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Originally posted by Tardacus
The country grew and prospered before we ever had most of these government programs so i see no reason why the country would fall apart if we cut back on some of these government programs.
Originally posted by ownbestenemy
Originally posted by iwan2ski
However, it doesn't justify Obama giving Biden and Congress a pay increase. I say lead by example!
Pretty much agreed until this point. Obama has no say whatsoever in Congressional pay. His authority in pay only resides withing legislative bills that sit on his desk and executive level departments under the authority of the Executive branch.
I do ask though, where do you think such authority lies?
Obama Orders Pay Raise for Biden, Members of Congress, Federal Workers
President Barack Obama issued an executive order to end the pay freeze on federal employees, in effect giving some federal workers a raise. One federal worker now to receive a pay increase is Vice President Joe Biden.
According to disclosure forms, Biden made a cool $225,521 last year. After the pay increase, he'll now make $231,900 per year.
Members of Congress, from the House and Senate, also will receive a little bump, as their annual salary will go from $174,000 to 174,900. Leadership in Congress, including the speaker of the House, will likewise get an increase.
Originally posted by Jeremiah65
Those of you who are older, think back 20 or 30 years...the Gov now takes in more money, spends more than it takes in and does a crappier job of taking care of their responsibilities...anyone else wonder why that is?
Originally posted by iwan2ski
Well unless I was being misled by what MSM is stating for weeks now (don't answer that..lol):
Originally posted by Feltrick
I believe that the heyday of GS jobs is coming to an end. The military will have to go back to doing those jobs themselves which means more overtime for them...unpaid overtime as they are salaried. I'm not saying all GS jobs will go away, but I bet GS7 command secretaries could be on the chopping block in the future, along with other low level positions.
Sooner or later everyone will realize that we have a major spending problem.
Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by ownbestenemy
Sooner or later everyone will realize that we have a major spending problem.
One would think but they no longer call it spending- they call it "investing"!
And the current crowd in Washington says we need to do more of it.
We are doomed.
reply to post by iwan2ski
I truly fear for you if you have to tell your daughters they are losing their cell phones.
People will write songs about your bravery!
Originally posted by Feltrick
reply to post by ownbestenemy
That's what I said, unpaid overtime! I never said they'd be paid for it, just working more hours! Where did you read that I said the military gets paid overtime?
Anyway, yes, the military can easily take over those jobs but it comes at a price. Right now the government has created a monster of a jobs program and if they cut those jobs, then more will be on unemployment. But, if they furlough those employees and use the military members to pick up the slack (i.e. every friday they'll use a YN to cover the desk of the Command Secretary), then the jobless rate doesn't go up...win/win...for some.
Originally posted by Feltrick
reply to post by ownbestenemy
That's what I said, unpaid overtime! I never said they'd be paid for it, just working more hours! Where did you read that I said the military gets paid overtime?
Anyway, yes, the military can easily take over those jobs but it comes at a price. Right now the government has created a monster of a jobs program and if they cut those jobs, then more will be on unemployment. But, if they furlough those employees and use the military members to pick up the slack (i.e. every friday they'll use a YN to cover the desk of the Command Secretary), then the jobless rate doesn't go up...win/win...for some.
Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by ownbestenemy
Sooner or later everyone will realize that we have a major spending problem.
One would think but they no longer call it spending- they call it "investing"!
And the current crowd in Washington says we need to do more of it.
We are doomed.
Originally posted by Hopechest
I don't have really anything to say against this thread other than the fact that you used the CBO for a part of your analysis.
That would be fine if they've never been wrong but they are not the most reliable source when it comes to predicting what will happen in the future.
To base any estimate off their predictions is sketchy at best.
OMB shall transmit a report to the House of Representatives and to the Senate containing the CBO estimate of that legislation, an OMB estimate of the amount of discretionary new budget authority and outlays for the current year, if any, and the budget year provided by that legislation, and an explanation of any difference between the estimates.