Real Alien Footage Or Hoax?, page 1

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Topic started on 22-2-2013 @ 07:48 PM by Vrillion

Could this footage be an authentic alien? All pixels seem to be in sync with the original video so using any CGI software to edit this would be a hard thing to do. But what interest me the most is that there is movement from the Greys. What do you guys think?

YouTube Link

Take into consideration people when you try to conclude or state something is a hoax. Ask yourself Why would this be hoaxed? What kind of CGI software is this? Who hoaxed this? This should just be a logical way of declaring something is hoaxed but it is rarely used so please take this into your mind.

reply posted on 22-2-2013 @ 07:55 PM by Infi8nity

Originally posted by Vrillion

Take into consideration people when you try to conclude or state something is a hoax. Ask yourself Why would this be hoaxed? What kind of CGI software is this? Who hoaxed this? This should just be a logical way of declaring something is hoaxed but it is rarely used so please take this into your mind.

I think a better question would be, why would the Govt allow this to be viewed by the public? What would be the point of top secret clearance if the Govt is doing nothing to conceal top secret?

Why hoax? For kicks, for experiments for other reasons not understood but its done allot. I hope its not, if it is we will find out.

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reply posted on 22-2-2013 @ 07:57 PM by TheSparrowSings

I think this might be one of the few legitimate captures of a UFO and its occupants. I don't have the skills to debunk this or any reason to. Its interesting to see the different screen captures of the occupants and what they look like. They all look similar and that typical long necked "grey" being.

reply posted on 22-2-2013 @ 07:58 PM by Bixxi3

Im not commenting on the video right now in this post, i just would like to put a little bit of info out there.

A video can be faked and life long experts with video analyzing programs wouldn't even be able to tell.
I just wanted to remind people of that FACT. A horrible fact that makes finding out the truth really hard.

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reply posted on 22-2-2013 @ 08:03 PM by thedoctorswife

reply to post by Vrillion

ok, i know this sounds daft, but its late at night, the kids are out for the night, im on my own in the house,normally id jump straight into this, is it scary,? what does it rate on the spookometer???? lol im embarrased now

reply posted on 22-2-2013 @ 08:07 PM by timetothink

Video is not there, at least for me.

Could you post a link, I really want I see it.

Thanks!

reply posted on 22-2-2013 @ 08:12 PM by TFCJay

I do not believe it is real. I call hoax. Judging by your avatar I think I know what you believe. But I could be wrong. My wife loves to tell me that all the time.

reply posted on 22-2-2013 @ 08:16 PM by redtic

Note that the well-respected (at least by me) Forgetomori did a piece on this:

forgetomori.com...

but I have to say that I didn't come away convinced as I usually do from them. That said, this is yet another extremely inconclusive piece of "evidence" to the UFO phenomenon.

reply posted on 22-2-2013 @ 08:33 PM by Swills

Here it is embedded,

YouTube Link

reply posted on 22-2-2013 @ 08:35 PM by MoonChild1973

I think we're past the time of discussing this matter as if it's real or not, some people won't believe even if the craft lands in their garden, others will believe any light in the sky to be of alien nature. Point is, the absolute lack of reasonable positioning of governments around the world concerning this issue makes valid both skeptics and believers point of view. Alas we should take this matter seriously and start thinking outside the box.

To me, this looks exactly what it seems, aliens... aliens in their crafts. But nothing will ever prove or debunk this, at least not until government and science take the next step into this.

If these UFOS and their occupants are ever proven real, today's science and politicians will be judged by history the same as the Church was in the dark ages... funny how things can change.

All one can do at this point is have his own personal view of the subject.

Thanks for the post and the video,

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reply posted on 22-2-2013 @ 08:44 PM by Vrillion

reply to post by TFCJay

Looks deceive.

reply posted on 22-2-2013 @ 08:46 PM by Vrillion

reply to post by Infi8nity

The Government would let this be viewed because people are going to think it is fake obviously. But if the government said it was real it would cause mass commotion and distress.

reply posted on 22-2-2013 @ 08:47 PM by Vrillion

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What is your source/evidence for that supposed fact?

reply posted on 22-2-2013 @ 08:54 PM by redtic

Originally posted by MoonChild1973
If these UFOS and their occupants are ever proven real, today's science and politicians will be judged by history the same as the Church was in the dark ages... funny how things can change.

That's a mighty big if. To that, I say, where's the smoking gun? Where's the multiple videos of a single incident that tells me "yeah, that can't be anything but from out of this world"? We hear all too convincing stories that can't be corroborated with video or photos, and the video/photos that we do get are anything but conclusive. I honestly don't know how anyone can currently draw the conclusion that the UFO phenomenon is anything but bunk. Don't get me wrong - as Mulder says, I want to believe, and there's plenty of stories out there that make me want to do so (see Leslie Kean's UFO book), but until I see something conclusive, I have to say it's all just a misinterpretation of the data provided..

reply posted on 22-2-2013 @ 09:03 PM by mcx1942

Originally posted by Vrillion
reply to post by Infi8nity

The Government would let this be viewed because people are going to think it is fake obviously. But if the government said it was real it would cause mass commotion and distress.

I don't understand why people think/say proof of ETs would create commotion or distress. We have been subjected to "aliens" for years now within the media and I just don't understand why people would go crazy. I think it would be a big deal for about a month then it would die out just as fast as Gangnam Style did, unless they were hostel entities. People these days get excited about a trend, then get bored and move on.

The Vatican even went public a year or two ago about how if ETs exist that would not sway their view on God one bit. I think we have grown enough to not go crazy and start burning down our cities if empirical proof came forward. Just my opinion though.

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reply posted on 22-2-2013 @ 09:13 PM by Vrillion

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The Vatican does not have as much power the government. The government/governments are also our world leaders so if they admit to aliens from another land, people will of course will go crazy because they have never seen, relate to an alien. Than the government/governments would find it harder to control people in a state of insanity so they believe it is better to keep it hidden from the public.

reply posted on 22-2-2013 @ 09:16 PM by MoonChild1973

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I won't try to provide proof to you, there's none who can, both for denying or believing the UFO/Alien phenomenon. The phenomenon is real if taken as social matter, it's of no use pointing to this or that video, picture or even unclassified document. I mean, whatever they (ufos/aliens) are, one thing is sure: so called scientists and 'experts' can't find a definitive answer. There is all kind of evidence, both to deny or accept these facts, in the end is up to yourself to forme your own opinion, there is no smoking gun, on both sides.

By the way, you mention forgetomori, having lived in Brazil for many years I can tell you this guy (or institution?) has an agenda, he's a skeptical. Nothing wrong with it, but not many people knows he's a skeptical. He says his name is "Kentaro Mori", being born in Japan and having moved to Brazil as a child. His Brazilian website is a crusade against reality, disguised as a man (if he really exist, I mean) who seeks the truth... no, he seeks the truth that suits his believes. In time, "Kentaro Mori" is a man of mystery, no picture, no interviews on youtube, no video of any kind, no way to check his background, if any at all. It may be even a case of a group of people who created this name and acts behind it, who knows...

But what real science has to say about this ? When concerning the possibility of intelligent life outside Earth (not visiting it, necessarily), Dr. Amir D. Aczel, possibly the most prominent name in the field of mathematic - specially statistics - has a book and an equation on this subject, basically Dr. Aczel expanded the Drake Equation from our solar system to all visible universe, the result is 1, hence the name of his book "probability one", that is 100% of chance of intelligent life outside our world. His equation is available on the internet and deeply explained in his book, Dr. Aczel is a respected scientist (ask anyone involved in mathematics). This is science, and the result is astonishing and a problem to skeptics who like their 'believers' nemesis use flaw arguments all the time. Seek this book, it's worth reading.

All the best,

reply posted on 22-2-2013 @ 09:27 PM by redtic

Originally posted by MoonChild1973
reply to post by redtic

I won't try to provide proof to you, there's none who can, both for denying or believing the UFO/Alien phenomenon. The phenomenon is real if taken as social matter, it's of no use pointing to this or that video, picture or even unclassified document. I mean, whatever they (ufos/aliens) are, one thing is sure: so called scientists and 'experts' can't find a definitive answer. There is all kind of evidence, both to deny or accept these facts, in the end is up to yourself to forme your own opinion, there is no smoking gun, on both sides.

By the way, you mention forgetomori, having lived in Brazil for many years I can tell you this guy (or institution?) has an agenda, he's a skeptical. Nothing wrong with it, but not many people knows he's a skeptical. He says his name is "Kentaro Mori", being born in Japan and having moved to Brazil as a child. His Brazilian website is a crusade against reality, disguised as a man (if he really exist, I mean) who seeks the truth... no, he seeks the truth that suits his believes. In time, "Kentaro Mori" is a man of mystery, no picture, no interviews on youtube, no video of any kind, no way to check his background, if any at all. It may be even a case of a group of people who created this name and acts behind it, who knows...

But what real science has to say about this ? When concerning the possibility of intelligent life outside Earth (not visiting it, necessarily), Dr. Amir D. Aczel, possibly the most prominent name in the field of mathematic - specially statistics - has a book and an equation on this subject, basically Dr. Aczel expanded the Drake Equation from our solar system to all visible universe, the result is 1, hence the name of his book "probability one", that is 100% of chance of intelligent life outside our world. His equation is available on the internet and deeply explained in his book, Dr. Aczel is a respected scientist (ask anyone involved in mathematics). This is science, and the result is astonishing and a problem to skeptics who like their 'believers' nemesis use flaw arguments all the time. Seek this book, it's worth reading.

All the best,

Hey - I appreciate your reply. As usual, it's up to the posit-er to supply the proof. It's the same with "god" - of course you can't prove a negative.

Regarding forgetomori - I could pretty much guess he's skeptical, since he sets out to debunk anything he posts about. In my opinion, that's a good thing - if, in the end, you can't do so, then it's worth pursuing more (and, in my opinion, is the case with the particular incident from the OP).

Regarding alien life - I have *no doubt* alien life exists - the question is, whether or not it's visiting this world. So far, there's been no convincing evidence, imho, that this is so. But I'm not giving up hope - hence one of the reasons I hover around here on ATS. I think that somewhere out there is the proverbial smoking gun - I just haven't found it yet...

reply posted on 22-2-2013 @ 09:37 PM by MoonChild1973

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Sorry for this "one line reply", but I want to say how pleased I am with the high level of education and cordiality here, I thank the OP and others who made this small thread a peaceful place to exchange information. Wish all others posts on ATS had this hi level of cordiality... that's why it took me over 5 years to register here on ATS, if I could I would S/F this post.
Have a great weekend everyone, I enjoyed being part of this nice conversation...

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reply posted on 22-2-2013 @ 09:49 PM by redtic

Originally posted by MoonChild1973
reply to post by redtic

Sorry for this "one line reply", but I want to say how pleased I am with the high level of education and cordiality here, I thank the OP and others who made this small thread a peaceful place to exchange information. Wish all others posts on ATS had this hi level of cordiality... that's why it took me over 5 years to register here on ATS, if I could I would S/F this post.
Have a great weekend everyone, I enjoyed being part of this nice conversation...
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Kudos to cordiality - wish there was much more of it on the Internet in general...

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