posted on Feb, 23 2013 @ 10:55 PM
Originally posted by Son of Will
Originally posted by pheonix358
Before he became Pope, Ratzinger was utterly responsible for the coverups of child rape over many decades.
By and by, interesting to note that the age of consent to a sexual act within Vatican City is ...... wait for it .....12. Yes, 12 year olds can
apparently consent to sex. Sort of makes it all legal and nice.
It has been 12 since 1929 and prior to that, as far as I can determine, it was 0.
I'm pretty sure that's not accurate. This website has
some good information on that "factoid" as it is referred to. Let me cite a bit:
The Vatican City-State was created under the terms of the Lateran Pact of 1929 between Italy
and The Holy See. The pact consists of three treaties. The main intent of the pact was to formally recognise the sovereignty of the Holy See and come
to settlement over past losses the Catholic Church suffered (Conciliation Treaty [CT], Article 26).
In it's creation, the Vatican City automatically inherited Italy's laws and penal code. It also allowed that the Vatican would hand over criminals
to be tried in Italy, under Italian Law (CT Article 22). The Vatican City does not have civil courts.
One of these laws it inherited was the age of sexual consent, which was 12. This is the "factoid" bandied about on the internet. It is incomplete
information, and is likely incorrect.
It is incomplete because the law had two parts. The second part mentions the age of consent is 15 where one of the parties was some-one in a
relationship of dependence, such as a Doctor-Patient or Teacher-Student. We could therefore expect the Vatican to prosecute on these issues as a
However, as I said, this fact is likely incorrect. From what I can determine, the source of this information comes from the Wikipedia page listing the
age of consent for all countries around the world [ref]. It argues that once these laws came into existence in 1929, they were fixed from then on.
This is not so. The pact allowed for the laws of Italy, as they changed, to continually apply to the Vatican. Currently, this age is 14/16.
The age of consent in Italy is 14 years, with a close-in-age exception that allows those aged 13 to engage in sexual activity with partners who are
less than 3 years older. The age of consent rises to 16 if one of the participants has some kind of influence on the other (e.g. teacher, tutor,
biological or adoptive parent)
There's quite a bit more, if you're interested. But the point is, it was adopted from Italian law in the legal creation of the Vatican. Moreover, as
they tend to update their laws with those of Italy, and Italy now has a consent age of 14, it's probably not even accurate anymore.
I have researched this issue and I do not get my primary research from Wiki!
The Laws of Italy do not apply to the Vatican! The Vatican makes up it's own Laws and has done so since 1929. It initially took Italy's Laws as a
starting point and to appease Italy at the negotiation table. Once the City State was legally formed the Vatican went on its merry way changing
whatever was convenient. The Vatican did not update age of consent Laws when Italy did. In fact the moment it became a city state it could do as it
pleased as any nation can.
One of the famous excuses given by the Vatican is that there are no children living in the Vatican because, well, they are all celibate. Pity about
visitors though! The Vatican does not consider novitiates as children either, do some research to see how old some of those children are.
Another excuse is that the Laws were never updated because sexual acts never occur in the Vatican because it is against cannon Law. You have to love
To further the point Italy has extradition Treaties, the Vatican does not!
The Age of Consent Law within Vatican City is 12!
It applies equally to Vatican citizens as it does to visitors and guests. It is
disgusting! The Church Rants on about sexual conduct and pokes its two faced attitudes down every one elses throats while at home they continue to
Rape and Sodomize children.
With all due respect, much of what you consider to be the case is in fact mis-information and downright lies spread by the Church itself.
The Catholic Church is the largest multinational corporation on this planet!
The Catholic Church is the most powerful multinational corporation on this planet!
The Catholic Church is the richest multinational corporation on this planet!
The Catholic Church is, by far, the multinational corporation responsible for more heart breaking and dispicable crimes against our children than any
other in history.