Originally posted by vasaga
Obviously, the more advanced something is, the higher the chance for mistakes.
Say what? How does that make the least bit of sense? Our medical technology is far more advanced today and you're claiming the the older technology
100 years ago made less mistakes? Just because they weren't aware of all the mistakes, doesn't mean they didn't make them. The more advanced or
intelligent something is the LESS LIKELY it is to make a mistake. Just look at SAT scores and other tests of intelligence. Smart people make less
mistakes, and it should be assumed that any being capable of creating a lifeform or altering DNA is much more advanced than ourselves.. but the
results go against it.
Not to mention it's a self-regulating system, which we have a lot of trouble creating. You're talking about stupidly designed, but, when
exactly have we created anything even remotely resembling say, a brain?
Or hell, take something more simple, our arteries closing themselves after being injected with a needle, like if a pipe gets a leak, the pipe
plugging and sealing itself itself. And you call that stupidly designed?
I call that NOT designed. I mean why have the reproduction system and the waste system combined into one? Look how many disease can be caused because
of that? If I were designing a city, I wouldn't put a park in the middle of the sewer system. Why are certain foods bad for you and certain foods
good? Sounds very inefficient to me. Our flesh is soft and weak, not attuned to wilderness survival any more. We can die very easily. We can go
blind very easily plus our eyes are weaker than a lot of other lesser life forms. In fact all of our senses are weaker except possibly touch. That
doesn't make the least bit of sense for a designer. Aging, liquid blood that's easy to loose, same tube for breathing and eating, leads to choking
and death. We have main arteries that aren't even protected minimally. You could slip cut the neck and you're dead in 5 minutes tops.
Noting that the brain is only one component of any creature, and is more advanced than we can even begin to comprehend, how can you even begin
to say that our whole bodies are stupidly designed? You have to try really really REALLY hard, to blind yourself from all the amazing things our
bodies are capable of, and to somehow think it does stupid things compared to our standards.
Our bodies are amazing, but they weren't designed; it evolved and it's obvious. If we were designed it was a bang up job done by somebody who didn't
really have a firm grasp on what they were doing. It is certainly not created by an all powerful being for the reasons above.
Even when ironically, those thoughts you're having are, according to your own materialistic view, coming from your own body. If you're able to
think of something that surpasses your body, you've already gone into something that transcends materialism. Nice way to debunk your own views right
You're a funny guy, I have to admit. You must not scrutinize your arguments, or just like to keep it simple. OMG he's thinking about a higher
intelligence! That MUST MEAN DESIGN. Evolution's WRONG!!!
And that is all assuming we actually have vestigial organs. I would argue that we don't have (so many of) them, and that it's just another
biased view towards supporting the idea that we got here randomly.
There's that random word again. It's a shame people only stick to catch phrases like that instead of actually explaining what science says. Oh, it
was just random, end of story. I hate to burst your bubble but evolution is not random, despite how desperately you want it to be. Well gee, you
must have just debunked you're own argument there.
If you wish, you can list all the so-called vestigial organs, and I'll tell you what their function is, or is supposed to be. You're acting as
if we have a whole list of vestigial organs, but that number is EXTREMELY limited, compared to all the things that actually do have a function. There
might be a few vestigial organs, but, again, the whole vestigial organ thing is from the perspective that things should be perfectly designed if it
was intelligently designed, which is a flawed perspective.
Why would there be a few vestigial organs? Or even just one? Please by all means, explain from a design perspective why that would happen? Why a
tailbone? I understand that some people believe in genetic modification of early evolved hominids, but saying we were designed from scratch or that
all life was holds no merit whatsoever.
Oyeah, we just need to add the little miracle worker called natural selection. which is unfalsifiable.
Now I know you're joking around. That is flat out false. It's been observed many many times.
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