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The most senior Catholic clergyman in Britain has suggested that priests should be able to marry and have sex.
Catholic priests have in fact been permitted to marry and have sex for longer in the Roman Catholic Church’s lifetime than they have been forbidden. It was only in the eleventh century that the laws insisting upon celibacy for all priests were officially formalised.
Anglican clergy who have defected to Rome have also been allowed to stay in marital relationships.
The Indepedent
Originally posted by ollncasino
It is my understanding that priests were stopped from having wives and children early in the Middle Ages to stop a priest's wealth from leaving the church when he died. There appears to be no theological reason for it.
Originally posted by Lucid Lunacy
This is good in a non-religious sense. Bad in the religious one. This is an example of religion modernizing itself due to the cognitive dissonance of holding these archaic beliefs in the modern world.
Originally posted by Lil Drummerboy
Hmmm.
it is hearsay,.. but.. arnt most priests gay?
2 Now the overseer is to be above reproach, faithful to his wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, 3 not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money. 4 He must manage his own family well and see that his children obey him, and he must do so in a manner worthy of full[a] respect. 5
The prejudice that celibacy is more "spiritual" than marriage is non-Biblical, and I suspect it of being borrowed from other religions in the very early days of the church.
The bible specifically says that a Leader of a church should be Married and mange his own family well.Nuns and Priest being celibate is a pagan practice the church adopted to make the "roman" part of the church more comfortable as several of the religions of rome practiced it.
Paul advocated this strongly.
I will refrain from questioning Paul's connection to divinity in this discussion.
I will say that Biblically speaking it is sound.
If you suspect celibacy came from Roman religions, then you should know that Roman influence on the Biblical faith started ever since Constantine made it the state religion. The Roman also organized the Council of Nicea which framed Christian theology as we know it,by votes... and not by what the Bible actually teaches. The Roman influence on Christianity is not just limited to the Catholic branch. But thats a different topic altogether.
None of which addresses the female nun aspect which matches several roman religions that had female priestess who where to remain celibate for their god.
they recognize paul yet their "Traditions" Contradict their bible which they recognize as divinely inspired and includes pauls teachings.
Perhaps might help with with the child sex abuse problems they have .
If not then the vatican is just a safe haven for pedophiles .
Originally posted by Lucid Lunacy
reply to post by ollncasino
This is good in a non-religious sense. Bad in the religious one. This is an example of religion modernizing itself due to the cognitive dissonance of holding these archaic beliefs in the modern world.
Originally posted by ollncasino
It would be a safe to assume that if a man decides to voluntarily become celibate (for the rest of his life) then he has 'issues' of some sort.
Originally posted by benrl
The bible specifically says that a Leader of a church should be Married and mange his own family well.
Originally posted by benrl
None of which addresses the female nun aspect which matches several roman religions that had female priestess who where to remain celibate for their god.