Fake Planes in the Sky; Spraying Chemicals Into the Air, Being Controlled By Aliens?

Originally posted by ArchaicDesigns

Anyone who tells you there isn't any form of aerial spraying going on up there needs to do some research...

United States Patent and Trademark Office,

1957075 – May 1, 1934 – Airplane Spray Equipment
2097581 – November 2, 1937 – Electric Stream Generator – Referenced in 3990987
2409201 – October 15, 1946 – Smoke Producing Mixture
2476171 – July 18, 1945 – Smoke Screen Generator
2480967 – September 6, 1949 – Aerial Discharge Device
2550324 – April 24, 1951 – Process For Controlling Weather
2510867 – October 9, 1951 – Method of Crystal Formation and Precipitation
2582678 – June 15, 1952 – Material Disseminating Apparatus For Airplanes
2591988 – April 8, 1952 – Production of TiO2 Pigments – Referenced in 3899144
2614083 – October 14, 1952 – Metal Chloride Screening Smoke Mixture
2633455 – March 31, 1953 – Smoke Generator
2688069 – August 31, 1954 – Steam Generator – Referenced in 3990987
2721495 – October 25, 1955 – Method And Apparatus For Detecting Minute Crystal Forming Particles Suspended in a Gaseous Atmosphere
2730402 – January 10, 1956 – Controllable Dispersal Device
2801322 – July 30, 1957 – Decomposition Chamber for Monopropellant Fuel – Referenced in 3990987
2881335 – April 7, 1959 – Generation of Electrical Fields

3899144 – August 12, 1975 – Powder contrail generation
3940059 – February 24, 1976 – Method For Fog Dispersion
3940060 – February 24, 1976 – Vortex Ring Generator
3990987 – November 9, 1976 – Smoke generator
3992628 – November 16, 1976 – Countermeasure system for laser radiation
3994437 – November 30, 1976 – Broadcast dissemination of trace quantities of biologically active chemicals
4042196 – August 16, 1977 – Method and apparatus for triggering a substantial change in earth characteristics and measuring earth changes

4415265 – November 15, 1983 – Method and apparatus for aerosol particle absorption spectroscopy
4470544 – September 11, 1984 – Method of and Means for weather modification
4475927 – October 9, 1984 – Bipolar Fog Abatement System
4600147 – July 15, 1986 – Liquid propane generator for cloud seeding apparatus
4633714 – January 6, 1987 – Aerosol particle charge and size analyzer
4643355 – February 17, 1987 – Method and apparatus for modification of climatic conditions
4653690 – March 31, 1987 – Method of producing cumulus clouds
4684063 – August 4, 1987 – Particulates generation and removal
4686605 – August 11, 1987 – Method and apparatus for altering a region in the earth’s atmosphere, ionosphere, and/or magnetosphere
4704942 – November 10, 1987 – Charged Aerosol
4712155 – December 8, 1987 – Method and apparatus for creating an artificial electron cyclotron heating region of plasma
4744919 – May 17, 1988 – Method of dispersing particulate aerosol tracer
4766725 – August 30, 1988 – Method of suppressing formation of contrails and solution therefor
4829838 – May 16, 1989 – Method and apparatus for the measurement of the size of particles entrained in a gas
4836086 – June 6, 1989 – Apparatus and method for the mixing and diffusion of warm and cold air for dissolving fog
4873928 – October 17, 1989 – Nuclear-sized explosions without radiation

5984239 – November 16, 1999 – Weather modification by artificial satellite
6025402 – February 15, 2000 – Chemical composition for effectuating a reduction of visibility obscuration, and a detoxifixation of fumes and chemical fogs in spaces of fire origin
6030506 – February 29, 2000 – Preparation of independently generated highly reactive chemical species
6034073 – March 7, 2000 – Solvent detergent emulsions having antiviral activity
6045089 – April 4, 2000 – Solar-powered airplane
6056203 – May 2, 2000 – Method and apparatus for modifying supercooled clouds
6110590 – August 29, 2000 – Synthetically spun silk nanofibers and a process for making the same
6263744 – July 24, 2001 – Automated mobility-classified-aerosol detector
6281972 – August 28, 2001 – Method and apparatus for measuring particle-size distribution
6315213 – November 13, 2001 – Method of modifying weather
6382526 – May 7, 2002 – Process and apparatus for the production of nanofibers
6408704 – June 25, 2002 – Aerodynamic particle size analysis method and apparatus
6412416 – July 2, 2002 – Propellant-based aerosol generation devices and method
and the list goes on...

It's a wonder we can even see the sun at all.

edit on 24-2-2013 by ArchaicDesigns because: (no reason given)

That's an awesome timeline, Would've taken some time to compile, Cheers

OK,
Just saying. Look at the pictures. Look at video, the patents these things are being sprayed whether people want to admit it or not I have seen it. Contrails do not work or look the same as chem trails or behave the same.

Now, are most contrails? I would say yes probably but I mean there's nothing conclusive to convince me nothing is going on at all because something is..

Why would they want patents for such things as was posted, all sorts of spraying and chemical patents lodged by the Air Force on behalf of the government.. Anyway, its all hearsay, I guess you need to either see it yourself or hear someone give the order like a movie. Its happening anyways, Spraying. Why??... I dunno.

Crazy stories of people getting sick, flu like symptoms and allegedly this wonderful disease which is link to GM foods and "chem trails" wiki/Morgellons

I didn't link any photos directly but check it out its quite horrible, nano machines , insect crawling sensations, odd fibrous material under the skin, strange lesions that don't heal could all of it be a coincidence or linked to this spraying as some have said?

Not sure

reply to post by ThePeaceMaker


If that time ever comes, and you post it on ATS I'm going to go say the same things you told me in this post.
My conclusion and position to this post is...inconclusive due to lack of evidence but there is definitely something going on.

reply to post by yoursteppingonmytoes


Sorry but patents are just words. They are a way to put a value of money on a product or idea. They do not have to prove that the said product or idea works, or was even built. In fact, most patents probably have not gotten past a prototype. So presenting patents like you do means nothing. Show that someone is making them, or better still is using them, then you can talk.
As to Morgellon's, sorry, but you are in the same boat here. The only people who insist Morgellons is real are the people that insist they have Morgellons. Not doctors, researchers, or anyone else. The things tested as "positive" for Morgellons are what the people brought in themselves, not something collected clean. There is no consensus as to the what, where, how, and why of this fake disease. It's a bunch of people who are so drawn into the internet as a sole source of information that they forget how to think for themselves. They would prefer to whine and pick at their scabs.
Morgellons has nothing to do with the OP anyway. And has been discussed here at ATS before.
Now to the topic at hand.......invisible planes spraying "chemtrails." Sorry, but unless you can see chemical composition in something miles away merely looking means nothing. Contrails all over the world since they were first produced by airplanes have all behaved the same way, bound as they are by the laws of physics. That you don't think so means you don't understand how the atmosphere works. Or airplanes.
Unless you can produce something that shows some chemical not expected in exhaust everything you see is a contrail. Or you can provide a decent picture or video that shows something that cannot possibly being a contrail with an explanation of why you feel that way. But expect questions and criticism. This is a forum after all.

reply to post by yoursteppingonmytoes

Contrails do not work or look the same as chem trails or behave the same.

And just how do you tell the difference from the ground?

Also how do these two trails behave?

Originally posted by tsurfer2000h
reply to post by yoursteppingonmytoes

 

Contrails do not work or look the same as chem trails or behave the same.

And just how do you tell the difference from the ground?

Also how do these two trails behave?

Take longer to evaporate, its quite obvious to me but yes once you see it you'll not mistake the two.

i saw something kind of like that except that it was more of a kite shape and it was a spot alot of aircraft do flybys

reply to post by yoursteppingonmytoes


Sorry, but persistence is not a clue to any chemical difference. It is why the contrails have been studied so extensively since they were first noticed....all the way back toward the end of the first World War.
A contrail is water, visible as ice crystals, hydrocarbons (as soot), and a very trace amount of metallic from wear on the engine. A cloud is water, visible as ice crystals or cloud droplets, hydrocarbon from the burning of anything on the planet, and various pollutants from whatever source (both natural and anthropogenic sources). Clouds can and do last for hours and drift for hundreds of miles. This cannot be refuted. That a cloud is capable of lasting that long means so can and will a contrail.
So your idea that you are somehow able to distinguish between a contrail and a (supposed) "chemtrail" is wrong.

reply to post by tsurfer2000h





Thats what the difference is.

reply to post by stars15k


This actually exactly contradicts some of the things you just typed.

www.uspto.gov...

Originally posted by AwakeinNM

Originally posted by amraks


Maybe government controlled op. Maybe extraterrestrial. How much does it cost to fuel a jet? 747 tank is 48,445 U.S. gallons times that by jet fuel $342.3 a gallon $165827.23. hmmm thats quite a bit of money to fill up a tank especially when you aren't carrying any passengers just to spray chemicals, not making any money.

Fake planes are craft that are cloaked with technology we couldn't even comprehend. So fuel system would possibly be a free source.

edit on 24-2-2013 by amraks because: (no reason given)

Uh, yeah. Jet-A is around $5 a gallon.

Look it up?

What is up with that math?

It wasn't the math that was the problem it was the fuel price.


$242225

reply to post by Vrillion


No it doesn't. I don't know what you are reading, but there is no place that says it must exist. In fact, it specifically says:

What can be patented – utility patents are provided for a new, nonobvious and useful:
Process
Machine
Article of manufacture
Composition of matter
Improvement of any of the above

And:

Invention must also be:
Novel
Nonobvious
Adequately described or enabled (for one of ordinary skill in the art to make and use the invention)
Claimed by the inventor in clear and definite terms

(bold mine)
It requires a description alone. Not production.
The actual patent is words and pictures on paper alone.

Also, there is no need to shout.

Originally posted by amraks

Originally posted by stars15k

Originally posted by Vrillion
reply to post by stars15k

 

These are just jets breaking the sound barrier.

Exactly. It is planes leaving a contrail behind a disc.
Which is what the pictures questioned show.
It is a logical, real-life answer.

haha oh god.

This whole idea that this plane is a hologram spraying real chemicals is just illogical. I guess it's possible, but just unlikely and illogical.

Originally posted by Vrillion
reply to post by ThePeaceMaker

 

If that time ever comes, and you post it on ATS I'm going to go say the same things you told me in this post.

My conclusion and position to this post is...inconclusive due to lack of evidence but there is definitely something going on.

Yes if the time comes ill be posting it here along with a snap shot with me and my new extraterrestrial friend but that would be my last post as I'd be begging the ET to get me off this rock. As for this thread I can agree that it could be something or it could be nothing. But after viewing the YouTubes users other videos my own conclusion is that he is delusional.

It reminding me of a guy who posts supposedly UFOs from the Orion nebular, these videos is what bought me to ATS a few years ago just YouTube search Orion UFOs. It's a guy filming planes at night claiming to be UFOs and having contact with them. I think if you click my name the thread might appear under my created threads list. Sorry not trying to change topic here

Again sorry to be off topic but this is the guy I'm talking about
m.youtube.com...

Click the guys name to view more of his vids

Originally posted by Vrillion
reply to post by InhaleExhale

 

Why do you keep asking me questions like a 3 year old kid is questioning their parents? I'm not an Alien I'm just sharing this information.

Because your "information" that you share is not really informing but confusing, so questions follow.

If you wish to share, then please do, stop being so defensive and answer some of our logical questions, I only asked 3 in that post because I am unsure who "it" is and the purpose or reason for some the things you propose, if you cant answer it indicates you haven't really thought any of through, which is why I asked that as well.

could it be the secret technologies are some kind of cloaking abilities melded with an anti-gravity and unknown propulsion systems?

reply to post by InhaleExhale


So you want me to answer questions I don't know anything about? Like why are would they be fake planes in the sky? How can you comprehend their technology? Your just killing the messenger.

Originally posted by Vrillion
reply to post by InhaleExhale

 

So you want me to answer questions I don't know anything about? Like why are would they be fake planes in the sky? How can you comprehend their technology? Your just killing the messenger.

Okay then, can you at least tell us who gave you the message?

Originally posted by Vrillion
reply to post by stars15k

 

This actually exactly contradicts some of the things you just typed.

www.uspto.gov...

No it doesn't. Nowhere does it say that the idea being patented must work, or be put into production!

there are people who say these planes are spraying aluminum oxide, which aparently is one of the things needed for a hologram projection.

I have also heard some of my friends who are theorists as well, refer to something called project "blueray" which is supposedly something involving the projection and or "false flag" of an alien takeover or an alien ship "contact" i have not seen the source of their info, so i cannot prove or disprove it, but the way they explained it it kind of made sense.
[semi un-related]

Others say theyre spraying viruses/diseases others say weather control crap. the only way to know for sure is to collect samples.

i have felt droplets land on my arms before with no clouds in the sky, just chemtrails from planes, no trees around no birds, at first i thought i got crapped on by a bird. but it was just clear liquid and i have no idea where it came from because it was'nt rain either. anyone else ever have that happen?