and that includes TV News, news is just a show too.

I will conclude,
Interesting,is it truthful? who knows but at least it's interesting.

I'm listening to a previous interview from Jef now vimeo.com... jef is talking about being rebellious on authority and calling out the bad guys.
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Update, as I listen to this guy talk I feel he is off the deep end. To bad, I was hoping for more.
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posted on Feb, 25 2013 @ 02:43 AM
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I don't know about the rest of them but the Edwards Air Force base episode was very interesting and included documents and pilot transmission recordings about the case -it also featured the first television interview with air traffic controller Chuck Sorrels.





Part 2, 3, 4, 5


Chuck Sorrels: I was the air traffic controller on duty in Edwards tower on the night of October 7, 1965. I was working a midnight shift in the tower when at approximately 1:30 a.m., I spotted a group of luminous objects in the air above and around Edwards Air Force Base. They had a flashing red light on the bottom, with a green, glowing light above the red..


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The episode describing the Holland Michigan radar visual case was also pretty fascinating..



See 4:35




On the evening of March 8, 1994, residents of Southwest Michigan began seeing strange things in the skies over Lake Michigan to the south of Holland. Blue, white, red, and green lights, sometimes attached to cylindrical objects, and sometimes performing unusual maneuvers, were reported.


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as was the one featuring the UFO incident with Peruvian military pilot Oscar Santa Maria Huerta.






"At this point, I came within about 300 feet of the UFO. It was about 30 feet in diameter. It was an enameled, cream-colored dome, with a wide, circular, metallic base. It had no engines, no exhausts, no windows, no wings or antennae. It lacked all the typical aircraft components, with no visible propulsion system."


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Cheers.



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posted on Feb, 25 2013 @ 05:19 PM
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UFO Hunters Season 1 correct? I never paid attention to that one. So the whole show is disinfo?

Could it be - debunk excplicitly something to make it clear it is fake/fabricated and in this way to hide somethin?

Either way I do not think Bill and the others were good enough at being objective to decide. However, if all they were doing was entertaining with actually doing things to mislead the audience that watches the show.. wow just wow...






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