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CIA and Mossad behind the beheadings in Iraq?

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posted on Oct, 31 2004 @ 02:48 AM
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I came across this today, could this really be happening CIA and Mossad behind the beheadings in Iraq, IMHO I think maybe some of the beheadings but not all of them.



secret american (CIA/Mossad) 'terror squads'

The Netherlands - 23 Oct. 2004 - In Berkely, last October 8th, Pullitzer Prize-winning american journalist and writer, Seymour Hersh*, spilled the secrets of the US-Iraq quagmire, and the so called 'War on Terror'. Which according to Seymour Hersh, is a 'US-War OF Terror'.

Hersh was quite clear in what he said: according to him 'the Iraq war is not winnable'. One of the reasons he mentioned, was the existence of secret american (CIA/Mossad) 'terror squads', of which he pointed out one which he said 'has been 'disappearing' people since December 2001'*

In Hersh opinion, the warmongering managers and the ill-informed people of the United States, 'have absolutely no idea about how irreparably its torture of Iraqis at Abu Ghraib prison has damaged its image in the Middle East'.

And obvious is too, while checking Arab and other non-US mainstream news sources, that many people believe that a lot of the kidnappings and beheadings are done by those special US- and other terror squads.more



Schiphol Airport: the Dutch-American-Israeli & Contraband 'Warport'

The 'Dutch National airport Schiphol', strategically situated close to Amsterdam, has been a vast turntable for mostly illegal American and Israeli contrabande for decades.

And is - according to what Dutch Attorney General Vrakking said Jan. 29, 1999: "that the El Al security detachment at Schiphol is a branch of the Mossad".*

It is not difficult to conclude that all armed personel - including the Dutch - in Iraq, and with or without a licence to kill, kidnapp and behead, are warcriminals, according to all international law and Warfare Conventions.

In a court case - ending in a politically motivated disgracefull verdict of 'not guilty', a dutch marine, Erik O, had to spill some of the beans, and via his counsel let it be known that he was one of those members of the secret squads with 'a licence to kill'.

Some journalists woke up, but in the Netherlands this news disappeared as fast as is possible in the giant 'memory hole', in concerted action and after an initial news burst. Later on it was hardly ever mentioned again in the government- and mainstream media. But it still can be read in the onlin news service of 'Expatica', one of the 'expat' websites for people living abroad*.

Source: www.axisoflogic.com...




Seymour Hersh

The Death Squad Protection Act

Secret Task Force 121




posted on Oct, 31 2004 @ 02:54 AM
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I've been to the Schiphol airport in the Netherlands many of times and it has probably the most relaxed customs/immigration I've ever seen. There has been times where I would just walk through the immigration entrance to the country without even being looked out, let alone a stamp on my passport.

Actually, the first time I went to Schiphol, I was shocked by how easy it was. I managed to enter/exit the country a total number of 4 times before my passport was even stamped.

Based on my previous experiences, I can see how drugs can be slipped right under customs' eyes.

[edit on 10/31/2004 by Simulacra]



posted on Oct, 31 2004 @ 03:18 AM
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I thought the Nicklas Burg beheading contraversy where in a shoulder patch from a US uniforms left shoulder was seen in the lower right hand of the cameras frame of view proved that the US was present there then. I thought he was the first of many taped when beheaded.

[edit on 31/10/2004 by drbryankkruta]



posted on Oct, 31 2004 @ 07:39 PM
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Originally posted by drbryankkruta
I thought the Nicklas Burg beheading contraversy where in a shoulder patch from a US uniforms left shoulder was seen in the lower right hand of the cameras frame of view proved that the US was present there then. I thought he was the first of many taped when beheaded.

[edit on 31/10/2004 by drbryankkruta]




This texte was written on 28/05/04 by Alchy, you will excuse my english,

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Who ask himself the question why, Nick, was in American’s jails a few days before he died and for witch obscure reason did he become a “terrorist-prisoner” of Americans? Nothing is clear in his arrest by Iraqi police. The chef of the police in Iraq is the same for Iraqis and Americans their!

Why was he slackened (got free) by the army without reason, process or excuse, as he was said lost?

Why did the terrorists have strangely chosen internet to show it, when it doesn’t allow to verify any faking? Where is the tape?

Why is he set on a chair which “very exactly same” model was photographed at Abu-Ghraib prison?

Why do the yellow wall, the floor, his prisoner-clothes look all the same in Abu-Ghraib prison?

Why do we hear american’s spokes in back-sounds with English and Russian accents?

Why the terrorists do looks tall, fat, and white (hands), (someone called them the Stoogies) and wouldn’t have Arabic accent?

Why do a zoom cut the scene where he is projected on the floor, then menaced with a cut (4 or 5 frame only) posed on his neck (yes, only!), his hair pulled –zoom- and the barbarity begins?

Why doesn’t he struggle while yelling, once the sound is harmonised with the video (he moves a little because he is moved by the man in his back)?

Why do some doctors say blood doesn’t flow like that when a jugular is cut on a living man?

Why do CNN specialists of Zarkaoui say it is not his voice, not his leg prosthesis (no prosthesis at all), not his method, not his way of thinking, but CIA say so?

Why do the chef affirm he is Zarkaoui and tell it without any problem in front of polices of the world, but is completely masked?

Why does he read his letter with no real conviction, passion or anger and the terrorists cries of believers to God (halla huakbah) seem more like tired but obedient foot ball supporter’s cry?

Why do, since the body was found, nobody made autopsy?

The face of Nick is over contrasted, saturated, coloured. I first thought it was a montage (I've never believe in that movie) but I think only the colour of his face was change, so that, his face looks pinkie-orange and the skin of the terrorists, white-grey. The light on his face is not natural in order to show a difference between his skin and the bad ones.

An other strange thing is that the CIA or Pentagon hasn’t work on that video and dont comment it anymore and have stop to speak about even to know more about anything you want. It remains me the recent rocketing on Palestinian demonstrators that have definitely stoped all manifestation, demonstration in Palestinia against the final solution practiced on Palestinians for 60 years ago.

What the terrorist (who would be Zarkaoui) says is too much a dialog of Satanists, of antichrist. It’s not normal for people who claim they act for Muslims and Arabs. Some ideas in the text the chef read are really not Muslim’s ones but Satanist ones that a Muslim don’t care! Why do that text glorifie America so much and discredit Islam fanatics so well?

What is that ring on a terrorist’s finger, isn’t it forbidden to wear jewels or expensive things for a fanatic Muslim.

montage? :
-13 :45 :59 During that second exactly, he is pulled back by the man who hold his harms, and the one who hold his legs, hold his legs under his knees wich are maintained on the floor in order not to move. This give an impression of a “pelvis-move”. Some pictures are missing in that second and have been put forward to give an impression of a natural quick “pelvis move” of struggle. Look at the number 9 in the hour. It also have a change I don’t know why.
-14:46:00 We can hear in a non American accent : “Ok!”. Because the shot was good and the scene could continue.

The theory is that it was made to make the world vomit and vomit again cursing Iraqis for their anti-Christianity (antichrist symbol) and barbary. The text is suspect, too sharpened to be free (frank), too demonstrative of insanity, of antichristy, of greatness of Freedom and America, but not passionate) Nick Berg knew something that gave him the first part he didn’t suspect, as he was asked to take part to that “show” to get free. It is his head witch is taken off and exhibited, but on his dead body. He was filmed on his own free in front false-terrorists, if it’s not a montage, witch change nothing. We see the cut cutting him for the first time after the zoom (4:39 to 4:43). Look well, it’s the first real cutting of his throat, not before at all! At 4:43, he is in another position, dead, yelling, moving only because of the man behind him and his head is cut off. The army needed an “exemplary”, “confident”, victim, juste after the Abu Ghraib abuses!! There are still some 40 persons who have disappeared like him in Iraq at that day.
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posted on Oct, 31 2004 @ 07:47 PM
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Originally posted by Simulacra
Actually, the first time I went to Schiphol, I was shocked by how easy it was. I managed to enter/exit the country a total number of 4 times before my passport was even stamped.


- Er, hang on, if you are a citizen/subject from an EU member state they don't stamp your passport now.....and won't even if asked these days.

.....and you're from Wales, UK? That's internal EU 'traffic'.

The old external EU border controls between member states have gone; they do all their checks internally now and on those coming from outside of the EU.



posted on Oct, 31 2004 @ 07:55 PM
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Schengen = Free, "uncontrolled" travel between EU- and EEC-countries. The last time I was in a passportcontrol was about 8-10 years ago, before Schengen. However, I still believe that Schiphol is quite "slack". The only problems appear if you are travelling FROM Amsterdam. THen you will almost guaranteed get stopped due to Hollands liberal cannabispolicy



posted on Oct, 31 2004 @ 08:03 PM
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Originally posted by phlake
The only problems appear if you are travelling FROM Amsterdam. THen you will almost guaranteed get stopped due to Hollands liberal cannabispolicy


- Naa not even then.

I went on a week's 'fact finding' tour of Amsterdam several years ago and decided to be a good guy and not push my luck thinking that there was bound to be checks coming back into the UK at Harwich from the ferry and I was worried that I might get caught doing something (then) very illegal. (the UK is a bit more relaxed about smoke now....but now I've stopped smoking.
)

Imagine my deep disappointment at seeing not a soul in the customs area as I walked through! I was shocked and saddened!


This was in the mid 1990's.

[edit on 31-10-2004 by sminkeypinkey]



posted on Oct, 31 2004 @ 08:05 PM
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This thread has all the earmarks of anti-American propaganda and disinformation, and is simply not credible. And its typical of such smearing not to have any real proof, but just to quote another "report" which in turn has no real evidence to offer. Enough of such reports - the mongers of which keep drinking each others' bath water - and soon a mountain of "proof" is built up. Frankly, I think its just ridiculous to think that US or Israeli special forces would indulge in such activities. They've got better things to do.



posted on Oct, 31 2004 @ 08:05 PM
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See alchy you see it to it seems way out there doesnt it, you see it.

It was a little to convienent that the man was captured with very little effort to be recovered being noted as in the new executions.

What about that patch and the fact the first prisioner ever just so happened to have an orange jump suit, the chair he sat in at one point was one that was the same as in ABU Garib prison.


Its so obvious , sadly it set a trend and now the real terrorists are doing
the same thing, the fear in the first two proves the differnce in the killers.
the victims of the real terrorists have a true pleading fashion where as I noticed the ones thought to be killed by Americans seemed to have a sorta prompted scripted effect, and their demeanor was calmer like they thought it was a ploy they were put up to taking part in.....

Its obvious that is so differnt isnt it. And is it me but do the first few seem to be drugged or something their reactions where to slow except in Burg
where in he flopped down as if unconcious dead.....Are the American killer trying to humainly kill there victims but offering them pain killers or fast acting anesthesia as seen in the slower blood flow.

This is so off the wall obvious the US started this it makes me sick.

I have watched almost all of the killings in hopes of verifying the signs of humanity I have suspected where in drugs where used and I see the possibilties. what to you think



posted on Oct, 31 2004 @ 10:12 PM
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Originally posted by sminkeypinkey
- Er, hang on, if you are a citizen/subject from an EU member state they don't stamp your passport now.....and won't even if asked these days.


I'm an american living in Wales temporarily for school.



posted on Nov, 1 2004 @ 12:00 AM
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Originally posted by Simulacra

Originally posted by sminkeypinkey
- Er, hang on, if you are a citizen/subject from an EU member state they don't stamp your passport now.....and won't even if asked these days.


I'm an american living in Wales temporarily for school.



Im sorry I was away why dont they stamp Passports.



posted on Nov, 1 2004 @ 12:28 AM
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One of the terrorist that was involved in the beheading video of Nick Berg was wearin a gold ring as well, if you know anything about fundamental Islamists, they aren't much on wearing gold rings...



posted on Nov, 1 2004 @ 12:28 AM
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click click...lol oops
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[edit on 1-11-2004 by twitchy]



posted on Nov, 1 2004 @ 11:13 AM
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Originally posted by drbryankkruta

Im sorry I was away why dont they stamp Passports.


- It's to do with the Schengen agreement and free unrestricted travel by EU members within EU borders.

I'm surprised an American wasn't asked though......I hope you walked through the correct channel!



posted on Nov, 1 2004 @ 03:44 PM
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One thing that was quite odd about the Nick Berg video was that the CIA identified one of the masked men in the video as Abu al zarqarwi, from his voice.
How could the CIA have possibly made a positive identification?

To me this indicates they were deliberately messing with the truth.
Why?



posted on Nov, 2 2004 @ 08:31 AM
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Russian Muslims also have fetish for beheadings, so i don;t think mossad or the cia are behind this. Plus Islam also supports beheadings.



posted on Nov, 2 2004 @ 09:00 AM
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One of the terrorist that was involved in the beheading video of Nick Berg was wearin a gold ring as well, if you know anything about fundamental Islamists, they aren't much on wearing gold rings...


Ahhh, but klilling people is OK., just no gold rings. The US patch could be a trophy.

The CIA is not killing our men. Are the men that were killed CIA operatives, that is a better question and a more valid theory I would guess.. Daniel Pearl seemed to have a sweet type cover job. Do we believe all the contractors over there are really construction workers?

AS far as the voice recognitioon, I know personally the DEA and the FBI have the ability to voice print, so why could hte tape not have had the same thing done. Each person speaks in a certain frequency, you just have to match word phrases.



posted on Nov, 2 2004 @ 06:12 PM
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Originally posted by drbryankkruta
See alchy you see it to it seems way out there doesnt it, you see it.

It was a little to convienent that the man was captured with very little effort to be recovered being noted as in the new executions.

What about that patch and the fact the first prisioner ever just so happened to have an orange jump suit, the chair he sat in at one point was one that was the same as in ABU Garib prison.


Its so obvious , sadly it set a trend and now the real terrorists are doing
the same thing, the fear in the first two proves the differnce in the killers.
the victims of the real terrorists have a true pleading fashion where as I noticed the ones thought to be killed by Americans seemed to have a sorta prompted scripted effect, and their demeanor was calmer like they thought it was a ploy they were put up to taking part in.....

Its obvious that is so differnt isnt it. And is it me but do the first few seem to be drugged or something their reactions where to slow except in Burg
where in he flopped down as if unconcious dead.....Are the American killer trying to humainly kill there victims but offering them pain killers or fast acting anesthesia as seen in the slower blood flow.

This is so off the wall obvious the US started this it makes me sick.

I have watched almost all of the killings in hopes of verifying the signs of humanity I have suspected where in drugs where used and I see the possibilties. what to you think


A man (on the net) made an analysis of that video and said that Berg might have been filmed dead and sitten in front of the terrorits, and then movements have been created frame by frame.

For the drugs, of course, it is possible.

At the beginning of the video, Nick Berg present himslef and seems familiar with those who ask him. It is just like if he was in a police station and thought he was the wrong accused guy but have to tell his name and present himself. The beginning of the video is a police inquiery, the same that will be discovered to have realy and officialy happen.

This video of the death of Nick Berg is too inteligent and well oriented. It is made to touch the whole world as a devil, a very well known devil using apocalyptic symbols, that must be fought. The terrorists talks about nothing inteligent for them, do nothing inteligent for them.

They only want a big war and nothing to say.

The most ridiculous was the Kidnapping of the 2 french journlists (Chesnot and Malbrunot) who were talking about the bad things made to Islam with this war, and they were kidnapped by islamists... When they were to get free, we learned that they were kidnapped by Allaoui mercenaries, were gotten free by the resistance and were now trying to get out of Iraq without beeing Kill by bombs that follow them... The resistance seems to ask France to tell the truth about that and hide the journalists who film the war.

[edit on 2/11/2004 by Alchy]




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