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The federal government is supposed to be limited to the enumerated powers granted it in the US Constitution
This clause to me means that there is a litmus test to any legislative action
Originally posted by skepticconwatcher
reply to post by lynxpilot
Okay, so you want the government to stay out of your states education but you complain that the government isn't going to give you any money for state education ?
Originally posted by Hopechest
reply to post by lynxpilot
Just a couple of issues here with your post that I found and feel free to correct me if you disagree.
The federal government is supposed to be limited to the enumerated powers granted it in the US Constitution
This is not entirely true. The Supreme Court has established the idea of "implied powers" to the federal government also. This means that even though they may not be spelled out in the Constitution, if it helps them achieve their enumerated powers then it is acceptable.
This clause to me means that there is a litmus test to any legislative action
This is a common problem within the Constitution; there are many clauses that mean different things to different people. What you read one way, someone else will read another.
The particular clause you mentioned is problematic because of the term "general welfare". The courts have given the federal government an extreme amount of wiggle room in regards to these two words.
Originally posted by lynxpilot
Originally posted by Hopechest
reply to post by lynxpilot
Just a couple of issues here with your post that I found and feel free to correct me if you disagree.
The federal government is supposed to be limited to the enumerated powers granted it in the US Constitution
This is not entirely true. The Supreme Court has established the idea of "implied powers" to the federal government also. This means that even though they may not be spelled out in the Constitution, if it helps them achieve their enumerated powers then it is acceptable.
This clause to me means that there is a litmus test to any legislative action
This is a common problem within the Constitution; there are many clauses that mean different things to different people. What you read one way, someone else will read another.
The particular clause you mentioned is problematic because of the term "general welfare". The courts have given the federal government an extreme amount of wiggle room in regards to these two words.
Implied powers must have a direct link to the enumerated power which they support.
Originally posted by skepticconwatcher
reply to post by lynxpilot
Okay, so you want the government to stay out of your states education but you complain that the government isn't going to give you any money for state education ?
Originally posted by Hopechest
This is not entirely true. The Supreme Court has established the idea of "implied powers" to the federal government also. This means that even though they may not be spelled out in the Constitution, if it helps them achieve their enumerated powers then it is acceptable.