reply to post by sacgamer25
Yes Jesus is the only way to salvation, but there is more than one way to find him. It is even possible for him to be found by some of the
other names he goes by. ie, love, light, ext....
I would prefer not to call the aeonic force by a name so heavily steeped in dogma. It tends to contort the meaning and intention of the aeon. It
should never be defined by any one example, because it's an entire spectrum, a web of possibilities. Whatever you can dream of or imagine, that's what
it is - creation.
Just so we're clear:
1. an immeasurably long period of time; age
2. (Astronomy) a period of one thousand million years
3. (Christian Religious Writings / Theology) (often capital) Gnosticism one of the powers emanating from the supreme being and culminating in the
I'm looking at definition # 3.
1. A powerful creative force or personality.
2. A public magistrate in some ancient Greek states.
3. Demiurge A deity in Gnosticism, Manichaeism, and other religions who creates the material world and is often viewed as the originator of evil.
4. Demiurge A Platonic deity who orders or fashions the material world out of chaos.
de·i·ty (d-t, d-)
n. pl. de·i·ties
1. A god or goddess.
a. The essential nature or condition of being a god; divinity.
We mortals can become demiurgic deities through communion with the aeon. A very, very long time ago, we held the secret - but someone decided they
didn't want us to possess that knowledge. I couldn't tell you were it started, I can only tell you it continues out of ignorance. And we are meant to
discover it, to utilize it...only by achieving that state can we unleash the full range of possibilities for our creativity - and by extension, our
experience of the physical realms - which is the path history shows us. That's how we've gotten this far, but we've been distracted into taking
numerous detours by the temptations of our physical vessels. But how else do we learn? We must practice! We must exercise our wings if we want to
There is only one God, anyone who believes in a singular expression of something that could be considered responsible for creation believes in
the same God, because there is only one. The one way to know for sure you have found God, you will have found true love for the first time in your
life. Can't really explain it any better.
I don't believe in any conscious entity. My thoughts are that consciousness leads to thoughts, thoughts lead to emotions, emotions lead to bias, and
bias leads to judgment. And given the properties attributed to this being, judgment would be akin to suicide. Millions of individual suicides. Why put
your son on the cross when you're just going to put yourself there when Judgment Day comes? All those tiny pieces that will burn forever but never
die, while it feels like 85% of you went to hell with them. Kinda makes me want to add "sadomasochism" to his list of diagnoses. I mean, any man who
kills his children because they didn't grow up to be what he wanted is seriously twisted.
"But he's not a man - he's God!"
Yeah, well, he acts human enough to judge him by human standards. I've seen people just like him inside the White House. Made in his image, right?
Haha, sheds a whole new light on that little riddle...
On the last one that would be no. The bible even says that you can speak against both the father and son and be saved, but not against the
Ah, but do you really know what the "Holy Spirit" is? Do you know its properties, its functions, its nature? Do you know its natural motion, where it
comes from, or what you really want from it?
The Holy Spirit is not an end-all guardian. It is not an omnipotent skeleton key. It's very comparable to the Force in Star Wars. Less woo woo, but
just as pervasive. It's intellectual gravity. It is a force responsible for both information and physical form alike. It comes in all manner of
languages and mediums, can be as different as a French poem to a football program on the radio. That much is pretty obvious, considering how many
shades of nuance the human mind applies to everything. The unfortunate thing with languages, though, is that they fossilize every idea you put down on
paper. For stability's sake, we take ideas and close them in boxes so that 50 years later, our understanding has evolved but those definitions don't
change in the slightest. And given how much information we store for future reference, those labels create an anchor that limits our imagination. We
recycle new ideas for old ones.
And that is exactly what has happened to the phrase "Holy Spirit". It's kind of funny, though...the oldest definition of the phrase has been
completely smothered in layers of interpretation and drunken revision. I eagerly await the revolution of thought, because then we will be forced to
refresh and update everything we know and understand about the universe.
This would mean speaking against the obvious power of God. Like when the Pharisees' asked Jesus if he was demon possessed. It was obvious that
the power of the Holy Spirit was at work in him, but they refused to repent and seek the truth. So it is unlikely that it is possible at this time for
anyone to speak against the Holy Spirit as the bible speaks of this.
As I have mentioned before - for possessing all the power in the universe, Jesus sure acted like he wasn't taking it seriously. If he was sincerely
interested in saving every human soul, he would have put on the 4th of July for everyone in the world, and even manifested as a projection in every
country in the world. Grant three proofs of his claims, and everyone is ready to listen and take him seriously. That's what I call getting s*** done.
You have to know when to grab people by their attention spans and shake them. After he did that, he could have just ruled for the rest of time. What's
the use in waiting to save the people? Why not just preserve us? There were a thousand possibilities, all of them exuberant and unmistakeable, but he
chose the most minimal and ineffective means of accomplishing his goal. Like Superman taping plastic over a gaping hole in an airplane.
And yes, I am going to second guess such tactics. If he was going to act human, then he should have exhibited a human personality. He showed anger,
grief, joy, everything it is to be human. I hate to keep using this example, but let's talking Superman vs The Elites. The closest comparison I can
make. He exerted his power rather than allow his people to come to harm. He pushed himself to protect the planet. When's the last time Jesus did that?
People say it was "God" or Jesus, but why then doesn't he come down, show himself, reach out a hand, and say, "You are healed. Go and share the
For having so much power, they seem very reserved with their benevolence.
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