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And you lie again, even the wiki on speciation clearly states that they start out with a group of species that are seperated and causes speciation. But I guess you missed that.
Once again we have to tell the person that admits to posting lies that species evolve, not individuals.
The post where tooth admits to posting lies.
Exactly, then why would you act like I was
Ya and I'm the first to fall for it right, I mean after all I'm even the person that coined the term cabbit.
That is a lie. You are not the one that coined that term.
Dont be such a gidget, if that were true we woudln't have sub species. I obviously know more about evolution than you do.
A doctor doesn't ever tell a patient that evolution has caused relationship isolation with them because IT CANT.
Evolution happens to species, not individuals.
You rely on lies. You admit to telling lies. You in essence admit to posting hoaxes at ATS.
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Your understanding doesn't allow evolution to evolve and leave remaining species to exist. In other words, if humans were the last thing to have evolved, we would be the ONLY species in existence by your understanding.
So now whats your excuse why Allopatric speciation doesn't apply to humans
It does apply to the human species, not human individuals.
Your understanding does NOTHING for the explanation of diversity.
There is nothing false about the statement, NO doctor has ever made the claim that allopatric speciation is the reason why they can't produce offspring.
That's because these issues apply to species not individuals.
With your claims there NEVER could have been a common ancestor between us and apes, and they all would have speciated to become humans. Only problem is we have both apes and humans present today.
Allopatric speciation is dead, or it at least died when it comes to humans. There is simply to much proof that says its false.
This opinion of yours is based on an argument from personal ignorance. You do not understand the issue and have demonstrated that quite well. On the other hand it could be that this is just another case in which you are purposely posting falsehoods. You've admitted to doing that in this very thread.
Individuals can speciate, what do you think causes the speciation to begin with...
Individuals do not "speciate."
You argument is wrong as it is based on an argument from personal ignorance. It is also possible that you have purposely misrepresented the situation as you have claimed to have done before.
All you have shown so far is that your argument has nothing at all to do with allopatric speciation.
There are four geographic modes of speciation in nature, based on the extent to which speciating populations are isolated from one another: allopatric, peripatric, parapatric, and sympatric. Speciation may also be induced artificially, through animal husbandry, agriculture, or laboratory experiments. Observed examples of each kind of speciation are provided throughout
And you lie, you never once addressed them.
And you avoided the same question for 3 times now because you don't have an honest answer.
Nope. I answered your question 4 times but you don’t understand the answer obviously. I will give it to you again
I suggest you learn its meaning or give up using it.
aside from you saying that I'm wrong, let me know when you have some proof.
And for the 4th time now you have managed to deflect my question and pose the problem back on me. My understanding is not the problem here, the false claims made about Allopatric speciation are.
And that false claim is yours because you have no idea what you are talking about.
As for me telling you where you are wrong. Been there, done that, you are just as ignorant. I suggest you learn its meaning or give up using it.
Your not an honest guy, all you do is reflect the question.
Now are you going to be serious and address that, or are you going to chicken out again and deflect the question?
I am serious. I suggest you learn its meaning or give up using it.
Your the only guy on here that is firm that I'm wrong when all I'm doing is quoting a wiki page.
According to Allopatric speciation a rule is made that if a species stops producing offspring, its because it has changed enough that its now a different species.
You have no idea do you? I've changed my answer to better suit your level of understanding. I suggest you give up using it.
In other words, I stand uncorrected.
I'm proving that false as we have non matching species, the horse and the donkey that are able to produce offspring.
Also been there, done that and you don’t understand it. Your ignorance is not my responsibility, it is yours and yours to correct.
I wasn't the one that brought it up. If you don't like the answer, don't ask the question.
The very fact you do not understand I have given you my answer already showcases you have no idea what you are talking about and have not got the knowledge to allow you to understand what others are telling you.
Again Your ignorance is not my responsibility, it is yours and yours to correct.
Now you answer something. What has any of this to do with the OP 'A blow to evolution - Gene Regulation' you are supposed to post on topic you know.
There is no proof in evolution. As I have proven many times, and most recently in the quote about speciation. Using words like "it appears" is just another way of them indicating they are unsure. It would be nice if this theory was based on facts rather than speculation.
Of course there is proof. There's so much proof that it's an undeniable fact. You really need not look further than genes. If you want something more concrete look at ring species. Only reality refusalists and brain washed fundies deny facts such as these. Which one are you
Like I told you already. You do not have the education to understand you have had your question answered.
And you lie, you never once addressed them.
I have. You have shown in your use of Allopatric speciation that you have no idea it means and again you do not have the education to understand the answer.
aside from you saying that I'm wrong, let me know when you have some proof.
You are not a very educated guy as I have answered you but you fail to understand the answer
Your not an honest guy, all you do is reflect the question.
You certainly are NOT quoting the wiki on Allopatric Speciation . As usual you are quoting some weird tooth version of what you think you read. Like I said already, your ignorance is not my responsibility. It is for you to address.
Your the only guy on here that is firm that I'm wrong when all I'm doing is quoting a wiki page.
Nope. The correct description is: You remain purposely ignorant.
In other words, I stand uncorrected.
Quite. Remember that when reading the answers you receive instead of calling me a liar.
I wasn't the one that brought it up. If you don't like the answer, don't ask the question.
Which of course is easily proved false by looking at your posts in this thread. None of which have been on topic. This Post
Now you answer something. What has any of this to do with the OP 'A blow to evolution - Gene Regulation' you are supposed to post on topic you know.
I wasn't the one that brought it up. If you don't like the answer, don't ask the question.
This post
What a crock, are you trying to say there isn't a generation between us and apes?
And now we move onto the opening posts you always use to kill a thread on this subject This Post
Your use of the word somehow is what shocks me. I'm suprissed your not instantly claiming that evolution did it.
This Post
Just like the wiki on the 10% brain myth, they are sure that its only a myth but turn around and claim that we know very little about the brain.
And here we have This Post from you showing without doubt you are the only liar here
I understand that evolution rests on a belief that would be less probable than a 747 reconstructing itself in a hurricane, that doesn't mean its possible in my eyes.
and so it has gone on. Off topic post after off topic post. Your same drivel that has been shown incorrect many times yet you claim as usual you have never been shown to be wrong.
It has to do with allopathic speciation.
Well thats just an easy way to pass the buck because you know that your wrong.
nd you lie, you never once addressed them.
Like I told you already. You do not have the education to understand you have had your question answered.
You do not understand the term you are using. It is that simple but as usual you dont try to learn and you tell me I am a liar. Again your ignorance is not my problem it is yours and it appears you are determined to remain so.
I understand Allopatric speciation just fine, its just your lame excuse because you know that your wrong and don't want to admitt it.
aside from you saying that I'm wrong, let me know when you have some proof.
I have. You have shown in your use of Allopatric speciation that you have no idea it means and again you do not have the education to understand the answer.
You don't have to be very educated to understand allopatric speciation, its pretty simple really.
Your not an honest guy, all you do is reflect the question.
You are not a very educated guy as I have answered you but you fail to understand the answer
Your correct, it wasn't a quote in the begining, I was actually copying and pasting.
Your the only guy on here that is firm that I'm wrong when all I'm doing is quoting a wiki page.
You certainly are NOT quoting the wiki on Allopatric Speciation . As usual you are quoting some weird tooth version of what you think you read. Like I said already, your ignorance is not my responsibility. It is for you to address.
So again I stand uncorrected.
In other words, I stand uncorrected.
Nope. The correct description is: You remain purposely ignorant.
I wasn't the one that chose the subject, sorry I was just answering to questions that were fired at me.
I wasn't the one that brought it up. If you don't like the answer, don't ask the question.
Quite. Remember that when reading the answers you receive instead of calling me a liar.
That would seem to be inline with what Lloyd Pye claims. At least that humans are GMO's.
Considering us humans now have reached a time where we know how to manipulate Genes, it's not hard to surmise that sometime in the past, there was an advanced civilization that arrived here, and manipulated the Chimp DNA to create Humans.
They'll never find the missing link cause there isn't one. We are genetic modifications by an advanced civilization.
My ignorance is nothing more than a fabrication on your part, to give you something to hide behind.
I understand Allopatric speciation just fine, its just your lame excuse because you know that your wrong and don't want to admitt it.
Nope you really don’t. You denying your ignorance wont change that.
I understand it perfectly fine, thats just your way of coming to terms of knowing that you have been proven wrong.
You don't have to be very educated to understand allopatric speciation, its pretty simple really.
And yet too complex for you to understand. Now that is just sad.
I know what quoting is, I also know what "natural" is, and you clearly refuse to accept the definition layed out by google.
Your correct, it wasn't a quote in the begining, I was actually copying and pasting.
You don’t understand what quoting is either Classic
So again I stand uncorrected.
So again I stand uncorrected.
Nope you remain ignorant
A link to an entire page on a thread doesn't tell me what section your referring to, and the problem with you is that it could be anything not even related.
I wasn't the one that chose the subject, sorry I was just answering to questions that were fired at me.
I already showed that to be a lie.
You mean like the time that you tred to claim that a house sparrow is following people, when he's actually having the relationship with the house and not the person? Please if anyone needs to own up to lies, you would be at the front of the line for lying and trying to move goal posts.
Never expected you to own up to your lies as you never do. Everyone else can see you for what you are though.
Originally posted by Astyanax
I suppose you are older than eight or nine years?
Originally posted by itsthetooth
I wouldn't know...
Another perfect example of people changing the truth, just to suit their fantasy. That isn't what I said and you know it. I love how you edited it to suit your fantasy. At least I don't have to live in a fantasy.
All right, then. I shan't trouble you further.
And you lie again, even the wiki on speciation clearly states that they start out with a group of species that are seperated and causes speciation. But I guess you missed that.
Exactly, then why would you act like I was
Dont be such a gidget, if that were true we woudln't have sub species. I obviously know more about evolution than you do.
Your understanding doesn't allow evolution to evolve and leave remaining species to exist. In other words, if humans were the last thing to have evolved, we would be the ONLY species in existence by your understanding.
Your understanding does NOTHING for the explanation of diversity.
With your claims there NEVER could have been a common ancestor between us and apes, and they all would have speciated to become humans. Only problem is we have both apes and humans present today.
Individuals can speciate, what do you think causes the speciation to begin with...
So as you can see, you are WRONG. The individuals of a populas become seperated from the original group and change.
I'm not understanding why this is such a hard thing for you to understand. This of course would leave behind the original species and create a new species.
And you lie, you never once addressed them.
aside from you saying that I'm wrong, let me know when you have some proof.
Your the only guy on here that is firm that I'm wrong when all I'm doing is quoting a wiki page.
In other words, I stand uncorrected.
I have never posted that I stated lies. Your just reading into things that aren't there which if very common amongst evolutionists.
Do you ever plan to post on topic?
Originally posted by itsthetooth
reply to post by colin42
You mean like the time that you tred to claim that a house sparrow is following people, when he's actually having the relationship with the house and not the person? Please if anyone needs to own up to lies, you would be at the front of the line for lying and trying to move goal posts.
Never expected you to own up to your lies as you never do. Everyone else can see you for what you are though.