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2Pac Died For Us; Spirit of a True American Hero

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posted on Feb, 24 2013 @ 06:15 AM
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reply to post by Kapablanka
 

sorry im not buying it.. he was a thug killed by other thugs over money. this was a case of live by the sword die by the sword.




posted on Feb, 24 2013 @ 09:02 AM
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Actually, by stating this I think you know nothing about Tupac or the person he really was. The 'Thug life' isn't about litirally being a thug, but about fighting the system. He was a voice for the millions of poor black folks who felt ignored by the government. He was a threat and that's why they killed him.

People who are saying otherwise just haven't listend enough of his music, you simply don't know him. He was going to run for political office, he was young talented and had the money to do so, not to mention the millions of followers. He was indeed a fallen soldier like JFK, and he should get the respect he deserves. We should place him on the same list as Malcom X and Martin Luther King and John F. Kennedy.



posted on Feb, 24 2013 @ 09:26 AM
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Originally posted by Witness123
2pac was a thug who faked his own death because of his deluded fantasy.

How does a dead rapper release seven posthumous albums?


Well that could be the fact that Tupac has hundreds of unrealesed songs and the greedy record companies enjoy further exploiting him and financially gaining off his material.



posted on Feb, 24 2013 @ 09:42 AM
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I don't see it. What exactly did he do for everyone? I know a lot of good people who do good things without getting caught in scandal. People do not go around sucker punching others to prove a point. Those that do illustrate that it never works. Abusive people always justify their actions to make themselves look like heros but really they are just bullies. You pointed out that he did ballet and was strong. Physical strenth doesn't serve heros. Courage, patience and the ability to motivate others to pass bills that help masses of people. He wasn't fighting against drugs or heart disease. He wasn't trying to keep children safe by erecting Boys and Girls clubs near middle schools. He didn't so much as plant a flower to beautify a neighborhood. He was confrontational in isolated incidences. No one recognizes the stranger who stops to help a middle aged woman change her tire on the freeway. 2Pac wouldn't stop his car to help them. 2Pac disrespected police and therefore was disrespected by them.



posted on Feb, 24 2013 @ 09:46 AM
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Originally posted by DorianSoran
Great American hero, or great American THUG?


THUG, adored by many as a charlatan poet.



posted on Feb, 24 2013 @ 09:53 AM
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Suge Knight is the founder and CEO of Black Kapital Records and co-founder and former CEO of Death Row Records to whom Tupac was signed. Suge was trying to sway Tupac to change his message and incorporate "Illuminati" aspects into his music. Pac wasn't having it, he was all about the voice of the people for free will and change...but that's not the message "they" wanted people to receive.



posted on Feb, 24 2013 @ 09:59 AM
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What kind of educational degree did 2Pac have? Education is important.



posted on Feb, 24 2013 @ 10:17 AM
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This man sold drugs. He admits he got off track in Marin. Even the school in Baltamore said he gained respect because of his "TOUGH GUY" persona. No one could get close to him because he always had his guard up to protect himself from imaginary demons. You can live by his music but not by the man who made it. He was not a role model for poor people. He was swimming in his own pain and couldn't help himself let alone others.



posted on Feb, 24 2013 @ 10:59 AM
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Originally posted by ArchaicDesigns
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"They" had him killed and had Biggie killed afterwards, to make it look like a retaliation. Biggie was shot by members of the police force not a gang, there's proof to back it up if you look for it. These officers were associated with the brotherhood.
Tupac would not give into the "establishment" and refused to change his message and incorporate all their symbolism and methods of mind control into his music for money and further success. Suge knight was the little devil on Tupacs shoulder trying to sway him in that direction. When Suge had exhausted all methods of trying to coax Tupac in that direction, he was considered too much of a threat and was murdered.

Music by the people for the people!

P.S. NYHC rules!


The evidence for this is abundant, people just need to do their research. I have some very good video docs on the subject as well. Here's just a few examples...


Armed robber: Former LAPD officer David Mack has been linked with the murder, and had links to Suge Knight, the founder of Death Row Records, the West Coast label to which Biggie's rival Tupac Shakur was signed.

FBI files on the unsolved murder of rapper 'The Notorious B.I.G.' reveal that a rare type of armour-piercing bullet was used in the hit, throwing further suspicion on corrupt former police officers with possible Brotherhood ties.
FBI files...

The FBI files identify the type of bullets used as Gecko 9mm, a rare metal-piercing munition manufactured in Germany and available in the U.S. through just two distributors, one in California and one in New Jersey.

That will again raise the name of David Mack, a corrupt former LA police officer who served 14 years in jail for a $722,000 armed bank robbery in LA in 1997. When police raided Mack's home they discovered Gecko 9mm ammunition and parked outside was a black Chevy SS Impala. They also found inside, a shrine dedicated to Tupac Shakur who had been murdered six months earlier.

It's very obvious what happened here. Tupac wouldn't comprimise or change his music and message for what the "Brotherhood" and big record labels wanted to follow the secret agenda. Therefore, they had Tupac killed and blamned it on the over hypeded conflict going on between himself and Biggie. They then had Biggie killed to support "their" story and cover their tracks...two birds with one stone.



posted on Feb, 24 2013 @ 11:47 AM
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na just a dead rapper so what?? cant stand the music ........ more into manly metal m/
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ps HEROS DIED ON D-DAY or any other major campain, real hero below !!!

VVVVVVVVV
www.audiemurphy.com...
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posted on Feb, 24 2013 @ 12:35 PM
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How can you say he wasn't a role model? Maybe not to you he wasn't, but as I stated before I was raised the ghetto, and I do consider him a role model. I know there are people on here making comments don't understand what its like to see poverty everyday, to see the bums on the corners, and crack head walking around like zombies. A lot people on this site by the tone in their writing, were raised in middle class neighborhoods. Trust me if you were a ghetto kid you would understand tupacs powerful words. One last thing can we please stop using that word HERO, please save that word for the kids. Sounds funny when grown men talk about heroes. This isn't marvel comics.
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posted on Feb, 24 2013 @ 01:36 PM
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Really? All the people he named have done absolutely nothing. He used to run with snoop and dr dre.. and those guys are just in it for the money.

Tu pac and others may talk about defeating the TPTB but they just talk about it because it is popular but they do nothign more than collect checks.

In they end tupac died as nothing more than a thug with money



posted on Feb, 24 2013 @ 01:46 PM
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Originally posted by solizer
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How can you say he wasn't a role model? Maybe not to you he wasn't, but as I stated before I was raised the ghetto, and I do consider him a role model. I know there are people on here making comments don't understand what its like to see poverty everyday, to see the bums on the corners, and crack head walking around like zombies. A lot people on this site by the tone in their writing, were raised in middle class neighborhoods. Trust me if you were a ghetto kid you would understand tupacs powerful words. One last thing can we please stop using that word HERO, please save that word for the kids. Sounds funny when grown men talk about heroes. This isn't marvel comics.
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yeah and that style of music perpetuates it...........



posted on Feb, 24 2013 @ 03:16 PM
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"In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell.

And Tupac told the truth, not a hero but a revolutionary rapper.



posted on Feb, 24 2013 @ 04:59 PM
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revolutionary rapper is the best way to put it.



posted on Feb, 24 2013 @ 05:09 PM
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i've never heard a '2pac' song, was he famous? well i dont know who he is.
sounds like he was a ghetto rat, got shot by another ghetto rat.
# life # music, you won't be missed.



posted on Feb, 24 2013 @ 06:41 PM
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Originally posted by solizer
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Sounds funny when grown men talk about heroes. This isn't marvel comics.
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Wrong.

Im a grown man and I will call people like this a hero... www.mefd.org...



posted on Feb, 25 2013 @ 01:15 AM
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Originally posted by Rikku
i've never heard a '2pac' song, was he famous? well i dont know who he is.
sounds like he was a ghetto rat, got shot by another ghetto rat.
# life # music, you won't be missed.


ATS is full of racists, yup I said it.

2nd.



posted on Feb, 25 2013 @ 07:23 AM
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What kind of education had he, you said? That is the whole point of ghetto music, those are chances not given to everyone.

On topic, I guess I and if 2Pac was alive he would be satisfied with the term Revolutionairy rapper, maybe instead of a hero.



posted on Feb, 25 2013 @ 11:48 AM
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Originally posted by DeadSnow

Originally posted by Rikku
i've never heard a '2pac' song, was he famous? well i dont know who he is.
sounds like he was a ghetto rat, got shot by another ghetto rat.
# life # music, you won't be missed.


ATS is full of racists, yup I said it.

2nd.


rikku is clearly closed minded and has no intention of "denying ignorance" rather rikku supports ignorance






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