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in the next life then
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
Glad you are amused..
Originally posted by Dragonfly79
What are you doing for others?edit on 28-5-2013 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
Originally posted by Dragonfly79
I've seen too many people with their heads in the clouds yelling all kinds of things which makes sense to them I'm sure but doesn't necessarily do much for others, which they seldom seem to realize.
What are you doing for others?
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by Dragonfly79
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
Originally posted by Dragonfly79
I've seen too many people with their heads in the clouds yelling all kinds of things which makes sense to them I'm sure but doesn't necessarily do much for others, which they seldom seem to realize.
What are you doing for others?
You have told me of your hopes and dreams but you have not told me what you are doing for others.edit on 29-5-2013 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Dragonfly79
But it doesn't do anything for me, I find it amusing at best. Sorry if that sounds belittling but I've seen too many people with their heads in the clouds yelling all kinds of things which makes sense to them I'm sure but doesn't necessarily do much for others, which they seldom seem to realize.edit on 27/5/2013 by Dragonfly79 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Dragonfly79
But for something what I want takes years to complete, I'm not bothered by anyone pointing out I'm not there yet.
So here is my claim to complete, neverending enlightenment Text
Originally posted by ItisnowagainThen maybe you shouldn't expect me to do anything for others either.edit on 29-5-2013 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Dragonfly79
But for something what I want takes years to complete, I'm not bothered by anyone pointing out I'm not there yet.
At the end of the day if you are not there yet how can you offer advice and laugh at what might be wisdom?edit on 29-5-2013 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Chamberf=6
reply to post by Dragonfly79
So here is my claim to complete, neverending enlightenment Text
Also your claim to undeserved self aggrandizement
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Originally posted by preludefanguy
Dragonfly
I believe you have had awakening
as for full enlightenment, it is still within your grasp
if one is still agitated or moved by another's remarks, then you know there is still work to be done
and again I say, for others in this thread, full enlightenment is the resting point yes, but once one is at rest, they can do good work here on earth while they remain in the body, when the mind and soul are at rest, the work of the body can produce much great fruit for yourself and for all
Originally posted by Dragonfly79
Originally posted by preludefanguy
Dragonfly
I believe you have had awakening
You believe I want your faith in me because you use others for that to keep yourself believing in your awakening? Because that is not the system I would ever want to follow to have the feeling I am awake and have something substantial, dependent on other peoples' belief.
as for full enlightenment, it is still within your grasp
You already lost me, I already hung up, I very much doubt the image you have of me in your mind is more than 50% true so I can't even consider what you say anymore as being remotely true.
if one is still agitated or moved by another's remarks, then you know there is still work to be done
and again I say, for others in this thread, full enlightenment is the resting point yes, but once one is at rest, they can do good work here on earth while they remain in the body, when the mind and soul are at rest, the work of the body can produce much great fruit for yourself and for all
Full enlightenment is not to be considered a resting point because it might lead to laziness and no longer verifying if something still holds true, because of progress things change inevitably and so does heaven, one day a better heaven could be created but the resting soul would never try those fruits, deemed different than the only true enlightenment from ages ago.
It is when fighting is no longer there only in the projection of the mind of the other who appeared to initiate it. Fighting is what prevents the sense of peace but when the fighting has been seen through and stops is when the mind can look around and so see other things than 'the fight'.
This means ofcourse most of humanity must be left behind in their struggle and there you have my attachment, the place I'm going to doesn't have many from this planet and I would like others to go there as well but I understand it's difficult to reach so it is in my own self interest as well I pass this along for everyone willing to look into.edit on 29/5/2013 by Dragonfly79 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by preludefanguy
Awakening depends on nobody's faith, beliefs, or contributions. Awakening is uncovering and taking off all the different costumes we put on our soul. It is existing in bare essence, an essence that will always be, before and beyond our own beliefs, or faith.
In your words I see attachment, you speak with attachment, and I have come to know attachment as an emergent property to that of illusion, which attachment then leads to suffering.
Maybe you should read what I said, instead of being ever so eager to offer your rebuttal.
What I meant is resting point for 'mind' 'soul' a satisfaction of sorts, that stops the madness in peoples heads. From this point on, the work really begins, as one is still in form, there is much to do. Even the soul that exists onward is in form. I said I agreed with you, if you would have read carefully, we should try to move forward and see what we can leave behind in the space we occupied for a moment so that others too may find their way.
We should all stop looking at our differences, accept our own greatness and areas where work needs to be done, and take a long look at all that holds us together.
also, the only one that needs truth validated, is one that is still seeking itedit on 30-5-2013 by preludefanguy because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by preludefanguy
reply to post by Dragonfly79
If you think I am speaking against my own statements, then go on and think it. The truth is, is that costumes bring about suffering from attachment to illusion.
If you wish me to leave this topic alone, then I will, this will be my last post on it.
One of the things I like about you, is that you don't take anyone else' truth as your own, and you seek your own truth with full conviction. Be careful not to be blinded by that conviction.
Also, be warned of contacts with other worldly beings, they also have their own versions of truth that do not align with the highest truth, but rather with self preservation. All forms need energy to sustain.
Originally posted by Dragonfly79
So here is my claim to complete, neverending enlightenment and in this topic I'll write about how it all went down. Ofcourse being enlightened and all nobody has to acknowledge or respect my claim which is how everything should be.
This thread can be used to communicate with these two enlightened beings, feel free to ask them anything but know that I decide which questions I answer. And just to be sure there is no confusion from newagers, no this isn't a channeled thread, you ask a question, I go see them and ask them, I leave and wait and then I go back and check to see if they have finished their anwer which I then convey here in my own words, rather than allowing these two beings to take me over and answer through my body from their truth, which isn't the case as I speak from mine.
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
Who is it that is claiming enlightenment?
Is it you or the two beings you speak with to answer the questions asked?
If you have to go to a being and ask questions, does that mean you don't have the answer without them?
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by Dragonfly79
I ask questions to verify what it is you claim? What are you claiming as 'enlightenment' in your thread title?
Why do you assume I am playing games? I have asked genuine and valid questions. I don't just assume I know what you are talking about or where you are coming from yet it seems you are quite defensive when I show an interest and ask you questions.