Originally posted by adjensen
reply to post by Cancerwarrior
Awesome story, thanks for sharing.
Whenever I think about the bad stuff that's happened to me, and wonder why I'm still here and better people than I are not, I just set it aside and figure that God has something for me to do, and maybe I'll find out later what it was, and whether I did it. Anything else is maddening and depressing, so I just leave it in God's hands.
Originally posted by wildtimes
Was it something you were born into?
Originally posted by wildtimes
If so, did you stay with it, or move on and leave it behind?
Originally posted by Joecroft
Having read your bullet pointed journey above, I would like to give you a snippet of my own journey so far, so you can get a better Idea of where I’m coming from…
Like yourself I wasn’t brought up a Christian by my family and for most of my life, I would describe myself as being an Agnostic/Atheist. When I was 21 years old, I had a very strange experience. I awoke in the middle of the might at about 3am and I could hear a voice speaking the Lords prayer. The voice was powerful yet gentle at the same time, which I know sounds like a contradiction but that’s the best way I can describe it. Later I just shrugged it off as a dream, but deep down, I knew it was real…
Many years later, like yourself, I began to investigate into Christianity and started to attend a born again Christian church. I asked many questions, attended functions, meetings etc but I slowly got to point where I just couldn’t believe in God, by faith alone, so I decided to leave the church.
For some reason I just couldn’t let it go, so I started to study the Bible, research and debate Christianity online etc, to try and reach some kind of truth. At this time I was reading and absorbing myself in a lot of Jesus words from the bible. Then one night I heard the exact same voice again, except this time the voice asked me a question, and the question was “What is man?” and I also felt an inner voice asking me “what are you?”.
Over a period of time of about 6 to 7 months I began to realize inwardly, that I was a part of the living God, spiritually speaking (It was only about a year later that I discovered that a similar question, was written in the “Gospel of Thomas”!)
As I began to work my way through reading Jesus words, I slowly began to believe that God was speaking through Jesus (and I still do today).
Somewhere around that time I experience a tingling sensation in the center of my forehead, where my third eye is located. Although at that time I didn’t know anything about the 3rd eye, still don’t know much about it, except the basics. It only happened 3 times, once when I was outside, another when I was at home reading a book. The other time I woke up in the middle of the night, and the sensation in my forehead, was so intense, that I couldn’t stop laughing out loud. I even went to the doctor lol but I was told there was nothing wrong with me…
During my research into just about every Christian denomination out there, I began to believe in Jesus, but not in a completely standard orthodox Christian way. Then one night while I was reading John 14 I received the Holy Spirit and literally experience what is described in John 7:38.
Anyway, recently through watching some of the Buddhist videos, I have learned that there core teaching, is that question of “What Am I”, or “What are you?” Which is same question that God asked me. This is why I have become more drawn to it recently.
I will still never forget the day when I first read that line in the Gospel of Thomas…..Having already answered it, prier to discovering it…
“When you know yourselves, then you will be known, and you will understand that you are children of the living Father. But if you do not know yourselves, then you live in poverty, and you are the poverty."
Sorry for rambling on…just had to get it out there lol
Originally posted by wildtimes
I'm not lonely in the least. I happily spend most of my days in solitude (apart from my 5 animal companions), and silence - without TV or radio. I don't make many calls, nor do I receive many. I suppose that my "ATS life" is my social circle for now!
I like to study things and what I get into is difficult so I need the isolation to be able to form complex strings of thought to understand what I am studying. "Isolation" meaning not someone else in the house bothering you every five minutes.
Total isolation, though, I don't think is real healthy.
. . . a lot of focus and concentration . . .
So, I want to inquire to ATS members at large as to your personal "Revealed God". I believe we each have our own private methods and means to arrive at some sort of reconciliation with the great unknown, and am hoping that you will feel free to share here (or in a u2u if you prefer confidentiality) how you see your "religious" development. Was it something you were born into? If so, did you stay with it, or move on and leave it behind? If not, how did you come to prefer the "faith" or "absolute atheism" that you have now?
I broke out for reasons similar to your friend, "pre-set damnation for some people".
Luckily for me, I read a lot of fiction, therefore I'm familiar with putting myself in the protagonists shoes. As I was reading the Exodus story for the 11th time, it suddenly hit me how horrifying it all really was. No way in hell would I have survived such a thing. I would have taken the first opportunity to desert. No doubt some tongue of flame would reach out and destroy me anyway.
But I pressed on, got to the part where the inhabitants of the land were to be utterly destroyed. So I put myself in the place of the inhabitants. Obviously, the god of armies had nothing good to offer me.
That's pretty much the way I read the rest of the Bible through. When I finally got to Revelation, and saw the dogs left out of the city, that's when I decided "Well if someone is called a dog, or evil, or unrighteous, then that's where I'll be too." And so I became a heathen, of a very polytheistic brand of primitive shamanism. (note:1996)
I still have to remind myself from time to time that the Old Testament god character has nothing good to offer me. And insofar as the New Testament god is identified as the Old Testament god, he doesn't either. And so I am a crypto neo Marcionite of the third splinter sect(date note: 2010) and a heathen polytheist. What a mess!