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Originally posted by Rex282
Originally posted by Thejaybird
................... My "crisis", if you can call it that, was dealing with the idea that a God of love would create the majority of people to spend eternity in eternal torment. That idea never, ever, made sense to me, and I needed to see where such an idea originated. The quesions and ideas raised by both Buechner and Capon gave me the courage to move forward.
And what I found fascinated me, thrilled me, and changed not only my life, but how I veiw everything in the world. This didn't happen overnight; it began fifteen years ago, and continues to this day.
To make a long story short, I now believe in what is referred to as "ultimate reconciliation", and I fully believe that it is one hundred percent supported in and by the Bible, from Genesis to the maps. Because of this, I have been branded (by Christians, no less) as a heretic, an abomination, an blashemer of the Holy Spirit, and in my personal favorite, a "agent of Satan". None of this deters my belief, as I am one who studies as much as I humanly, possibly can, and I am confident in my conclusions, and am willing to discuss/share them with anyone who wants to hear them.
The biggest change in all of this is that I have openly, happily, and fully abandoned "religion" as both a pracice and a construct, as I believe that it is one of the greatest deterrents to people coming to the knowledge of the truth in the world today.
I know not where this journey will take me, but I'm excited to see where the road ahead will lead.
The false doctrine of the eternal punishment of hell will be the "turning point" for most people.BTW that is a root meaning of the word crisis and has to do with judgement.Judgment in Hebrew word is MISHPAT which means verdict.It is about truth not condemnation.In Greek it is connected to words with a prefix "kri" ..meaning ....I judge.Crisis in English come from Krisis in Greek meaning an experience and time of crucial testing.Which connects to torment which is touchstone...how gold is tested for purity.As you can see..so many of the words meaning of "religion" are completely out of wack.
The wide path of religion has many turns but all of them lead to the wide gate where religion is destroyed(an irony for the standard belief).The narrow path is where everything gets turned on it's head.The myth of free will being a catalyst.Then you will know what being called a heretic by EVERYONE is.
again ... being free of the false doctrine of eternal punishment is a MAJOR turning point leading to"many,many,more...however ...in the scheme of things it is just a preview.All the best to you.edit on 10-8-2013 by Rex282 because: (no reason given)
There is no such place as hell. Jesus never said the word "he'll" once, and the Hebrew word that the translators used for hell is "Sheol", which has zero connotation of a place of torment.
If you would indulge me by explaining how your faith or skepticism or abandonment of other ideas came about, in your own words, I would consider myself blessed indeed, enriched, and one tiny step closer to understanding.
Okay, guys, hiya.
How about starting a new thread about "hell" - I also believe it's not real, but, in the infamous words of "Paul" the executioner ......
"You are cluttering up my mile."
This thread is dedicated to historical documentation, not debate about finer points.
Mkay?? If, my dear and valued friends, you don't object. I promise to participate, having recently found some interesting data to contribute.
edit on 10-8-2013 by wildtimes because: (no reason given)