The Expansion of Black American Misery under Barack Obama's Watch

reply to post by DZAG Wright


I don't buy this at all. I hear this from Republicans about Bush and Democrats about Obama.

Presidents are not powerless and in saying that you just give their corruption and horrible policies and excuse. These President are corrupt Politicians and some of them support destructive policies that do damage.

To act like Obama can't do anything and he's just this blind politician that only has good intentions in his heart is silly.

Presidents do have power. Yes there's power behind them but many are corrupt Politicians not innocent bystanders.

Originally posted by neoholographic

Originally posted by jimmiec

Originally posted by neoholographic
reply to post by DZAG Wright

 

This here is the problem. The G.O.P. is no worse than the Democrats. They're 2 sides of the same corrupt coin. Under Bush, black unemployment was 9.4% and under Obama it has went as high as 16% while corporate profits are at historic highs.

The point is blacks need to go to the G.O.P. and work with them in places they agree and give them some votes. It's just silly and puts blacks in a powerless position when our community is just slaves to the Democrat Party.

When the Gays threatened to take support from Obama, he came out for Gay Marriage. When Hispanics threatened to take away support, Obama was on so many Spanish programs, I thought he was going to start speaking Spanish.

If blacks get a little wrestles, the Democrats just send out Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson to black Churches to round up the Negroes and this needs to stop.

You are my hero! You get it! All the politicians use the black vote by spewing empty promises. The black community has been abused this way so long that their culture reflects it. Negatively. There is only a difference in basic philosophy between the parties. Republicans believe in Constitutional government. Democrats ( Left leaning anyway) believe in big government to control everything. Republicans would actually be better for the black community because they desperately want their votes. If you research it, the Republicans have given more to the black community than Democrats in the last 25 years. I have black Republican friends that are doing quite well. Better than me actually.

BINGO!!

Both parties understand a NO VOTE. So if Blacks were to go to the G.O.P. in places they agree and give them votes, the G.O.P. would bend over backwards for votes and the Democrats couldn't take blacks for granted.

It's just basic common sense because both parties are 2 sides of the same corrupt coin.

GOP claim Libs are more herd mentality but in actuality THEY are. The GOP is intolerant of people who have different social views. You simply have to rewatch the conventions.

Saying this to say the GOP would never bend over backwards for the black vote, the racist who piggy back off the GOP would not allow it.

reply to post by neoholographic


Then I ask you, What can a President do to make our country better? What type of policy can they, without the backing of Congress pass?

Oh to get to the bottome of this, perhaps we first need to agree on WHAT can make this country begin to recover.

Such things as employers beginning to hire AND pay a wage you can take care of your family with.

reply to post by DZAG Wright


See, you're stuck that the Democrats are this Glorious party for blacks and the G.O.P. wants slavery and that's just silly.

Under Obama Black Unemployment went as high as 16% under Bush it dropped as low as 9.4%.

George W. Bush is laying a claim to be the President who did the best job creating jobs for blacks. Currently, black unemployment is 9.4%, which is significantly lower than the 10% it averaged in the Clinton years. The current rate is also much lower than the average black unemployment rate over the past 30 years, which is 12.4%.

Some on the left have complained that even if the black unemployment rate is dropping, there is still too great a gap between the unemployment rate for blacks and for whites.

If this complaint were sincere, those who made it should be pleased to learn the gap between black and white unemployment, which stands today at 4.9 points, is smaller than the 5.5-point average gap of the Clinton years and the 6.9-point average gap of the past 30 years.

www.humanevents.com...

I wasn't a fan of Bush either, but it's silly to suggest that the Democrats are this party that loves blacks and the G.O.P. wants to put us in slavery.

They're both corrupt so the smart thing to do is to play both sides.

reply to post by neoholographic


Why would Democrats actually try and help blacks? Makes no sense.. blacks vote 95%+ for Democrats. That means they don't need to think about blacks, help blacks, support black programs or create black job assistance .. nothing. Because they know blacks will vote for them no matter what. Hispanics on the other hand are up for grabs, and whites are split down the middle, even Asians are divided between the two parties. Blacks are Democrats, hook line and sinker.

It doesn't help that the Democrats preach Government subsistence as the major part of their platform that has been a big focused on the black community to get votes. We see Asians at 6% and Blacks at 25%, and that show us that Asians want to work while many blacks are convinced that the Government will take care of them.

I don't blame Obama so much as this has all become a cultural thing that he may support, but didn't create. We also need to look at the fact that the demographics of where blacks live is mainly in the big cities, and that in itself speaks volumes as to why they might be 25% unemployed. Being lower middle class or poor in a big city is a horrible life to live, nothing much good comes out of it.

reply to post by Bicent76


The majority of white people voted for him too. The majority of young people as well. It is quite irrelevant.

What I said obviously went over your head.

There are those that will put on the monkey suit and say a few lines that have been prepared for them because that's what they're supposed to do to get paid. Lots of air time or being endearing to the blind public does not make you a voice of truth or reason. It can make you decent firewood to fuel the old "black people doing it to themselves" fire, as your examples have shown. Do you see how this works?

Do you really think they are the voice of the people or that these personalities cares at all about the general state of the place they came from?

They have all the money in the world and white people love them. After going through what they did to get where they are, most will not be willing to give it all up for an idea, whether or not it is truth and they know it. People in the spotlight do not get there on their own due solely to training and dedication. They are compromised somewhere along the way. Entertainers are some of the most deluded disillusioned people on the planet.

There is a majority and an agenda. The darlings that are going to be picked are the ones who are willing to say what they want them to if they are going to be allowed on their show.

Can you understand this? Nobody is counting on Chris Rock to say anything of importance. You can't even expect anything amusing from him anymore. Referring to him and Jamie Foxx as black leaders is ridiculous. Is Terry Crews a "black leader" too?

Originally posted by DZAG Wright
reply to post by neoholographic

 

Then I ask you, What can a President do to make our country better? What type of policy can they, without the backing of Congress pass?

Of course they need Congress and they lead Congress to get things passed.

Obama did it with Obamacare and the Stimulus.

Clinton did it with Triangulation.

Bush did it with Iraq.

The point is, Presidents are not powerless bystanders. They're Politicians who sometimes have a corrupt agenda. Saying their powerless is just trying to give Obama an excuse for his horrible policies.

Originally posted by Rockpuck
reply to post by neoholographic

 

Why would Democrats actually try and help blacks? Makes no sense.. blacks vote 95%+ for Democrats. That means they don't need to think about blacks, help blacks, support black programs or create black job assistance .. nothing. Because they know blacks will vote for them no matter what. Hispanics on the other hand are up for grabs, and whites are split down the middle, even Asians are divided between the two parties. Blacks are Democrats, hook line and sinker.

Exactly and this is my point.

If Blacks threw 20% of that support behind the G.O.P. the Democrats would go nuts. This would be smart because when you walk in lock step behind either party you will just be an afterthought.

Originally posted by DZAG Wright
Oh to get to the bottome of this, perhaps we first need to agree on WHAT can make this country begin to recover.

Such things as employers beginning to hire AND pay a wage you can take care of your family with.

everybody go out and hire each other to do things for each other. trade and barter goods and services where possible.
shop at the local farmers market. buy from local want ads. go to garage sales. plant your own food. give to local soup kitchens and other community efforts to help local people. educate your community about community programs that are available to help them. hire the guy who rang your doorbell and asked if they could mow your yard. if you can't afford his price, haggle for a better price. get a car wash from the kids standing on the corner. see a shop owned by a local and it isn't a franchise chain shop, buy stuff from them instead, even if it means you will have less of something else, because supporting your local economy helps you and yours in the long run. create a corporation to property purchase, where you can raise some viable thing that benefits your community, like a greenhouse, hydroponic garden that can feed the poor. get tax breaks for it, hire locals to run it, etc.

surely we didn't become an independent and successful nation by letting everyone else do our jobs for us.

Originally posted by DZAG Wright
Oh to get to the bottome of this, perhaps we first need to agree on WHAT can make this country begin to recover.

Such things as employers beginning to hire AND pay a wage you can take care of your family with.

One of the main things we can do is stop flooding multi-nationals with cheap dollars. This is just redistributing wealth to the wealthy.

The thing is, we're in a global economy with cheap labor. So the economy needs to be driven by consumption until we find industries to replace the manufacturing jobs that were lost.

You do this by reducing the scope and size of Government. The American people can borrow and consume but the Government shouldn't waste and spend.

If you were going to do a stimulus you don't give it to companies like Solyndra. You don't try to build supply where there isn't any demand.

Instead of giving money to multi-nationals, you give it to state run banks and credit union with the stipulation that 85-90% goes to mortgages, business loans, private loans and more throughout local communities. This way you create demand in the economy and businesses will need to build up supply which will create jobs.

You can't have big government and Govt. control over the economy in a global economy with cheap labor.

Originally posted by neoholographic
reply to post by HelenConway

 

Obama inherited debt but he also added debt and misery with his horrible policies.

So yes you can blame Obama just like I blamed Bush for his out of control borrowing and spending. For some reason people act like Obama doesn't have to take responsibility for anything.

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OK fair enough - he is to blame ALSO, but what he is doing is what most Western economies are doing right now. Seems like there is a theme. Bilderberg anyone ???? Seriously - I think the world leaders plot and scheme together.

reply to post by LizardSlicks


you have completely missed the point I was making..


Just want to argue, and tell me what Me and countless others have pointed out, it does not take rocket science to figure out what I was explaining with my post, I will write this to make you feel better obviously blacks are not the only ones that worship Obama and his socialistic Utopia, that is magically paid for, you went far from above my head, you went under it with your ego.. Also trying to ratify and explain to me that black celebrates let themselves get mind screwed to be successful entertainers is an immature idea, because you have not discovered the rewards of hard work yet obviously, that is ridiculous.. Also you can win this argument I do not care, I will spare the rest of the group here on ATS, from reading this ignorant garbage.. Your right man, I have absolutely no idea what I was proving even after i proved it..



Thank you sir, for lowering my standards for humans even lower...



another idiot feeding the gene pool.

reply to post by Bicent76


You lack critical thinking, a view of the whole picture, and are nearly illiterate. You haven't even put together an argument of any kind, yet you are confident to end your post referring to me as "another idiot feeding the gene pool"?

You live in a fantasy world. People descend into these when they're unhappy with themselves and are privileged enough to to be so sheltered.

reply to post by lnfideI

I know I'm the only one on the North American continent that does not care.

Guaranteed I am the only one on ATS today that does not care.

Then leave this thread. No one wants to hear some low IQ racist ramble on and contribute nothing to this topic.

reply to post by Bicent76

The Majority of Black America, that represent black people in our political system, voted for Barrack Obama...

And? Voting for someone does not mean you worship them. Black people vote mostly democrat regardless of the democrats race.

Did all the white men that voted for Romney worship him?

Also Jamie Fox, and Chris Rock, whether you can understand it or not are Black leaders.....

Uh, no they aren't. They are black entertainers. Is Will Ferrel a white leader? You make no sense at all.

I am guessing your not American...

I'm guessing you don't know very many black people.

reply to post by neoholographic


Misery?

Seriously? We are not going through misery in the united states. Come on.

Congolese people in a civil war are going through misery.
Rwanda?
Venezuelans under chavez?
Chinese,Filipino,Sudanese(religious purges),north koreans(loony tunes government) are going through "misery".

reply to post by neoholographic


Income Inequality is a Progressive buzz term for marxist redistributionist policies of taking from the rich and giving to the poor. Sorry but that's what it really is.

Still the Middle Class is suffering even more as the ultra wealthy elites have their money in tax shelters, which of course Warren Buffett knew when he supported the "tax me bro" agenda of the Progressives. The Progressive income tax is and always has been a tool of Marixst redistribution of wealth. Originally it was to eradicate the growth of the Bourgeois merchants, but now it is merely to grow govt bigger and bigger and give Unions more power.

Originally posted by John_Rodger_Cornman
reply to post by neoholographic

 

Misery?

Seriously? We are not going through misery in the united states. Come on.

Congolese people in a civil war are going through misery.
Rwanda?
Venezuelans under chavez?
Chinese,Filipino,Sudanese(religious purges),north koreans(loony tunes government) are going through "misery".

oh cmon. More Americans are on food stamps than ever before. American manufacturing jobs are going overseas to Chinese, etc. It's time to get rid of this nasty big government trend and to stop worrying about taking care of people in other countries. We can't afford to borrow half of every dollar to donate to people overseas so they can develop. Enough already.

It doesn't look like President Obama will be able to shed his reputation as the food stamp president any time soon. According to new data from the USDA, the number of people on food stamps has hit another all time high of 47,710,324 which is up by 600,000 from August. To be fair, this number is a bit distorted due to disaster relief from Hurricane Sandy.

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