Meteor Reports Increasing at Alarming Rate: +600% Since 2005. What Are TPTB Not Telling Us?

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posted on Feb, 22 2013 @ 09:02 AM
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While these numbers are posted elsewhere, a thread on the subject I think is needed. The numbers of meteors being reported is up almost 600% since 2005 according to this website that tracks meteor reports from around the world: www.amsmeteors.org...

You can search the data for yourself on the left side of the site, going all the way back to 2005 for recorded information. The totals for each year look as follows:

463 Events found in 2005
517 Events found in 2006
588 Events found in 2007
726 Events found in 2008
694 Events found in 2009
951 Events found in 2010
1,628 Events found in 2011
2,220 Events found in 2012
[3,213 estimated events by end of 2013] (estimation my own)

For 2013, if the current number of 449 since the beginning of the year is extrapolated out to the end of the year, and it is assumed to be a reliable frequency, 2013 is on course to being the biggest year yet, at ~3213 meteor reports (this is a ~600% increase from the time recording began on this site, in 2005).

Also of interest is if you look at the original post I linked to first, youll see just 4 days ago reported meteors in 2013 were only at 377. There has been an increase of 72 sightings within 4 days. If you scroll back through the pages, you can see by looking through the events at the dates that meteor events have recently started being reported with increased frequency. This begins around the 14th, when the meteors in Russia came down.

I bring this to everyones attention as a possible indication that we are relatively beginning to move through a denser area of space that is more filled with rocky debris than Earth is normally accustom too.

If true, the MSM would simply not report this. But while not being reported directly, through indirect means we might be able to postulate that those in the know are preparing for some event that they know is approaching, or at least they believe has a high probability of occurring... such as a drastic increase in meteor activity planet wide.

I speculate that perhaps past civilizations before they destroyed themselves, knew about this possibly cyclical space event that our planet goes through every once in a while, but post self-destruction this then scientific knowledge transformed into the many myths and legends we have today about 2012 and the surrounding period of time.

I would also speculate that TPTB have regained and kept hidden at least a little of this ancient knowledge, and know exactly what to expect based on it.

Seed vaults would start to make a lot of sense. So would DUMBs and cities under cities that only the "chosen" would get to go too. Billions of hollow points, perhaps to fend off angry and scared citizens who will soon know they have a high probability or certainty of dying above ground, would start to fall into context as well.

Or perhaps the mid 2009 policy shift to classify incoming space rocks detected by military satellites and no longer release any information after 15 years of cooperation with the scientific community might come into a better perspective.

But Im sure its just a coincidence that meteor activity increased by ~37% the following year...

Then by ~71% compounded the year after that...

Then another ~36% compounded the next year...

And is set to compound another ~44% this year....

While the defenders of the mainstream and towers of the party line will no doubt dismiss everything claiming "increased reporting, same frequency, nothing to see here, stop questioning and move along now, WE'LL let you know when you need to know something...", I think the possible scenario of drastically increased meteor activity should not be scoffed at by others and the idea looked at without jumping to conclusions. Indeed increased reporting will factor into these numbers in some way, but to ascribe 100% of the increased events to "increased reporting" is... well, who are they trying to fool?

And why?

Knowing all we know about TPTB and their alphabet agencies, none of this information, if true, would ever come out from any of them. An information / media black out about increasing meteor activity and silent planning would ensue instead, keeping the vast majority in the dark for as long as diabolically possible to ensure that plans could be made and put into action to save the lives of those in control of the planet, and the few proles/servants they would deem necessary for their own personal benefit.

The rest of us are on our own. To those of us not associated with TPTB, our first "official" word of such an event might be the obliteration of a city. Relatively small, very difficult to see meteors could impact with the energy of a hydrogen bomb easily.

While nothing is conclusive, consider everything, and draw your own conclusions as to the plausibility of it all.

I personally think something is being deliberately withheld from us.

Something major.




posted on Feb, 22 2013 @ 09:13 AM
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There are more people and more resources dedicated to looking for them every year. The data does not necessarily mean that there are more pieces of rock & ice hurtling around our little neighbourhood.

IRM



posted on Feb, 22 2013 @ 09:18 AM
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That our solar system going through some form of space junks in its own traveling path, bad news is that we are unable to prevent this and sh** may happen anytime anywhere on this little planet.

Good news is….



posted on Feb, 22 2013 @ 09:37 AM
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I think its more important to look at if the idea is plausible or not, rather than if the news is "good" or "bad".



posted on Feb, 22 2013 @ 09:39 AM
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Originally posted by CaticusMaximus
The numbers of meteors being reported is up almost 600% since 2005 ...



What procedure did you use to decouple that increase with the increase of internet users in that timeframe?
And also, the expanding knowledge of the capabilities of the net (the increase in number of existing users who learn about the reporting website) for users already active in that timeframe?

In any case, I'd be more impressed if it could be shown that amateur astronomers interested in meteor sighting have also noticed an increase.



posted on Feb, 22 2013 @ 09:53 AM
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While these numbers are posted elsewhere, a thread on the subject I think is needed


You need to rename this thread...

Meteor Watch 2013......

We have a watch page for everything else, why not join the club?

You are right though, everything on this page is elsewhere since I have read those statistics about 30 times already.....If you name it Meteor Watch, it's okay.....

Either way, thanks for starting another Meteor thread :bnghd: with a little fear-mongering included.....





posted on Feb, 22 2013 @ 09:54 AM
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As above so below.
Thats what they are not telling us. On or in.



posted on Feb, 22 2013 @ 09:59 AM
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Youtube is causing all the meteors!

So, when people saw "fireballs", not streaks in the sky before the last couple of years they weren't reported? Of course they were.

Fireballs have increased, the question is why, and anyone who would have you thinking fireballs have increased because of YouTube or iphones could be part of an extremely well co-ordinated agenda to keep the masses from learning "the why".



posted on Feb, 22 2013 @ 10:03 AM
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Originally posted by Chrisfishenstein

with a little fear-mongering included.....




Ya gotta add a little


But seriously, most people will be scared no matter what when talking about potential meteor impacts, even if done in a dry, uninteresting completely objective manner.

Its not a meteor watch thread though, but thats a good idea. I just want to explore if there could be an actual increase in meteor activity and the PTB know and are not saying. I think all things considered, its plausible.

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posted on Feb, 22 2013 @ 10:16 AM
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Thanks for the Doomporn it was a while since I got some. It is talked a lot about this interstellar cloud we are passing thru. I just follow the issue a bit but this cloud might be throwing these meteoroids towards the inner planets.
Just my guess.



posted on Feb, 22 2013 @ 10:16 AM
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Originally posted by alfa1

Originally posted by CaticusMaximus
The numbers of meteors being reported is up almost 600% since 2005 ...



What procedure did you use to decouple that increase with the increase of internet users in that timeframe?
And also, the expanding knowledge of the capabilities of the net (the increase in number of existing users who learn about the reporting website) for users already active in that timeframe?

In any case, I'd be more impressed if it could be shown that amateur astronomers interested in meteor sighting have also noticed an increase.



2220 / 463 = 4.80 x as many meteors in 2012 compared to 2005.
2.5B / 1B = 2.5 X as many internet users world wide in 2012 from 2005.

I'm still missing a cause of a doubling of reporting....

I agree with your last point. Tried looking a bit, but need better search terms to find that info.

I also seem to be unable to find site usage statistics.. That would help..

Sadly this site www.amsmeteors.org... doesn't show up on google analytics.
edit on 2/22/2013 by Dustytoad because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 22 2013 @ 10:26 AM
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We've had this discussion on ATS before (in fact many times - whenever ATS gets a hold of a few reports of fireballs), but one particular thread stands out. The author, apacheman, a self-proclaimed genius, posted RAW data just like you are doing here. The trouble with doing that is that no statistical analysis has been done which takes into account all the other factors that will affect the conclusion. Without having taken into account these factors the results/conclusion is almost bound to be misleading.

Here is my main reply which I posted in that thread:


Originally posted by C.H.U.D.

Originally posted by apacheman
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With all due respect, from where does your assertion derive? You cite no authority, so I assume that it is your opinion that it is a matter of more people watching.


I can understand your skepticism. It's not just my opinion, but my opinion based on over a decade of observing, studying, and talking with both amateur and professional researchers. The same opinion is also held by meteor scientists.


The next logical question is what is causing the apparent increase in fireballs
seen this month? The key word here is apparent. It could very well be that there is no increase at all, but rather a marked increase in the number of reported fireballs. Mr. Hankey
has worked with the AMS in providing an easy way to report fireball sightings
and the general public has responded with a record
number of reports so far in January. If you look through the last five years
that the AMS has available, you will see an increase in
every year. The increase is certainly not as dramatic as January 10 vs. January
11, but that again can be attributed to the recent
change in format. I am also confident that no matter the number of NEO's in
January 2012, there were still be more fireball reports
in January 12 vs. January 11.
Interesting subject and I appreciate the contributions of Dirk, Mike, Wayne, and
Carl!

Bob Lunsford

Source: click here

Bob Lunsford is the Operations Manager/Journal Editor of the AMS.



Most large fireballs are green. And it certainly is not clear to me that we
are seeing any statistically significant increase in fireball activity. Like
so much in nature, meteor frequencies are described by Poisson statistics,
and that means we'll naturally see periods of increased activity and periods
of decreased activity. Our brains want to connect this to something
physical, but I doubt anything is really there.

Chris


Source: click here

Chris L Peterson runs the Cloudbait Observatory which is a dedicated meteor camera observatory.



Originally posted by apacheman
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We aren't discussing an increase in reports, but rather an increase in incidents. Reports per incident have also increased, both due to more people watching, and the larger sizes impacting, creating more discernable fireballs.


Well the majority of fireballs and meteors are unseen by people - two thirds of Earth's surface is ocean, and much of the remainder is sparsely populated, plus many meteors are missed due to daylight, and the fact that most people are tucked up in bed during the best time to see them (night). Many are also hidden by the weather (clouds), and in today's society when people are outdoors they are usually busy rushing about and not concentrating on looking at the sky.

If most meteors are missed, then it follows that an increase in the number of people looking for them will result in an increase of meteors reported. You said yourself there are more reports per incident. That can only mean that more people are reporting them and/or looking for them. If there are more people reporting/looking for them then meteors and fireballs that were previously not witnessed/reported will start being reported, even if the rate of events remains constant.





Originally posted by apacheman
reply to post by C.H.U.D.
 


But don't just take my word for it: go look at the data you obviously haven't seen yet, or you'd know that what you've asserted is nonsense.


nonsense?

The only thing that makes no sense here is basing your speculation on raw fireball report data. There are factors you have to take into account, or the conclusion will be invalid.

You are assuming I have not looked at fireball data before, but I have, and I have also seen (with my own eyes) nothing of the increase in fireballs that you are suggesting in many 100s of hours spent observing the sky for meteors.

I am certainly not taking your word for it. My opinion is based on experience of the subject and observation over a fairly long period of time. Can you say the same?



posted on Feb, 22 2013 @ 10:28 AM
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I completely agree with your statement. Because we have become more spatially aware, so follows the increase in sightings. I mean look at the influx of Bigfoot related sightings since the advent of the portable cell camera/video recorder.



posted on Feb, 22 2013 @ 10:39 AM
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Originally posted by FireballStorm

The trouble with doing that is that no statistical analysis has been done which takes into account all the other factors that will affect the conclusion. Without having taken into account these factors the results/conclusion is almost bound to be misleading.


But there is no result or conclusion presented, just information and my own personal opinion and speculation about it. Its a question and open ended topic on a conspiracy based forum. Also as we are on a conspiracy forum, its not necessary that everything, or anything, be written as if it were going to be submitted to a scientific journal, and indeed it couldnt be written in the form you want anyway, because "all the other factors" are impossible to know with certainty. Many things have to be speculated on and assumed based on other assumptions (conspiracy forum remember).



posted on Feb, 22 2013 @ 10:47 AM
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Originally posted by CaticusMaximus
But there is no result or conclusion presented


That may be true, but people will look at the RAW data and draw their own conclusions based purely on the RAW data, so in my opinion it's important to point out that such conclusions are likely to be misleading.



posted on Feb, 22 2013 @ 10:48 AM
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I always get a kick out of D&G Doom & Gloom threads like this.

Here is how I see it. I do think there is a Global elite. But I doubt this consists of more than a few thousand (if thatmany people)

If say they all go underground in the ZOMBIE-ICEAGE-GLOBALWARMING-COMET-METEOR-BIOLOGICAL-NUCLEAR disaster event.

When they come back up who will clean, take out the garbage, fix the roads, and basically rebuild see BUILD civilization? Or they just go back to stone age?

Somehow I don't see Caveman Bill Gates

So that leaves 2 other scenarios either Millions and I MEAN MILLIONS! are in on this conspiracy which is incredibly implausible. As it would take thousands just to build the DUMBs (Which I know we have some but not as vast as to hold and staff MILLIONS...)

Or there will be a lottery and when the day comes you will be chosen because you are the best in your field or you get the lucky numbers...

The last seems plausible to me but really both fall apart at some point because I just don't think it is possible or plausible.

If anything it will be Caveman time again with those that are lucky to survive if any such event occurs.
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posted on Feb, 22 2013 @ 10:53 AM
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All I really want is for my family to be all together when it happens. I would almost welcome it compared to the world our kids have to grow up in. Alternative, is teach our children how to survive a corrupt Gov hell bent on killing us.



posted on Feb, 22 2013 @ 11:01 AM
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Youtube is causing all the meteors!


No, YouTube is causing people to think that lens flares are "Planet X."


So, when people saw "fireballs", not streaks in the sky before the last couple of years they weren't reported? Of course they were.


Usually, they were reported as UFOs. I predict this year will have more threads devoted to meteors and fewer to UFOs.


Fireballs have increased, the question is why, and anyone who would have you thinking fireballs have increased because of YouTube or iphones could be part of an extremely well co-ordinated agenda to keep the masses from learning "the why".


No-one, absolutely no-one, has claimed that "fireballs" have increased because of YouTube or i-phones. This is entirely a distortion, a deliberate misrepresentation, a strawman, you have created in pursuit of your own agenda. All anyone has said is that an increase in the number of reports about something does not necessarily mean that the number of actual occurrences has increased.



posted on Feb, 22 2013 @ 12:40 PM
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I thought there would be more interest in drastically increasing meteor sightings year over year.

To me the potential that we are moving through a much denser area of space and TPTB know it, are preparing, and keeping us in the dark, seems to be being brushed off a little too easily in favor of and solely due to "increased reporting" for a conspiracy site.

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posted on Feb, 22 2013 @ 12:40 PM
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Originally posted by InfaRedMan
There are more people and more resources dedicated to looking for them every year. The data does not necessarily mean that there are more pieces of rock & ice hurtling around our little neighbourhood.

IRM

so you are saying that more people are now looking up at the sky?

well now, just what would be causing them to do that, i wonder.

is there something that you know and are not sharing?




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