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This site is a discussion site who's theme is 'deny ignorance', to me, that means point to the truth.
When someone is believing a lie it is hard to get them to see it. It can be a battle of truth over delusion.
Beliefs are believed and are hard to shift. Firstly, beliefs have to been understood to be not truth.
Not "lies" but "FORM". "LIES" are light too, but only existent in the mind. FORM is REALITY, TRUTH, what is SHOWN -LIGHT. and the darkness gives rise to it all.
Darkness is Equality as there is no comparison of "this" versus "that" (Light - FORMS).
It is in the light that judgements and ego (superiority mentality) tends to happen...
Speaking in normal everyday terms:
It is people who are attached to and associate themselves with "Things" (Form - Matter - Light) , that tends to be more judgmental and egotistical - believing themselves to be better than another due to their identification with a quality or thing, or by putting others down by comparing "this one" to "that one".
Originally posted by AthlonSavage
You never run away and hide itsnowagain you defend your ground to the end. I respect that because it shows maturity.
Someothers who will remain nameless will run and hide when their arguments/beliefs come under strong challenge,
I am defending my ground to the end to. Nothing is gonna make me go to the light. I am staying in the darkness with the original source and away from these egotistical light beings wanting to control everything and everyone.
When the light rules, there will be control and everyone will be watched and living under a false mask of collectivism...
When the darkness rules, there will be pure freedom, more individuality, more creativity...
I know you may say even this is just a preference, but so what, I am aware that it is a preference and I am sticking with it. I am staying with the darkness and I will continue speaking TRUTH whether others listen or not.
The Darkness is Truth, The Light is when everyone is being controlled (not being themselves). People are scared to walk into the darkness to see what hidden forms may become clear there, so they stay in the comfort of the light.
Satan is anything named but naming (the word) is the beginning of the battle.
Prior to any concept there is harmony.
The words lead to ideas and opinions and conflict and battles and war.
Naming is deception, each can take a side and the battle commences.
Prior to concepts there is harmony.
Originally posted by AthlonSavage
reply to post by Itisnowagain
Satan is anything named but naming (the word) is the beginning of the battle.
Prior to any concept there is harmony.
The words lead to ideas and opinions and conflict and battles and war.
Naming is deception, each can take a side and the battle commences.
Prior to concepts there is harmony.
Look at Satan like this, the one who lurkers in dark, and injects falseness into the forms illuminated in the light.
Form (Light) consists of mostly empty space whether you accept it or not.
Even the light of the sun is contained in darkness (of the universe).
That is what concepts do. Ideas and beliefs made of no more than assumptions all come from words - from naming. Without any words there would only ever be just this.
This is what there is really but words make a pretend world possible. The person who lives in the pretend world suffers. The pretend person living in a pretend world is oneness dreaming separation.
Originally posted by AthlonSavage
reply to post by Itisnowagain
That is what concepts do. Ideas and beliefs made of no more than assumptions all come from words - from naming. Without any words there would only ever be just this.
This is what there is really but words make a pretend world possible. The person who lives in the pretend world suffers. The pretend person living in a pretend world is oneness dreaming separation.
There are real forces out there trying to manipulate us, and there resides an intelligence behind them. I have been trying to make a point in this thread that Evil will try and encourage childish idealisms in humans for the sole purpose of bring about confusion and contradictions of mind.
The only enemy is believing ideas without investigation. Who's ideas are they anyway?
The only life you will know is your direct experience, if life feels good and it flows and it is an enjoyable ride then 'evil' doesn't really come into the picture.
Originally posted by AthlonSavage
Evil only triumphs when good men/woman stand by and do nothing. Denounce False Gods Itsnowagain, they are on Ats as well.
Is that a command? You are really showing your true colors now aren't you?
The only false "Gods" here are those serving that which arises and disappear (Light) - the gods of serving illusion (maya - arising and disappearing light).
The only illusion is the light. You can not be (or hold on to forever) that which is being watched to arise and disappear.
Anyone with compassion will agree with Equality, they may not understand it from darkness perspective, but they will still value it.
Serving self above others will be experienced in time to have some goodness, as always putting others before yourself can cause other to take advantage and control.
Having "unconditional" stems from darkness as it is still and constant. "conditional" stems from light as it arises and appears - which is how light is undependable and false hope to chase after and claim to be.
Ignorance is wise, once you realize that it all stems from darkness and is just appearing. Allowing the mind to be open for new appearances (information) is indeed wise.
Nature is duality, but its source is not. Emptiness (darkness) gave rise to it all, but in the human mind lies are told, reality is truth. Light is truth (reality) and lies (light of mind). It is duality. Emptiness (darkness) is the Source - the originator of it all
The conceptual mind IS indeed the source of lacking/unhappiness. It is concepts which allow you to drag past experiences into the present. Without conceptual thinking, we can stay with the inner calmness present now without visualizing of a "past" or "future".