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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by LanceCorvette
I'm an actual real-life yoga teacher, and I've taught yoga to small school kids in Chicago. I can attest that there is nothing religious about your basic yoga practice.
I think as a yoga teacher you should know better. Yes you can teach yoga postures without going into obvious religious preaching. Clearly yoga postures don't teach the Vedic scriptures, but you know full well the spiritual nature of yoga regardless.
To say what you are saying means to undermine even your own reason for doing yoga, unless you are not authentic and believe only in the physical exercise of it.
Incidentally, the Examiner had an article showing that the class did indeed include yoga mats with the tai chi symbol on them, which is not even from the Hindu system, but nevertheless they thought to insert Chinese philosophical symbolism thinking no one would be the wiser.
I personally am fine with implementations of yoga, but again it is the motive I find disingenuous. Again, the seculars are not concerned with anything but eliminating Christianity, as they are perfectly happy with yoga, meditation, or any pagan religious curriculum.edit on 25-2-2013 by ThirdEyeofHorus because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus
Sustainable development is a good thing, a needed thing and I don't even like the UN. The UN doesn't own that concept, it's just plain smart... it's how we did things before industrialization. I don't appreciate that you've injected your agenda paranoia here.
The issue is a non-religious, non-spiritual, non-cultural even yoga class being offered to children and some zealot parent's having a freak out over it.
There is no form in yoga that is not found in countless other cultural exercises
Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus
No the UN is not responsible for every thing I know about anything, I'll thank you not to patronize me or anyone else with your assumptions that we've fallen prey to propaganda. Our personality and ideological types and philosophies have existed as long as humanity has existed so unless the UN can time travel it has nothing to do with how or what I think, anymore than secularism is a religion... the real issue here is that 'it's not Christian therefor it's evil'. Same old BS that shot yourselves in the foot to begin with.
it's how we did things before industrialization
Sustainable development (SD) refers to a mode of human development in which resource use aims to meet human needs while preserving the environment so that these needs can be met not only in the present, but also for generations to come. The term 'sustainable development' was used by the Brundtland Commission which coined what has become the most often-quoted definition of sustainable development: "development that meets the needs of the present without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their own needs.".[1][2]
Sustainable development ties together concern for the carrying capacity of natural systems with the social challenges faced by humanity. As early as the 1970s, "sustainability" was employed to describe an economy "in equilibrium with basic ecological support systems."[3] Ecologists have pointed to The Limits to Growth,[4] and presented the alternative of a "steady state economy"[5] in order to address environmental concerns.
In 1987, the United Nations released the Brundtland Report, which included what is now one of the most widely recognised definitions: "Sustainable development is development that meets the needs of the present without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their own needs." [7]
According to the same report, the above definition contains within it two key concepts:
the concept of 'needs', in particular the essential needs of the world's poor, to which overriding priority should be given; and
the idea of limitations imposed by the state of technology and social organization on the environment's ability to meet present and future needs.[7]
Originally posted by peck420
FYI to everybody:
There is no form in yoga that is not found in countless other cultural exercises. Not one. The human body can only move in a fixed number of ways. As to where the movements originated from, best guess is long before written languages.
Opinion:
That being said, if they wish to follow their own rules of secularism, they do need to change the name, as the name yoga doesn't actually apply to the motion of the body, but to the spiritual connotations of the religion.
So, here is a novel idea...call it Physical Education, let them move, stretch, and pose as they see fit, and call it a day.
Our yoga teacher, Erin Cooney arrived at LCH. She has been observing teachers, getting to know our school community, designing her classroom space, and helping to develop curriculum to teach health and wellness through yoga. She has also been helping to collect data for the study. Parents wanting to opt their children out of the study should complete the parent survey that can be accessed under the For Parents section of the EUSD webpage at www.eusd.net. You can also view the student survey (for grades 3-6) under the For Students/Student Web Resources section of the EUSD webpage.
The initial research is a control group study, which takes place during the first ten weeks of the program. The universities will continue to examine data over time for a period of 3 years. Schedules and offerings at sites following the control group study will vary.
EUSD is interested in how some of the students’ attitudes about school may change as a result of the new curriculum. Since this involves asking both parents and their children a short series of questions – which many of you have already completed – I wanted to first thank you for helping us in ultimately understanding the ways in which our new curriculum may increase the health and wellness of our students. If you have not yet completed the parent survey, it can be accessed under the For Parents section of the EUSD webpage at www.eusd.net. You can also view the student survey (for grades 3-6) under the For Students/Student Web Resources section of the EUSD webpage.
The study will begin gathering data within the next few weeks which will include taking measurements related to students’ height, weight and resting heart rates. Resting heart rates will be tracked weekly for the first ten weeks at a designated time and day, with upper grade students learning how to take their own heart rates. In addition, students will give input through surveys and as parents you will also be invited to participate in online data gathering.
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
By that same token I can say that prayers are also not religious because it involves speech and goodness knows that speech is universally done. Because prayer involves stringing the letters of the alphabet together as all language does, it must not be religious.
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
The hypocrisy is phenomenal. In attacking the Pledge of Allegiance or prayer in schools, Progressives are all worried about the kids feeling bad. But now with this study, data is being collected and that's just fine with them. Because Progressives are Collectivists and the ends justify the means always for them.
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by peck420
There is no form in yoga that is not found in countless other cultural exercises
Yoga is taught widely in many places, but that is only because dedicated teachers have traveled to different places and set up schools. It is not because yoga is some kind of universal exercise.
Here is an example of one such an organization which has established locations in different parts of the globe.
www.dlshq.org...
People should really look this stuff up instead of just saying whatever comes to mind.
Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus
I didn't say yoga didn't have spiritual or cultural roots, I said the the school district removed those aspects which is perfectly possible with yoga.
The issue is a non-religious, non-spiritual, non-cultural even yoga class being offered to children
The reason why organized prayer was removed from schools is a little thing called "separation of church and state"
"School Prayer" (Murray v. Curlett, 1963)
School prayer was the focus of Madalyn Murray O'Hair, a militant left wing atheist with close ties to the American Communist Party, when she filed a lawsuit against the school board of Baltimore. The local court judge, J. Gilbert Pendergast, dismissed the petition stating, "It is abundantly clear that petitioners' real objective is to drive every concept of religion out of the public school system." The case went to the Maryland Court of Appeals, and the court ruled, "Neither the First nor the Fourteenth Amendment was intended to stifle all rapport between religion and government."
- See more at: www.allabouthistory.org...
The "School Prayer" case then made its way to the U.S. Supreme Court. Leonard Kerpelman addressed the court saying prayer in the public schools had been tolerated for so long that it had become traditional and that anything that is unconstitutional does not become constitutional through tradition. He went on to say the Constitution had erected a "wall of separation" between church and state, at which point Justice Potter Steward interrupted, asking where this wording appears. Kerpelman was stumped and an embarrassing silence followed. When he regained his composure, he stated that the text was not explicit on the point but that it had been interpreted to mean so.
Secular Humanism - Excluding God from Schools & Society
Secular Humanism is an attempt to function as a civilized society with the exclusion of God and His moral principles. During the last several decades, Humanists have been very successful in propagating their beliefs. Their primary approach is to target the youth through the public school system. Humanist Charles F. Potter writes, "Education is thus a most powerful ally of humanism, and every American school is a school of humanism. What can a theistic Sunday school's meeting for an hour once a week and teaching only a fraction of the children do to stem the tide of the five-day program of humanistic teaching?" (Charles F. Potter, "Humanism: A New Religion," 1930)
John J. Dunphy, in his award winning essay, The Humanist (1983), illustrates this strategic focus, "The battle for humankind's future must be waged and won in the public school classroom by teachers who correctly perceive their role as the proselytizers of a new faith: A religion of humanity -- utilizing a classroom instead of a pulpit to carry humanist values into wherever they teach. The classroom must and will become an arena of conflict between the old and the new -- the rotting corpse of Christianity, together with its adjacent evils and misery, and the new faith of humanism."
Is this what's happening? John Dewey, remembered for his efforts in establishing America's current educational systems, was one of the chief signers of the 1933 Humanist Manifesto. It seems the Humanists have been interested in America's education system for nearly a century. They have been absolutely successful in teaching children that God is imaginary and contrary to "science."